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94 hardtop removal seat belt question

Removed my hardtop on my 94 Bronco to get it painted last week. Don't think I want to put it back on again until fall. So my question is: What does everybody do for rear seat belts when the top is removed? Did Ford not account for this when they built these trucks?

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That's why Ford put tamper-proof bolts on the top. So you couldn't take it off because they needed it for the seat belts.

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Change it out to lap belts or put in a roll cage or leave the top on it.
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only an issue in the 5th gen models. afterthought due to regulations, I would think.
I'd love to get a good roll-cage going... but I will probably end up swapping out belts.
probably some legal problems potentially, but I don't have kids and I live in the country.
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Another option is a bench from a late model vehicle with integrated shoulder belts.
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Yo Jimmy,

3rd Brake (High Mount) Light Installation; Mounted on Spare for Soft Top, etc. in a 92; "...Find the plug under the driver side panel and "tap" into the red/green wire (make sure this is the correct wire by pressing the brake light with a tester attached.) Put wire under the carpet or the black trim at the base of the carpet to keep hidden. Than ground the black wire behind your back panel. I have an amp so i used my amp ground..."
Source: by Joe'Bronco at 3rd brake light install (for 92-96) - Ford Bronco Forum

3rd Brake (High Mount) Light Installation for Soft Top, etc in a 96; "...I ran the wire into the paneling on the driver's side and tapped into the solid green wire at the rail to top connection...."
Source: by T-dogg (Mike T) at Topless and California Legal - Ford Bronco Forum

It is a dark green wire as show in attached 94 Bronco wiring diagram.
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I have a 2010 GMC Yukon, the 3rd row seat has headrests and shoulder belts. Maybe I'll just look for one for my bronco?

Roll roll would be nice too.

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Yo Jimmy,
Appears they will fit:
Yukon 3rd row seat Shoulder Room is 61.7"
Bronco rear seat Shoulder Room is 64.9"

Measure the Bronco's bench seat mounting points & compare to the Yukon. See if Yukon's can be mounted to a reinforced floorpan section. Hopefully the lap seat belts are attached to the seat frame.


Item Part Number Description
1 55929-S2 Screw (2 Req'd)
2 98605B28 Plate, Rear Seat Cushion Scuff (1 Req'd) (LH Side Only)
3 613A38 Rear Seat Back Frame
4 387871-S2 Bolt (4 Req'd)
5 383493-S2 Washer
6 67412 Latch Assembly — Rear Seat Cushion
7 604K22 Rear Seat Cushion Torsion Bar
8 N804266-S2 Screw (4 Req'd) (RH Side)
9 385329-S2 Bolt
10 60514 Rear Seat Back Pivot Bracket (1 Req'd) (LH Side Only)
11 387871-S2 Bolt
12 383493-S2 Washer
13 111B42 Rear Floor Pan Opening Cover Plate
14 62440 Rear Seat Back Latch Striker
15 387871-S2 Bolt
16 378444-S Plug
17 67438 Check Spring
18 67440 Check Spring Retainer
19 63160 Rear Seat Cushion Frame
20 382552-S100 Washer
A — Tighten to 54-81 Nm
(40-60 Lb-Ft)
B — Tighten to 16-24 Nm
(12-18 Lb-Ft)
C — Tighten to 18-27 Nm
(13-20 Lb-Ft)

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I have a 2010 GMC Yukon, the 3rd row seat has headrests and shoulder belts. Maybe I'll just look for one for my bronco?

Roll roll would be nice too.
Yukon/Tahoe 3rd row is what I plan to use, I have the seat and the mounting brackets/bolts stashed away for when I get to the interior part of my build.

If you google search for it, there have been other members who used that seat, one even made a 3 row bronco using two of those Yukon benches.
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Is the third row that much cheaper than the roll cage?
I ordered my rollcage from JBG and it was about $1,000 including installation. You can even put the top back on after it is installed.
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If you only have one passenger for the rear, tell them to sit in the middle and use just the lap belt. That's where my son prefers to ride anyway because he can see out the windshield.
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see this tread anybody found a new rear seat?

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If you only have one passenger for the rear, tell them to sit in the middle and use just the lap belt. That's where my son prefers to ride anyway because he can see out the windshield.
I was just worried about an accident and my son getting thrown out of the cab or worse. I have a 10 year old who also really likes to ride in the bronco with the top off so I felt like it was a good investment even though I am probably being overly paranoid. But I also live in Atlanta so traffic here is VERY bad and lots of DA drivers around.
Going to get the third light taken care of this spring as well so it will be fully legal. Last thing I want is to have a beer or two and get pulled over for no third light...though Uber works pretty well to avoid that.

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Yo Jiimy,
Some have found yard queen bench seats in very good condition.

For a YARD SEARCH on-line, I use;
http://www.hollanderparts.com/
A yard that uses Hollander Interchange can search other yards and have it shipped.
Can select certain parts
Has Vehicle Pics! They show about 3 - 5 pics for some vehicles
Try searching for other years earlier than 92, such as:
I searched for 1990 Ford Bronco Interior Seat, Rear Alternate Seat, Rear
Lost Mountain Auto/Truck 3975 Hiram Acworth Hwy Dallas, GA 30157 770-445-4441, but no pic or price.
And searched for 1991
1991GRY CLOTH @ Crest Truck Parts 917 North Tennesse St. Cartersville, GA 30120 770-382-1595 , but no pic or price
...
or
CoPartfinder - Your guide to Auto Parts on the Internet
Has Vehicle Pics! They show about 4 - 5 pics per vehicle incl. interior/dash, back seat, front & rear and engine bay.
Can search by year range, such as 92 through 96
Has Vehicle Pics! They show about 4 -
Can NOT Select certain parts
...

Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market
Can select certain parts
Can search by year range, such as 92 through 96 & has best item condition descriptions such as "COVER BAD LEATHER PWR BKT GRY"
Has Some Vehicle Pics! They show about 4 - 8 pics per vehicle incl. interior/dash, back seat, front & rear and engine bay
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Pick-n-Pull Home
This is a Company name w/yard locations in various states
Can NOT Select certain parts

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Can NOT Select certain parts
Has Vehicle Pics AND Want a Part? It's Easy...
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2. Parts Pullers respond with offers.
3. You pick the best one.
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Yo,
I hit reply by a spastic reaction.
Car-Part.com--Used Auto Parts Market has six page's of results for 1980 - 1991 Ford Bronco (Full Size) Seat, Rear
Non-Interchange search for years: 1980-1991

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I think it was some fed law saying it had to have rear 3 point belts so ford took the cheap and easy way out.They mounted them to the top and changed out the tops bolts and said don't take the top off lol.And the bronco was on its way out ford had the redesigned f150 in the works and it rolled out in 97.It was cheaper for them to do it how they did then redesign the back of the bronco or mount the belts differently.
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Well I guess that's better then just removing the rear seat at the factory. Cheap SOB's!

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If anybody has actually converted a Yukon to fit a Bronco, I would love to see the pix and write up
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Here's a good write. It's not a bronco, but you get the idea.

sebring, tahoe or trail blazer seats? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

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