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Shackle flip thoughts

Hey guys, a local is selling sky offroad shackle flip and HD shackles for 200 bucks, they are new and unused said he paid 400. My situation, i have 2.5" of lift block on my rear end and it sits level if not a tad sagged in relation to the front. If i throw the flip kit in, it will give me some extra but i might have to adjust the install so im not too high in the ass. Basically im asking if the flip kit is worth 200 bucks to can my blocks and raise the rear a bit more. Is there any other off roading benefits to a flip kit? Improved flex or anything
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Or should i just do a straight up. Good ol shackle flip. Burn n turn

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the sky shackle flip brackets should net you 4.5" of lift, I believe. I've never seen them in another size... but I know BoulderBronco makes a very similar "flip" style bracket that is far more adjustable with multiple mounting points to choose from. I picked up a used set of sky's around here for... I think $150 for my 4" lift but they need blasting and paint.

if you're loosing 2.5" blocks, or just 2" (with sag or settle, you mentioned) and adding the sky shackle... you'll gain 1.5" or 2" lift in the rear, giving you a pretty serious angle from the rear. might be more rear lift than you want without doing something up front.

my thoughts behind choosing them on my ride was simple. I don't care for blocks, at all. I'll maintain the same ride as stock (same leaf pack, just changed position) vs. add-a-leaf which would stiffen the ride up more than I wanted.

no idea what the real net increase is for turn-n-burn.

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I used the Sky shackle flip brackets on my 95 Bronco and I've installed them on a buddies 94 F-150. The ride is nice and smooth (as compared to the lift springs I used on my 96 Bronco) and I didn't have to use any lift blocks. I did install new heavy duty stock springs from Bronco Graveyard that gave me an additional 2.5" of lift so overall I netted 7" of lift without any blocks. Iv'e done the shackle flip on Chevy trucks too and they all rode very smooth. I've found that anytime you can keep the stock spring you'll get a much better and more comfortable ride.
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The shackle flips to me are a decent solution but not the best for every application, just depends on what your doing.
If you want to do go-fast desert stuff then I would not get them, but for trails and mud and street nothing wrong with them. I think they have the potential to offer more flex then stock, as the stock shackles will hit the mount if you have shocks with enough down travel. The trucks I have seen with these also seem to axle hop more, simple traction bar would resolve that though, and it would most likely be better then your lift block now in regards to that if you even have that issue.


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Thanks for the info. Im considering just flipping the original ones over. I hate blocks, currently i run 4" lift springs from rough country and the 2.5" worth of blocks. Ill see how she goes, looks like I'll need to drop the fuel tank to cook the rivets out

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Well, stock shackles wont flip without a body lift. Not unless i lower them down so only two bolts are used... Probably will grab the others now. Cant do a half ass job
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I flipped my stock ones without a body lift. Pain in the butt drilling the new holes though, I'll tell you that!


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I flipped my stock ones without a body lift. Pain in the butt drilling the new holes though, I'll tell you that!
How much lift did you end up with? any pics you could show me of the final job?

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I moved them forward 4 inches when i flipped them so that my shackle angle would be good. I also put 6 inch lift leafs back there. I netted 9 inches of lift. I'll see if i have any pics of it done.
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Good to know, if u got about 3 extra inches that would be perfect.

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Hey guys, a local is selling sky offroad shackle flip and HD shackles for 200 bucks, they are new and unused said he paid 400. My situation, i have 2.5" of lift block on my rear end and it sits level if not a tad sagged in relation to the front. If i throw the flip kit in, it will give me some extra but i might have to adjust the install so im not too high in the ass. Basically im asking if the flip kit is worth 200 bucks to can my blocks and raise the rear a bit more. Is there any other off roading benefits to a flip kit? Improved flex or anything
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Fwiw, a new Ruffstuff shackle flip kit is around $200. It changes to a female/female type shackle instead of the stock male/female type shackle. So you have the option of using different length shackles to fine tune the height. Ruffstuff is one of FSB's vendors. He gives FSB a discount if you use his top secret code. His stuff is always pretty heavy duty. Couple of links:

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Thanks for the info elkabong! Im a canadian boy so its a few bucks more but i do like the ruffstuffs design. I actually just bough a dana 60. I blew my wad on it lol. No money left for shackles haha

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I used Hefty's shakle flip, he made them in various heights. I got rid of 4" blocks and used stock shackles that I reinforced with an angle. The rear ride is fantastic with bilsteins, and it tucks really well when I need it to. I used the stock wedge between the axle/springs, no unusual vibrations thanks to the DC joint. I did replace my U joint on the axle side and lubed the slip yoke.
Had to drop the tank to properly install the flipped bracket though.

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Hey guys i finally got around to doing my shackle flip. I went ahead and rotated the stock brackets. After the messing around it sits pretty level now after having removed the 2.5" of block. Heres a shot of the shakle angle at idle,hows that look for angle? From what ive seen i think its alright eh? Click image for larger version

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I am going to put in either 1/2 or a 1 inch block/plate to get the ass up higher since i have no seat/spare or fat passengers in it lol.... Ive read the stock ford shackles when hung like this are shit and twist? Can i just gusset the open face with some 1/4" plate and weld er in to box it

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Hey guys i finally got around to doing my shackle flip. I went ahead and rotated the stock brackets. After the messing around it sits pretty level now after having removed the 2.5" of block. Heres a shot of the shakle angle at idle,hows that look for angle? From what ive seen i think its alright eh? Attachment 98754
I am going to put in either 1/2 or a 1 inch block/plate to get the ass up higher since i have no seat/spare or fat passengers in it lol.... Ive read the stock ford shackles when hung like this are shit and twist? Can i just gusset the open face with some 1/4" plate and weld er in to box it
I can't say if they will twist or not as I've never tried the flip with them. But it certainly can't hurt throwing a gusset on there. They are fairly weak mounts, especially when eaten by 30 years of weather. Shackle angle looks pretty good. That's with full weight on it right? You have room to go steeper which is what you want. Anytime you throw weight in it it will still be at a good angle, unless your hauling concrete.

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Ya thats full weight, when you say they are weak mounts, are u referring to the actual frame mount? They do seem cheezy, i guess ill get by for now and one day ill probably buy the ruffstuff ones as my bushings are toasted and i believe it comes with em!

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