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id think the easiest way to tell if its a 3/4 ton bracket or not is if the caliper bolts on.


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just curious why you couldn't just use the factory d44 ttb 8 lug stuff?
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just curious why you couldn't just use the factory d44 ttb 8 lug stuff?
Because they don't in anyway bolt on like GM parts do. If if your curiosity would have searched you would have found that.

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Ah. Gotcha Well....Off to ebay to find a set that will work then. Thanks folks.
This is about the cheapest I've found them online, if your willing to go search yards you'll be able to find them cheaper.
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if u take a 8 lug d44 ttb it will swap not a d50 but a d44 out of light duty f-250 from the 80's
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if u take a 8 lug d44 ttb it will swap not a d50 but a d44 out of light duty f-250 from the 80's
Do you really want to start this BS? I've worked on 5 and 8 lug TTB along with the dana 50 TTB, and I know that they won't.
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so a 8 lug hub off a lt duty 250 will not fit a 5 lug spindle? im asking because a buddy took my old ttb and swaped his 150 to 8 lug to match his sterling rear
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the D44HD and D44 are not the same as the HD and the D50 are more similar. the HD use the same housing as the 50 which means the ball joints are in different locations making swapping the knuckles not possible. the spindles are different so you cant just swap the hubs. I also wouldn't doubt the brakes for the HD are too big for the 44 calipers and being the calipers go directly to the knuckle it wouldn't work


more than likely, ur buddy swapped the entire ttb to a D50. but that does a lot of problems a lot of people wouldn't prefer because it has shorter beams, harder to find lift kits for, and is designed for leaf sprung suspension. most people would prefer to just do a SAS with that amount of work since 90% of people hate the ttb


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yea im not sure he took all of it including the drop brackets so may have swapped everything never asked other then did it work and he said yea so idk good to know he sold truck right after so never saw it
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the D44HD and D44 are not the same as the HD and the D50 are more similar. the HD use the same housing as the 50 which means the ball joints are in different locations making swapping the knuckles not possible. the spindles are different so you cant just swap the hubs. I also wouldn't doubt the brakes for the HD are too big for the 44 calipers and being the calipers go directly to the knuckle it wouldn't work


more than likely, ur buddy swapped the entire ttb to a D50. but that does a lot of problems a lot of people wouldn't prefer because it has shorter beams, harder to find lift kits for, and is designed for leaf sprung suspension. most people would prefer to just do a SAS with that amount of work since 90% of people hate the ttb
The housings are actually different also.
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ahh well I never owned one. I just seen them.


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Looks good mine just went on stands yesterday! Got everything ground down and test fitted and just need to pick up the outer axle shafts. If anyone is interested I found a company on EBay, "Venture Truck Parts" the guy's name is Chris, and he sent me used spindles, seals & bearings, spindle studs, and even new military Chevy calipers with pads (for $40 ea) and they were great to deal with! Of course the calipers are camouflage so they match nothing on my rig so they're getting painted. I think I'm going with the Stage 8 wheel bearing lock kits for the preload bearings. Expensive but they won't let them loosen up! Even found a guy on Craigslist to buy my 5x5.5 17's so I can buy a pair of 8x6.5 for the front. I think the only other thing I need is some SS Chevy extended brake lines to complete the mod!! -Kevin-

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that's were I bought my spindle and axle shafts. they turned out great and saved a lot of money and looked perfect.


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that's were I bought my spindle and axle shafts. they turned out great and saved a lot of money and looked perfect.
Yeah Chris is pretty much on top of it. I called one Monday and his wife answered and said nope sorry none of the guys are here they're all gone Jeep wheeling for a couple days and left me here.....lol....must be nice! I think the only thing I need left from him is the shafts then I think I'm going to remove all the 4WABS parts and sell them along with the Power Slot rotors, SS lines, etc to save up to swap the Sterling over to disc. RuffStuff and Ford pretty much have everything I need to get this truck stopping on a dime since I just did the F350 master and booster a couple months ago... -Kevin-

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I ended up having to upgrade to chromoly stub shafts and only using spicer 760's u-joints after doing a c&t and 8 lug conv. My frontend used to like to eat up u-joints and the shafts connected to them, mostly from me abusing them with a very heavy right foot.

