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Here are the additions to my Bronco that make it a much more compacted and organized rig for rolling down the road with only the wind to guide me. The interior is a work in progress but the jack storage has been the best thing I could have done to the layout of my BKO it's tucked away neatly remains clean and dry ready for use at all times. If your going to play off the beaten path then a good winch bumper and a set of sliders had better be on your list of high priorities if you want to maintain a good looking vehicle.

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Great Threads Huggy.

Do you have any updates on the Seats and Storage thread? All the other threads looked pretty well completed but that one was still a work in progress.

Thanks for the input. I think this is going to turn into a really great sticky.

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Interior is on the back burner and almost off the stove. I have some aggressive goals so the mechanical things are top priority followed by recovery and protection when I started the interior I didn't realize all the other things I wanted to do. I will update as I move forward but I'm just sharing my thoughts as they may help someone else here get their direction.


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Got one of these for my weekend camping trips. With my camping gear in 2 big storage boxes, strapped down the cargo area was all empty, except for fire wood.


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A hitch hauler is certainly useful, and I use the hell outta mine, but I don't think I'd take it on an expedition or adventure off-road. It kills departure angle, and whatever is on it blocks the tire carrier & t/g. A trailer is more suited to the task, if you're hauling more than the Bronco itself can handle.
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Yea, it did scrape on the driveway but I was going into an established campground with pavel roads. Mine did not block the tire carrier, and the TG would of be fine if not for the latch. For on the freeway and pavel roads, they are excellent.

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Yea, it did scrape on the driveway but I was going into an established campground with pavel roads. Mine did not block the tire carrier, and the TG would of be fine if not for the latch. For on the freeway and pavel roads, they are excellent.
I might try to attach it to the tire carrier for better ground clearance. But it would have to be removable.

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I'm not talking about the hauler blocking the t/g & spare; I'm talking about whatever you put ON the hauler.



And this thread isn't really about paved roads & established campgrounds.
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I would think it wouldn't be too hard to come up with an adapter that could be placed on the lugs of the tire carrier with a square bar stock that would function as a trailer hitch point. That would allow you to install the carrier onto the spare tire rack and still carry the spare. You would have to install longer studs so you could sandwich the adapter between the tire and rack, allowing the wheel to aid in distribution of forces on the rack.

The limitation I see would be, just how much could you actually safely carry on the rack with the already added weight of the carrier? I have no idea how much weight the rack can actually hold total.

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I'm not talking about the hauler blocking the t/g & spare; I'm talking about whatever you put ON the hauler.



And this thread isn't really about paved roads & established campgrounds.
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I would think it wouldn't be too hard to come up with an adapter that could be placed on the lugs of the tire carrier with a square bar stock that would function as a trailer hitch point. That would allow you to install the carrier onto the spare tire rack and still carry the spare. You would have to install longer studs so you could sandwich the adapter between the tire and rack, allowing the wheel to aid in distribution of forces on the rack.

The limitation I see would be, just how much could you actually safely carry on the rack with the already added weight of the carrier? I have no idea how much weight the rack can actually hold total.
Good idea, but the lugs on the rack are not in the middle of the the rear.

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Center Console Control Panel

Just thought I'd add my little thread on building a simple and easy center console with it eaqualy easy to make control panel. So far, I've only mounted light switches for my grill lights and the reverse light I mounted on the spare tire swing arm.
It should be good for other options, like in cab winch controls, outlets, and of course, other lights.

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My hitch hauler goes with me every time I hunt. It carries my gas cans, cooler, and 7gal jerry can. Ive scraped mine to the point that the back two square tube supports are sticking straight out and now are caution tape holders to keep tailgaters at bay. Now that I have a spare topper its time to think up a good unistrut rack for it. Dr jekyll may be taking a back burner job soon though.

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...install the carrier onto the spare tire rack and still carry the spare.
That's like putting an engine hoist on the antenna.
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Well, that's another way of putting it I guess. I've read a few things on here where people wonder about how large of a tire/wheel they could put on it and other discussions on how much weight it would or wouldn't hold. It invariable comes down to those who say you can't put more than the aluminum 235 on it and others who swear they can hand their Bronco from a tree by it......

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Expeditionary Bumpers

Thought I would add this to talk a little about bumpers and what went into deciding on the bumper John (triplesix) fabbed for me.

After looking at quite a few bumpers and trying to decide what I liked or didn't like I decided that I wanted these things;

1. I wanted a stout bumper that would be able to push things out of the way when required.

2. It needed to be as light weight as possible given all the things I wanted it to have.

3. I wanted to keep an equal or better departure angle over the stock bumper.

4. It had to be able to accommodate at least a 12K Winch.

5. I also wanted strong anchor/recovery points for pulling, snatching, towing, etc.

6. I live in a heavily wooded and underbrush area so I also thought it would
be good to have some stout brush bars for keeping limbs and other objects
from cracking the light housings and spearing the radiator.

7.I also thought it would be beneficial to have a front receiver for situations
where I could add any receiver mounted accessories to the front and also
use it to be able to move trailers and such with the articulation of front steering like a forklift.


These were all things that I considered based on where I live and what I wanted and I am sure as time goes by that I will discover other options I would have liked or find that some of the options I added were not very useful after all. But this was the criteria I gave to John and I have to say I was truly impressed with the bumper he designed and fabbed based on the criteria I gave him. A little shout out and props to John for making what I think was a pretty badass bumper.

