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Drug Smuggling 101- AKA Bead Balancing Tires

as most of you know, there are many options available out there to balance tires. there is the traditional stick on weights, high priced equal powder, and even cheap ass solutions like golf balls and BBs. personally, i am a cheap ass and i am tired of ripping off weights on the trail so i decided to try something different. one thing that most people dont take into consideration is that when aired down on high traction surfaces like rock the tires actually spin a little bit on the rim (this is why drag racers use rim screws) so stationary weights like the stick on kind become useless when one or more tires spins on the rim and the weights are no longer in the correct spot to balance everything.

- golf balls were a no for me, since they eventually wear out from all the rubbing inside the tire and then turn into big globs of crap that dont roll and just heat up the tires.

- BBs were a no since i dont like the idea of tiny metal balls that can rust zinging around my expensive tires wearing them out from the inside out.

so after reading a couple threads on pirate, i decided to go with 6mm plastic BBs. these are the ones that those $20 walmart pellet guns shoot aka Airsoft guns. there are several different sizes, but i chose the .12g ones because i could get a box of 10,000 of them for cheap.

now, there is a little bit of math involved here, you will need to find out how much to put in each tire. so going off the chart found here:
http://www.innovativebalancing.com/BigTirechart.htm
i decided on roughly 10 ounces per tire.

some math:
10,000 bbs / 4 tires = 2500 bbs per tire
.12g x 2500 = 300 grams
10 ounces x 28.3 grams (per ounce) = 283 grams per tire
as you can see, it takes roughly 2500 bbs per tire, but it will vary from tire to tire. i put in about 10.7 ounces since my tires run slightly larger than most 37s.

start by dividing the ecstasy pills, i mean bbs into 4 equal quantities

jack the bronco up and start taking off tires

once the tires are off, pull the valve stems...

and pry off the stick on weights (if you have any)

now you will need a trailer hitch and a hi lift, stick the hi lift in the hitch and the foot as close to the bead as possible. make sure the valve stem is 180* away, or you could rip it.

start jacking it, the bead will begin to come off

when the jack begins to get stubborn you can either rotate the tire and jack it in a different spot or jump on it till it unseats fully. (at 170 dripping wet, it doesn't always work for me)

now pop the drugs i mean bbs into the bead area and push them thru.

all you need to do now is take the tire to a gas station or something and pump it full of air to reseat the bead. WD40 around the bead will make it a little easier to go on.

you are now ready to smuggle drugs with nicely balanced tires wherever you please

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sweet, doin the same thing monday for my tires...but my pellets are .23 gram each, ill be putting about 1250 pellets per (8 oz ish).
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I want to do the same thing. Just 128 bolts are holding me back.

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kinda funny you're putting in a bunch of "little blue pills"...anyways

are they big enough to come out of the valve stem? otherwise, great idea, and much cheaper than ceramic beads, although not near as dense, but should keep heat down, and wont rust like BB's

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Holy $hit
Please dont tell me you used wd40 on your tires to seatthe bead The wd40 will brake down the rubber and distroy the bead. Plus it dosen't go away after you set the bead and it will make it a lot easer for the tire to spin in the rim.... (I had a realy bad experance with that and a steep hill )
when you want to lub a bead to set it use dish soap it won't hurt the rubber and when the tire seats it presses it out (its not penitrating like wd40)
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Give us a follow up on how it does on the road, city and highway, pls sir.



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Please dont tell me you used wd40 on your tires to seatthe bead The wd40 will brake down the rubber and distroy the bead. Plus it dosen't go away after you set the bead and it will make it a lot easer for the tire to spin in the rim.... (I had a realy bad experance with that and a steep hill )
when you want to lub a bead to set it use dish soap it won't hurt the rubber and when the tire seats it presses it out (its not penitrating like wd40)
dish soap lingers and when wet (ie snow runs) it doesnt do so well. last i checked, WD40 is petroleum based just like rubber. me and buddies have been using it for a long time with no ill effects.
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Give us a follow up on how it does on the road, city and highway, pls sir.
took it for a quick spin, fine in town. once i get above 60 i get some vibrations, but those were there before. i think i chipped a drum on the con or something

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are they big enough to come out of the valve stem?
no
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otherwise, great idea, and much cheaper than ceramic beads, although not near as dense, but should keep heat down, and wont rust like BB's
IMO all that matters is the total weight of what you put in there. look at equal, that stuff is about the same grit as sand, and it works great for balancing.

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dish soap lingers and when wet (ie snow runs) it doesnt do so well. last i checked, WD40 is petroleum based just like rubber. me and buddies have been using it for a long time with no ill effects.

took it for a quick spin, fine in town. once i get above 60 i get some vibrations, but those were there before. i think i chipped a drum on the con or something
I worked in tire shops almost 10 years (good year firestone) always been told not to use petroleum products on tires that it worked like a mild solvent(arn't most solvints petroleum based) and slowly broke down the the rubber on the bead. Plus as any petroleum lubracant it's made to well reduce the friction betwean two surfasas. I had a customers car not stop when she hit the brakes on a hill becuse the other tire guy used bearing greese to lub the bead (i know its not wd40) not trieng to be a smart a$$ and I'm sure the wd40 thing works but i think soap would be a better altunitive..
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In my experience, no matter what, a little bit of lube helps the rubber slide in better. But you dont want the rubber to break down that's never a good thing

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all you need to do now is take the tire to a gas station or something and pump it full of air to reseat the bead. WD40 around the bead will make it a little easier to go on.
Or you can get your favorite flamable substance, spray in the tire, make a line away from the tire, and light it! Don't think the little BB'swould like that, though
Anyways, good writeup.

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Or you can get your favorite flamable substance, spray in the tire, make a line away from the tire, and light it! Don't think the little BB'swould like that, though
Anyways, good writeup.
i wouldn't try that. IMO thats only a last resort for the trail.

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Good write up. Did you count out all of those bb's by hand??

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We used to use WD40 when putting on new grips on our bikes/motorcycles they slide on real nice and then stick real good...never had a problem with those slipping off.

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Good write up. Did you count out all of those bb's by hand??
no i found 4 same sized cups and filled them, just so happened when all 4 cups were equal there was only like 10 bbs left over. thats close enough for me

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Great idea Andy.

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Great idea Andy.

But, the drug dogs will still be able to sniff out your stash!
not if u put a a good amount of almorol(sp) on ur tires

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did you get any vibration before 60 before you switched to the blue bb's? obviously, they're plastic/rubber; any noises involved?

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At slow speeds is there any noise? I have those Centramatic balancers and from 0-30ish it sounded like a hula hoop with bbs it in (Swishing noise) Annoying! Expensive too!



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