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I recently purchased an 80 Bronco with a 302. The engine came from a 88 F150 that was converted to carb. My question is will the HEI distributor in the link below work. I spoke to the guy at KMJ and he said i might have a problem with the Oil pump shaft getting in the way since the block was from an 88.

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I guess I should rephrase the question. Will a 80 distributor work on an 88 block? I've heard the oil pump shaft will get in the way.
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the oil pump shaft and block have been the same since their inception in 1962 all the way to 2001 so I don't see why it would be any different from an 80 to an 88 I usually have interference with the thermostat housing. I do not like these much ( I have 2 of them) If you have the parts, time, or money I highly recommend the duraspark II ignition system.


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I was always taught u got to lube it up before you stick it in. My friends said the teacher yesterday said that too.
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I tried one of those cheap HEI distributors, but ran into problems with the machine tolerance of the parts, so I went with stock Duraspark and it is good. I was raised on HEI, so I wanted to go with it for my 351w, but I was too cheap to buy one that had decent quality. The one I bought off ebay first would not drop down far enough to engage the oil pump drive, then the replacement drive gear was would not fit onto the distributor shaft. To his credit, the seller refunded my money without delays.

If you google HEI vs Duraspark you will find that all those long cable harnesses from ford actually help isolate electromagnetic interference and allow better cooling. Now I am happy with my stock ignition.

If you are in Austin, Texas, I can help you troubleshoot your stock ignition and get it going for cheap. Stock parts are so cheap that an entire new disrtibutor is less than $50. I learned this after I spent $40 on just the vacuum advance.



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Thanks for the help you guys. Hopefully ill have good news in about a week or so when i finally hear the bronco fire up for the first time.
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Any assistance you are willing to offer would be great. As of right now the truck doesnt have an ignition system at all(distributor, wires, or plugs). I should be getting them in the next week or so.
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After some trouble shooting it looks like the distributor i need has a 6 prong plug but the 80 bronco only has a round 3 prong plug. If i were to buy a pig tail for the TFI module are there any prongs i will not need?? Where do i need to put the three wires coming out of the old plug into the new pigtail??

heres the link to the diagram for the TFI

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Are you going to be fuel injecting it? Running a computer? A TPS? If not how are you going to control your timing curve? because a TFI distributor runs a locked timing and the computer advances the timing depending on RPM and load. I suggest once again you use the right distributor for the truck.



Cardone Distributor $49.99 @ advance auto parts.
Part No. 30-2831 Warranty
Reman.; w/o Governor w/Single Vacuum w/Steel Gear; Cast Iron and Steel Gears are not interchangeable and will cause severe damage.

Use this ignition module vvv.



BWD Ignition Control Module $28.99 @ advance auto parts
Part No. CBE7Z Warranty
OE Style; w/o High Altitude

Use this vvv to help you wire it up.



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Since your '88 engine was already converted to carb in the F150, it cannot run a TFI distributor because theramsey3 is right. If your 1980 bronco has the stock ignition wiring in place, then run the $50 three plug cardone durspark II unit or the hei that you mentioned and be done. Just be sure to get the oil pump drive gear that matches the cam, cast or steel.
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Ok i went back to the 80 dizzy and everything seems to be ok. My only concern at this point is if the dizzy is engaging the oil pump shaft. The 80 dizzy is significantly shorter than the 88. Do you guys know if it is in fact engaging and im just paranoid. and if it's not engaging can the oil pump shaft be swapped out??
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Do you have oil pressure? If so then you should be fine. If not then do something different.


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Ive had a different experience. My 83 had a DS 3 and due to the scarcity of old trucks in the yards around here to get a harness from I went with the Cardone dizzy and a HEI module to run it.

3 returned distributors later I just gave up and ordered a Skip White HEI off Ebay. 48.50 shipped, and from all my research, the exact same distributor MSD sells as Streetfire brand. I will be sure to update good or bad as it should be here by the end of the week.

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Duraspark III swapped to Duraspark II/HEI
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Do you have a link for the distributor?
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