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Bronco Info: 78 351M C6 35x12.5's and a '92 5.0L on 32x11.5's, ignition upgrade
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Model: C6
Type: three speed non electronic
Years: 1980-1991: F-Series, Bronco
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Engines: 300, 302, 351, 460, 6.9L, 7.3L
Fluid: Mercon
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Trans code: G
what about 78-79 broncos and early-mid 70's f-series? i'm confused why they're not there...

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what about 78-79 broncos and early-mid 70's f-series? i'm confused why they're not there...
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i know a lot of them were C6's, but i know there was a C4 and a C5 also...sorry i can't help much beyond that.

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just found this site http://www.baumannengineering.com/alphabet.htm which is where i got this...

In past 35 years Ford has produced many different rear-wheel-drive automatic transmissions, most of which have been introduced since 1980. The following list outlines a brief chronology of Ford Motor Company’s modern automatic transmissions followed by descriptions of some of the more complicated members.

The FMX/Cruise-O-Matic three speed evolved from the 1950’s Ford-O-Matic and was used until 1980 when the AOD was introduced.

In 1964, the C-4 was introduced, providing a lightweight and durable three-speed automatic which is a favorite among racers today. The C-4 was produced until 1982, when it was replaced by the C-5.

The C-6 appeared in 1966 as a heavy-duty unit primarily used behind big-block engines or in large vehicles. Internally, it is much like a scaled-up C-4. The C-6 is still used today in certain truck applications.

The French-built C-3 was first used in 1974 in the Ford Pinto and remained until the Merkur XR4TI was dropped in 1989.

The Automatic Overdrive (AOD) transmission was introduced in 1980 as Ford's first four-speed automatic overdrive transmission (a.k.a. AOT or FIOD in some literature). Internals are loosely based on the FMX. The AOD was finally replaced by the AOD-E/4R70W in 1994 for all remaining applications.

1982 brought the C-5 which was essentially a stronger C-4 with a centrifugal torque converter lock-up clutch and an enhanced valve body for smoother shifting. It was produced through 1986 and was completely replaced by the AOD.

The A4LD four speed overdrive transmission was introduced in the 1985 Bronco II/Ranger and saw use behind many 4 and 6 cylinder engines until the 1995 model year when it was replaced by the 4R44E and 4R55E electronic transmissions. The A4LD was the first Ford transmission to use an EEC-controlled torque converter lock-up clutch and later became the first to use electronic shift control (via a 3-4 shift solenoid). The French-built A4LD was created by adding overdrive to the front of the C-3 three-speed unit.

Full-size trucks first received the huge E4OD (Electronic 4 speed OverDrive) transmission in 1989. Internally, it is essentially a C-6 with overdrive added to the front (such as the A4LD is to the C-3) and an EEC controlled valve body.

The AOD-E transmission first appeared behind the 4.6L modular V-8 engines in 1992. Essentially a beefed-up electronically-controlled version of the AOD, the AOD-E also includes a new and stronger wide ratio model (the AOD-EW or 4R70W) which was introduced in the 1993 Lincoln Mark VIII. The AOD-E (in both standard and wide ratio versions) completely replaced the old AOD in 1994 with a new case that mates to the 5.0L and 3.8L engines.

For 1995, the 4R44E (4 cyl. - light-duty) and 4R55E (6 cyl. - heavy-duty; i.e. Explorer) electronically controlled transmission replaced the A4LD. It is mechanically identical to the A4LD.

Later, the 5R55E was introduced behind the 4.0L SOHC V6 as the first domestic five-speed automatic. Mechanically similar to the 4R55E, the 5R55E uses revised controls to leverage the mechanical capabilities of the 4R55E to deliver a fifth forward speed.

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The C5 is a C4 derivative made for a few years before the AOD came out. I don't think they were used in trucks, but I'm not certain.

That three speed should be the same Ford top-loader three speed that was used in ... well, everything. As far as I know they were all pretty much the same light duty three speed transmission, with a few modifications and variations for different applications. I'll have to try and remember to look in my 85 shop manual when I get home to pull out whatever additional information I can.