I am still in the thinking and planning stages for my rear bumper so any thoughts you all may have on that would be greatly appreciated.

In addition I welcome any feedback on my front bumper as well.
Things I could have or should have done or things you think were unnecessary or I should have done differently.

Hopefully this will give others who are yet to decide on Bumpers some options they have to consider.





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Very nice. Thanks

What's the total weight of that bumper as it sits now?

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Very nice. Thanks

What's the total weight of that bumper as it sits now?

Of course you would ask that question!

I am not sure as I forgot to weigh it when I had it off to paint.

I am guessing it to weigh 3-4 times what my stock bumper weighed.
Probably between 70-90lbs??

One man can lift it and carry it around but it took two of us to wrangle it in place to mount it.

Not sure if John has the weight on it or not, I am sure he has the weight of similar ones if he doesn't have mine.

It was not heavy enough though to cause any drop on my front end, measurably anyway.

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Well That's good. When I think of rigging and modding a vehicle for Expo, I consider weight to be important. Better fuel economy and less to have to get through potentially impassable areas. But, then there is a line between heavy and sturdy and reliable. I just don't know where that is yet.

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...front steering like a forklift...
Almost every forklift I've seen is rear-steer ; Broncos have front steering.
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...equal or better departure angle over the stock bumper.
Departure only applies to the REAR bumper , and even if the bumper & shackles didn't, I'm pretty sure that receiver has reduced the approach angle from where it would be on a stock front bumper.

I've been backing trailers since before I was street-legal, so I've never considered a front receiver necessary. But on my new bumper, I have 2, just because they'll make everything else easier: recovery points, front hitch (just in case), snow plow (again: IF), tow bar, or almost anything I ever come up with. I don't plan to mount lights on it, but there are several spots, and it also has a touch of factory styling. Another major consideration for me is that there be NO modifications to the truck to fit the bumper, but it still has to be attached strong enough for impacts without affecting the crumple zones/SRS. How does yours attach, buff? Like the previous bumper, my new one also has storage (why don't more bumpers have that???), and the grille guard will fold down (both for access to the truck, and for hauling). But this time, I have a grille ornament that's actually strong enough to literally stamp FORD on someone's ass.

Even though this one will probably be slightly heavier, there's still no dead weight in it, so I can accept whatever it does to the fuel economy , knowing that I can knock down trees, crack rocks, & push dirt, bounce Priuses, and skew compasses. Its CG is below the truck's CG, so it's actually helping the stability.

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Almost every forklift I've seen is rear-steer ; Broncos have front steering. Departure only applies to the REAR bumper , and even if the bumper & shackles didn't, I'm pretty sure that receiver has reduced the approach angle from where it would be on a stock front bumper.

I've been backing trailers since before I was street-legal, so I've never considered a front receiver necessary. But on my new bumper, I have 2, just because they'll make everything else easier: recovery points, front hitch (just in case), snow plow (again: IF), tow bar, or almost anything I ever come up with. I don't plan to mount lights on it, but there are several spots, and it also has a touch of factory styling. Another major consideration for me is that there be NO modifications to the truck to fit the bumper, but it still has to be attached strong enough for impacts without affecting the crumple zones/SRS. How does yours attach, buff? Like the previous bumper, my new one also has storage (why don't more bumpers have that???), and the grille guard will fold down (both for access to the truck, and for hauling). But this time, I have a grille ornament that's actually strong enough to literally stamp FORD on someone's ass.

Even though this one will probably be slightly heavier, there's still no dead weight in it, so I can accept whatever it does to the fuel economy , knowing that I can knock down trees, crack rocks, & push dirt, bounce Priuses, and skew compasses. Its CG is below the truck's CG, so it's actually helping the stability.

BTW John
That "line" is called "finite-element analysis". Ford was the first automaker to use it on a production vehicle!


Knew you, of all people would catch any misstatements I made.

Yeah, I suppose I should have said approach angle, or I should have just lied and said I go everywhere in reverse.

As for the forklift comment, you are correct, they steer like a boat.
I was just trying to think of a way to explain the more articulated steering of the front mount receiver. It wasn't the major factor in wanting the receiver added but I wanted to try to illustrate all the advantages in case that may be something useful for someone else to consider.

As for your idea of having storage bins built into your bumper I love that idea.
If I had the welding equipment and the talent I would have done the same but since I was having to pay someone else to do my fab work I can only get so much. I will have to suggest the storage idea to John though. He is always looking at ways to improve his designs. I also like how you added touches of factory to your bumper build, definitely got cool points for that.

Weight wasn't a big consideration honestly, with all the features it's just flat out going to be heavy, I just didn't want to add any weight that didn't serve some purpose.

It uses the same mounting points as the stock bumper, I'm not sure what you were driving at Steve?

I do plan to add some LED light bars, two inset on the angled edges of the left and right end sections of the bumper and a 18-24" ? Bar in front of the winch or over it pointed straight forward. Figure this will give me a wide light array to light up the area in front of and just off side the truck.

I also plan to get one of those license plate holder/steps as a cover for the fair lead. I like having something I can stand on to reach into the engine bay when necessary. Although for me it's just to fool people into thinking I might actually know what I am looking at.

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