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Me and my girlfriend have a 1989 Bronco that we have used as a daily driver for about six years. We live in Norway where there is a lot of road salting, so it has now been put in storage.
This summer we're building a workshop at home so we can begin the restoration.
We have a $35.000 budget for restoring and equipping it for overlanding. The plan is to go to Iceland in 2019 for overlanding and camping.



The overall plan for now is this:
EDITED! Im dumb and realize Im not putting a chevy engine in my Ford!
- Engine Factory 302 EFI http://www.fordcobraengines.com/prod...que-efi-truck/
- Gearstar E4OD http://gearstar.net/transmissions/fo...nverter.72.c16
- Atlas II transfer case.
- 4" Lift assembled from several products, camburg, james duff, ruffstuff.
- Upgrade the TTB, D50 third member, new axles. http://shop.broncograveyard.com/RCV-...uctinfo/32030/
- Rebuild and vastly upgrade the 8.8. Full-float kit, disc brakes, ARB locker, chromoly axles, new ring & pinion.
- Reinforce the frame against twisting. (Info?)
- Rock sliders.
- 35" mud-terrain, not decided on brand yet or if we want bead locks or not.
- Winch. Thinking 10.000 lbs Warn.
- Offroad bumpers.
- Off-frame restoration, strip body, paint it, sound proof it, new doors and windows.
- New lights and decals.
- Roof rack with tent (CVT) and awning.
- Different spare wheel holder and fuel-can/equipment holder.
- Goosegear storage solutions with cooler and kitchen, drawer pull-out. We'll fit this to a plate so it can be taken in and out easily.

We're keeping the interior the way it is, nice and red and original.
Research has just begun and in Norway one has to go through a difficult process of applying the road authorities before making changes on ones vehicle.

Ill try to keep you posted as the workshop comes to life and the restoration work begins.

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Yo BadNews,
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Your Bronco must be a rare sight in Norway. Where are you located? Back in the early 80's I partricipated in some NATO exercises in Norway. We flew out of Bodo and Andoya. Beautiful country. Sounds like a great build coming up. Welcome!

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Thank you! Already loving it!

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Yo BadNews,
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fyi;
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Hey! Thank you for a warm welcome! Looking forward to reading about other builds and getting inspiration!
The garage / workshop will be built during 2017, so the actual building of the car wont be started until early 2018, Ill keep you guys posted.

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Your Bronco must be a rare sight in Norway. Where are you located? Back in the early 80's I partricipated in some NATO exercises in Norway. We flew out of Bodo and Andoya. Beautiful country. Sounds like a great build coming up. Welcome!
We are about an hour out of Oslo, to the south. Hoping to see more of our own country throughout the years to come, as well as other countries and trails =D
Old American cars are very popular in Norway. We have tons of 60's and 70's pony cars, sedans. 80's and 90's SUV's are also fairly common, but mostly chevrolet due to a strong GM agent in Norway at the time.

I do however think there is only one other Bronco in my city though we have around 25000 inhabitants.
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Welcome! Sounds like a great plan and should be a good trip. I like everything you said except the LS part. Luckily I didn't stop reading. Yes they are a good engine but so is a nicely built 5.8. I'm thinking you can build a nice Windsor for less money than swapping in a chevy.
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welcome..looks like a really clean rig. Was it in Europe originally or did you import?
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Welcome!

Chevy sucks! But I can see why you want an LS, their cheap and readily available everywhere.

Since you said there are a lot of Chevies there, look for a rear axle from a 3/4 or 1 ton. Should be a 14 bolt corporate axle. It's a very stout axle. Unfortunately, you will need a Ford front axle, Dana 60, to upgrade your front ttb. The reason for this is the transfer case drops on different sides depending on Ford or Chevy, and the differential must be offset to match.

Good luck with the build!
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welcome..looks like a really clean rig. Was it in Europe originally or did you import?
This was bought new in Norway in '91 even though it is a '89. Its been running in a part of the country that doesnt see much road salt, so its practically rust-free.

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Chevy sucks! But I can see why you want an LS, their cheap and readily available everywhere.