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The "R" in the newer transmission model numbers means "Rear-wheel drive"; not "Reverse".

Advance Adapters has a pretty thorough list of bellhousing groups.

The Ford model number for the ZF S5-42/47 is M5OD-HD (code Z). The model number for the 6-speed is M6HD-6 (6). The fullsize Mazda is M5OD-R2 (M). All take Dexron/Mercon.

The E4OD (E) was introduced in '89.

Several TSBs (including a chart of updated fluid usage) that apply to transmissions are now either in the TSB thread, or referenced in it. Exploded views of certain transmissions are in my Diagrams album linked to my signature.

***EDIT***
T-case Info:

NP-208F '80~85 light-duty chain-drive, Aluminum case, standard 6-bolt mounting, left-side manual shift (2H, 4H, N, 4L), left side front output fixed yoke, pickup rear output slip splines/Bronco rear fixed yoke, low ratio: 2.61, fluid: Mercon, ID: round tag screwed to rear case near fill plug.

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BW 1345 '80~89 medium-duty chain-drive, Aluminum case, standard 6-bolt mounting, left-side manual shift (2H, 4H, N, 4L), left side front output fixed yoke, rear output fixed yoke (all applications), low ratio: ?, fluid: Mercon, ID: model number cast into rear case between ribs

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BW 1356 '85~97 heavy-duty chain-drive, Magnesium case (except the Aluminum front half w/PTO), standard 6-bolt mounting, left-side manual shift (2H, 4H, N, 4L) or ESOF (2H, 4H, 4L), left side front output fixed yoke, rear output- pickup: slip splines/Bronco ('85~89): fixed yoke; (~'89-97): fixed companion flange, diesel variant has PTO plate R side, low ratio: ?, fluid: Mercon, ID: model number cast into rear case between ribs, KNOWN PROBLEMS: pump stay arm wears through case rib & spins; ESOF motor locks up if not used regularly

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I stuck the thread...now lets see if remember how to change the title

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SROD and NP-435 is 80-90
Adrian, you said you would put 80W-90 in these 2 gear boxes.



Edit: I had a couple of thoughts as of late to get this thing even further.

Did you want me to get lengths of the trannys???

Were we gonna do T cases?

Can we do Drive shaft part #'s? I just removed my front one and noticed there is a silver sticker on it that you can read perfectly fine. I then looked and sure enough the rear one is readable as well. I think it would be interesting to see what trucks they put what driveshafts in and if auto/manuals are the same.

Tranny X member pics?

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Both the S5-42 and S5-47 diesel ZFs will fit in a Bronco? Are these the only two or is there a third diesel that will not work?
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Both the S5-42 and S5-47 diesel ZFs will fit in a Bronco? Are these the only two or is there a third diesel that will not work?
diesel= no fit
460= fit in a 78-81 with an M
Small block= fit 302/351

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Model: 4R70w
Type: Four speed + reverse and 70(x10)lbs of torque
Years: 94-96 Bronco, F150
..........97-03 Expedition, F150
..........04-06 F150
Engines: 300, 302, 4.2L, 4.6L, 5.4L
Display: PRN(D)21 w/ overdrive lockout switch
Fluid: Mercon V
Ratios:
1st 2.84:1
2nd 1.55:1
3rd 1.00:1
4th 0.70:1
Reverse 2.32:1
Trans code: U
Was the 4R70W available in the Bronco? I thought the only OD with a lockout switch in a Bronco was the E4OD.
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Sorry, looks like just used with the 302 in the F-150.
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diesel= no fit
460= fit in a 78-81 with an M
Small block= fit 302/351
Then why are diesel transmissions listed in the "Bronco Tranny and T-Case Info" thread?
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Because they are very common in parts yards. Still tryin to think of a way to describe bell housings.

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T-cases would be a big help for this new user
Yeah I was wondering why the thread is titled "Bronco Tranny and T-Case Info" but there is no T-case info

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Yes. Personally have seen a 95 302 with at 4R70w. Many F150s as well.

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Are you sure that wasn't a retrofit in the FSBs? Also, the 4R70W was bolted up to some vehicles with the 3.8 v6 and so was the AOD.

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