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Looks like a rivet! Maybe a frame rivet.
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That's the thing that sticks out from the frame up front that I hit my head on while working on the BKO. I am going sawzall that thing off one day.
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Its an alignment reference point. Used for measuring various distances so that you know everything is true and square. Body mounts, alignment, etc. Also very handy when measuring during solid axle swaps etc.

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Its an alignment reference point. Used for measuring various distances so
that you know everything is true and square. Body mounts, alignment, etc.
Also very handy when measuring during solid axle swaps etc.
Ford had holes the pointy rivets fit into while assembling the fames? :)
You know Ford did that for a fact?
You seen it? :)

Ford doesn't reference them in their alignment literature, Steve showed
where aftermarket companies have tho.

But there's at least one use I -know- about and it-don't-got-nuthin to do
with alignment. :)

And there's another use that I'm wondering about... the assembly line. ;)
You suppose those pins might have held the frames in the very earliest
stages of the moving assembly line?

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As an H.S. field trip, went and watched 'em put together Chevy Chevelles.
That's the only assembly line this dumb-desert-bound-Gringo ever seen. :/
That was near Baltimore MD. The main thing I remember is how pissed
off all the workers looked! :/

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I used mine to keep the frame off the stands when I painted it.

Other than that, I use them to scratch my back while under it.

Click HERE to visit my frame-off NOS restoration thread.

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Just what I've been told...

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Ford doesn't reference them in their alignment literature...
What Ford frame alignment literature do you have access to?
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...aftermarket companies have tho.
Where do you think those aftermarket companies get that kind of data, if not from Ford?
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What Ford frame alignment literature do you have access to?
Uhhh... I guess I misunderstood you in post #37? :/

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Where do you think those aftermarket companies get that kind of data,
if not from Ford?
Doing their own friggin' research? :/
LOL :)

I finished squaring-up my '75 F150's frame without any help from anyone.
Shirley, an auto-body-tool-specialty-company can do better than me? ;)

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Anyway, alignment ain't what those very-stout-pins for. ;)

I'd like to say, but it'd be cool for someone else to get to do that. :)

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Shirley, an auto-body-tool-specialty-company can do better than me?
Why would they when they can just buy that info from the guys who designed & built each of the thousands of vehicle models out there? Can you imagine how much time & money it would take each auto-body-tool-specialty-company to reverse-engineer each vehicle ever made?
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Why would they when they can just buy that info from the guys who
designed & built each of the thousands of vehicle models out there?
Can you imagine how much time & money it would take each auto-body-
tool-specialty-company to reverse-engineer each vehicle ever made?
Oh, ok, that sounds good, Steve. :)

So what are the pins for? ;)

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The pins are used for fixturing during assembly. Not alignment in the sense of aligning the tires or referencing body mounts ect. but to hold frame exactly where it belongs on the assembly line.
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What was this part used for?
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Frame alignment.
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So what are the pins for?
How many times does it have to be said? Whatever you wanna align a frame with (itself, an assembly line, a stack of frame rails...), those pins are for that.
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The pins are used for fixturing during assembly.
Not alignment in the sense of aligning the tires or referencing body mounts ect.
but to hold frame exactly where it belongs on the assembly line.
Where you at, Erik? :)
You seen frames on an assembly line have you? :)
I've always wondered if that wasn't another use Ford used them for. :)

Get this...
They are -strong- -tapered- -and- there's a hole in the upper flange of the
frame -right-above- -every-dangged-one- of those tapered pins! :)

The tapered pins (and their holes) are for stacking bare frames for whatever
reason they needed to be stacked for.

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As a kid, 21 years old, just bought a new Ford pickup and saw RR flat cars
rolling by with bare-frames-stacked-as-high-as-they-could-get-away-with-
and there were only a couple steel-shipping-straps to hold each tall stack. :/

...It jumped out at me at the time, there wasn't near enough straps! ;)

Then it dawned on me... it's those stinkin' head-knockin' pins holding the
stack together! LOL :)

They were relying on those pins big-time. We cleaned up lots of stuff that'd
fell off trains and sometimes the dragging equipment would take out a signal
or two (or three) from where a box car's door come open or the load on a
flat car shifted and then come loose etc. Bare frames never come loose that
I ever saw or even heard about.

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Steve, doggonit, I thought you'd be the one to figure out their use but I just
couldn't seem to kick you loose from your -silly- "they're only for alignment"
theory. :/

I put this question on a couple other Ford forums and it was fun, Steve why
ain't you any fun? LOL :)

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Where you at, Erik? :)
You seen frames on an assembly line have you? :)
Nope, but I have also never seen the bottom of the middle of the ocean, but I am pretty sure it's down there!
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You're the one with the silly theory. These aren't plastic lawn chairs - you can't stack assembled Bronco frames tightly enough for those stubby pins to engage. They're not the same shape top & bottom, and the shock towers, crossmembers, RA brackets, & engine perches interfere even more. IDK what kind of frames you saw stacked, but it wasn't Ford trucks. And because of the shock towers & leaf spring hangers, the pins would be unnecessary for stacking, anyway.

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You're the one with the silly theory.

These aren't plastic lawn chairs - you can't stack assembled Bronco frames
tightly enough for those stubby pins to engage. They're not the same shape
top & bottom, and the shock towers, crossmembers, RA brackets, & engine
perches interfere even more. IDK what kind of frames you saw stacked, but
it wasn't Ford trucks. And because of the shock towers & leaf spring hangers,
the pins would be unnecessary for stacking, anyway.
Steve, I knew you would -never- be able to admit it. LOL! :)

Neither could my dad, he was a mama's boy through and
through, he was never wrong about anything, either! LOL :)

He never grew out of it, it was as if he was stuck at 2 years
his whole life.

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ps-

That's Steve's own picture showing how they in-fact -could-
be stacked like lawn chairs. But that doesn't matter because
Steve is -always- right. ;)
pps-
The corresponding hole in the frame above each "shipping pin"
is large so the tapered pin can find it and/or fit into it easy. :)
ppps-
No kidding, check it out on your own truck, no matter the year.
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Why would I admit something that's patently absurd & that I know firsthand is wrong? How many Bronco frames have you seen stacked? How many bare Bronco frames have you ever seen? How many do you own right now?


OTOH, you know what they say: like father, like son.
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...my dad, he was a mama's boy through and through, he was never wrong about anything, either! LOL :)
He never grew out of it, it was as if he was stuck at 2 years
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OTOH, you know what they say: like father, like son. :shrug
You're right, Steve, that's all it is, it's my fault. :)

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HELP!!!! headlight wiring harness

I dont know where exactly to post this but I am lookin to find a place to buy a wiring harness for headlight switch... its a 93 but a 92-96 will work.... just dont have one around here since they all seem to have the same problems... Please help!!!
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I dont know where exactly to post this...
Does your question fit the format "What is this thing on my Bronco?" No, so this isn't the right place.

If you want to know where to buy an auto part, try an auto parts store or website.
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