Since you said there are a lot of Chevies there, look for a rear axle from a 3/4 or 1 ton. Should be a 14 bolt corporate axle. It's a very stout axle. Unfortunately, you will need a Ford front axle, Dana 60, to upgrade your front ttb. The reason for this is the transfer case drops on different sides depending on Ford or Chevy, and the differential must be offset to match.

Good luck with the build!
Thanks for the welcome =)

I never realized Ford and Chevy are offset to each side, thanks for making me aware of that. Its somewhat complicated for me living here though...

Im going to make a play for a SAS, but its almost doomed to not pass approval by the road authorities. Ive done some research, but I think the only way to do it is to pour my hard-earned cash into the TTB =S
Ive even looked at getting a 78-79 Bronco as a chassis donor so I can get the front axle approved by putting the 89 body on the 78 chassis, but that would make the approval of the other mods even more difficult.
For the rear: Not getting a used axle here, still recommend something else then a purpose-built 9"? I was planning on having one built for the truck in the US and shipping it here.

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Welcome! P.s., if you want you can start a pseudo build thread in the noon section to start

To try to answer your axle question, with your RABS system, you should prob stay with the 8.8 rear, or if you want an upgrade (what it seems you're looking for) you can go for a Sterling 10.25, but a Ch*vy axle will not play well with the ABS

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Honestly a nine inch Ford is weaker than the 8.8 in stock form, or they would have stayed with the 9".

What's wrong with a used axle? Rebuild it and it's good as new. Plus it'll be much cheaper and stronger than a 'new' 9" Ford.

For the front, the ttb can be beefed up, many companies in California do cut and turn beams, along with crazy suspension tricks. But expect to pay for it.
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This has the promise to be a fantastic thread! I'm looking forward to it.

I know of at least one other Bronco fanatic in Norway. He's a pretty awesome dude as well.
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Honestly a nine inch Ford is weaker than the 8.8 in stock form, or they would have stayed with the 9".

What's wrong with a used axle? Rebuild it and it's good as new. Plus it'll be much cheaper and stronger than a 'new' 9" Ford.

For the front, the ttb can be beefed up, many companies in California do cut and turn beams, along with crazy suspension tricks. But expect to pay for it.
Im talking about a purpouse-built 9"... Still weak you think?
There are quite a few Excursions in Norway and some F250, mostly 1995 - 2005... they have the Sterling axle... Perhaps I should look into that...
Lets pretend I could get it approved by road authorities, would I be able to use both the front and rear axles from say a 2000 F250?

One thing is the suspension arms for the TTB, Im more worried about the housing and axles...

The more I work on this, the more I realize I need to do extensive research when it comes to axles and drivetrain =)
I thought I knew something, apparently I dont =D
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No a 9" isn't weak, I've just rarely heard of someone going from 8.8 to 9. I would do the sterling and d60 from 89-97, then superduty axles, then a "purpose built" 9".

I'm taking this stance because a custom or aftermarket 9" Ford is crazy expensive for an axle that is still weaker than a $250 sterling 10.25. Put less than half the cost of that custom 9" into a locker and chromo shafts for a sterling and be miles ahead.

I guess I just don't understand why you can put a 9" under the Bronco, but yet have problems with the government not allowing a sterling.

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No a 9" isn't weak, I've just rarely heard of someone going from 8.8 to 9. I would do the sterling and d60 from 89-97, then superduty axles, then a "purpose built" 9".

I'm taking this stance because a custom or aftermarket 9" Ford is crazy expensive for an axle that is still weaker than a $250 sterling 10.25. Put less than half the cost of that custom 9" into a locker and chromo shafts for a sterling and be miles ahead.

I guess I just don't understand why you can put a 9" under the Bronco, but yet have problems with the government not allowing a sterling.
Hey - late reply...
This is very useful information for me, thank you!
Im going to check if there are any good shops in Norway that can help rebuild a sterling if I get a used one.

When it comes to approval of roadworthiness, Im sure Ill get the Sterling approved, its the front that Im worried about. I dont think they will OK a SAS in the front.
Ive looked at upgrading the TTB with a new center, some good guides on this forum.
Suppose Ill apply for a SAS, if thats declined, Ill beef up the TTB...

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If you search my threads, I've got a sterling rebuild in there somewhere.

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