I bought mine from Randy's ring$pinion part#YA W38815 for $121.17 a piece, There diffidently beefy compared to stock and have lasted almost a year.
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I ended up having to upgrade to chromoly stub shafts and only using spicer 760's u-joints after doing a c&t and 8 lug conv. My frontend used to like to eat up u-joints and the shafts connected to them, mostly from me abusing them with a very heavy right foot.

I bought mine from Randy's ring$pinion part#YA W38815 for $121.17 a piece, There diffidently beefy compared to stock and have lasted almost a year.
Are those 10-bolt 3/4 ton Chevy shafts used for the 8-lug swap or regular TTB D44 ones? I'm guessing from what you posted they are for the 8-lug but they look shorter than the Chevy's of course it's hard to tell online. Were you eating them up because of the angle generated by the cut-n-turn because doing the 8-lug swap shouldn't cause that? -Kevin-

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Those are likely for the 8 lug, though I'm not sure why only outers? I know the outer is potentially more likely to break vs. an inner, but if you're doing joints as well, why not have a complete set of alloy shafts, along with an alloy joint?







Edit: DOH! Should have read the thread title, this is for an 8 lug ttb, guess I know why just outers now.

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Are those 10-bolt 3/4 ton Chevy shafts used for the 8-lug swap or regular TTB D44 ones? I'm guessing from what you posted they are for the 8-lug but they look shorter than the Chevy's of course it's hard to tell online. Were you eating them up because of the angle generated by the cut-n-turn because doing the 8-lug swap shouldn't cause that? -Kevin-
Ya, there 3/4 ton Chevy shaft. I think it's the slight angle from my c&t's that puts extra stress on them. The u joints broke while under full drop on oneside of the axle with wheels turned all the way one direction and having to use a lot of throttle to make up a muddy, rocky, wet hillclimb, not a good combo but fun.
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The caliper brackets I had were without a doubt 1/2 ton ones. I found a set on Pirate4x4 for $37 shipped from california to my door in northern Pa.

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Those are likely for the 8 lug, though I'm not sure why only outers? I know the outer is potentially more likely to break vs. an inner, but if you're doing joints as well, why not have a complete set of alloy shafts, along with an alloy joint?







Edit: DOH! Should have read the thread title, this is for an 8 lug ttb, guess I know why just outers now.
Ooooh Mark those u-joints looks sweet who makes them? I'd like to upgrade to the Chromo shafts and those joints later on but for now just need to get the front and rear done so I can drop a 22RE in my wife's 4Runner that we just found.

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Ya, there 3/4 ton Chevy shaft. I think it's the slight angle from my c&t's that puts extra stress on them. The u joints broke while under full drop on oneside of the axle with wheels turned all the way one direction and having to use a lot of throttle to make up a muddy, rocky, wet hillclimb, not a good combo but fun.
I'm hoping with 17's and 35's and running 4.56's I should be okay for awhile till I can upgrade the shafts and joints but not sure. Does strengthening the outer setups send more stress to the inner like the carrier gear etc? I did the D50 stub shaft swap years ago so accessing both sides is easier now. Just not sure if it's smarter to just carry a spare outer setup with a joint attached to it, or even a spare inner/outer assembled or save up and pick up the heavy-duty setup and hope it is strong enough to keep from having any problems further inward?

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The caliper brackets I had were without a doubt 1/2 ton ones. I found a set on Pirate4x4 for $37 shipped from california to my door in northern Pa.
That's a good deal especially shipped to your door! I just received my front shafts and rear calipers for the disc swap on the Sterling and I'm heading over to RuffStuff to grab the disc brake adapters so as soon as the front is finished I'm starting on the rear.... -Kevin-

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Those are Yukon alloy shafts/joints.

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