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post #21 of 46 (permalink) Old 09-20-2010, 05:44 PM Thread Starter
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Going 8 lug, so won't fit.. plus I will be getting the correct backspacing on my new rims to take care of any rub.
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Won't you need the spacers for your SAS?

Thanks for the pics on the TTB tie rod flip.
depends on the tie rods you use, the chevy tie rods (what most guys use) have a bigger shank so you have to ream more metal, so you dont end up with the hour glass shape.

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The chevrolet TRE's are larger and if you ream the knuckle, it goes all the way down. I do not have the part numbers for them but there are some that have. If you search, they have the PNs for them and the size of DOM.

Not sure about the bottom of the ends if the sleeves are used. There are some that have added a JB weld type and gone from there. If you use the sleeves, there should be enough material to not worry.

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i know this is old,and i know this has probabley been gone over before, but couldnt find it. do i need the drop pit man arm if i use the 5.5 dever springs. i have a 4" rancho kit now with the radius arms. i got a great deal on the devers but i also want to change the tre flip to help with the angles. any help would be great.
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i know this is old,and i know this has probabley been gone over before, but couldnt find it. do i need the drop pit man arm if i use the 5.5 dever springs. i have a 4" rancho kit now with the radius arms. i got a great deal on the devers but i also want to change the tre flip to help with the angles. any help would be great.
If you put the 5.5 deavers on then yes you are going to want to have the drop pitman arm even when doing the flip. When you go to knuckle under the drop pitman arm will help to flatten your steering and should improve your geometry, control and handling. In addition it will help your steering a bit when flexed out.

Before with drop pitman arm:



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the closer you can get your TREs flat the better for control and overall steering. you might be able to get away without a drop arm but if your doing this you might as well get one and do it right.
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While I totally agree that the flip is a good idea (I did it), those pics are not really fair comparison. The TTB will be more "sprung" when supported on jack stands then tires. (Look at the distance between the bump stop and the axle.)
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is JBG the only source for the sleeves to perform this flip? its crazy how they want to charge me $10 for shipping on such a small part.

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is JBG the only source for the sleeves to perform this flip? its crazy how they want to charge me $10 for shipping on such a small part.
they are probably the cheapest unless you can find some off brand website.

Most places charge double the price for just one.. and then charge you shipping on top of that.
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Landshark, do you can the tierods be reused if they are still in good condition. my drag link is a bit loose and will be replaced. any recommendations on a source for a good quality inexpensive drag link.

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Landshark, do you can the tierods be reused if they are still in good condition. my drag link is a bit loose and will be replaced. any recommendations on a source for a good quality inexpensive drag link.

Glad this thread was brought back up. I think I will do this when I put my C&T on. Did you ever sell those spacers, Landshark?

As for the drag links, I just replaced mine a few days ago. The passenger side (long) drag link was @ $66.00 at O'reilly and the driver side (short) was @ $19.00 at O'reilly.

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Landshark, do you can the tierods be reused if they are still in good condition. my drag link is a bit loose and will be replaced. any recommendations on a source for a good quality inexpensive drag link.
you can reuse whatever is in good condition no problem. You can pick up most of the front TRE's/draglink from your local auto store or JBG sells them as well..
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just got my bronco back from the shop last night. got my tierods flipped, new drag links installed an a new Red-Head gear box. steering is night and day difference. Love it. This mod should be high on everyone's list.

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i didnt use the sleeves on mine, think i will have any problems????
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i didnt use the sleeves on mine, think i will have any problems????
probably not, i know quite a few people here who didn't use the sleeves and haven't had any problems.
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i didnt use the sleeves on mine, think i will have any problems????
I didnt use them and I havent had a problem yet. (at least a year) I'm running 38" tires, so I'm kind of expecting trouble. I think I'm going to order a set to have on hand.

I might add that if you have a swaybar, you can swap the "dogbones" side to side and flip them to.
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You will also need a 1/2 drill, some grease, and to do it right you will also need the conversion sleeves, i used these:


from http://broncograveyard.com/bronco/i-...n-sleeves.html

they worked perfectly.

Here's the reamer and the sleeves.


Hate to bring back this thread but I will be flipping my TREs soon and using this write-up.

Question I have is does anyone else sell these sleves? From Bronco graveyard they want $28.08 shipped. Thats $10.08 in shipping for these little things.
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Hate to bring back this thread but I will be flipping my TREs soon and using this write-up.

Question I have is does anyone else sell these sleves? From Bronco graveyard they want $28.08 shipped. Thats $10.08 in shipping for these little things.
maybe call and ask them if they are willing to drop them in a USPS envelope?
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Hate to bring back this thread but I will be flipping my TREs soon and using this write-up.

Question I have is does anyone else sell these sleves? From Bronco graveyard they want $28.08 shipped. Thats $10.08 in shipping for these little things.
Bronco Graveyard has a reputation for being fawking scumbag jagoffs with ridiculous shipping prices. God forbid they "break even" on ANYTHING.

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Bronco Graveyard has a reputation for being fawking scumbag jagoffs with ridiculous shipping prices. God forbid they "break even" on ANYTHING.
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try callnig them. theres another place that sells them but i forgot what its called. also i htink ruffstuff or somewhere has a differenv version of these that only requires a 7/8" drill bit and not the reamer.

btw if anybody needs to barrow the reamer i have one. as long as you pay shipping and dont completly fawk it up. done 3 trucks myelf with it and had numerous other barrow it already. still works fine


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