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post #81 of 253 (permalink) Old 05-30-2007, 10:51 AM
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The length of the thread can get intimidating; when one guy posts 40 or 50 pictures of himself, I'm not really inclined to go any further. It begins to make a joke out of something you guys want to be serious.?
40 or 50 pics at once can be a bit annoying I agree, but 40 or 50 per the length of the entire thread doesn't bother me any.

What bothers me are those who don't take the time to resize there 5-Mega pixel pics to a reasonable size.

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Maybe some guidelines could be set to limit how much self-promotion the guys can do in the FOTM thread.
The whole point of the thread is self promotion, or at least Bronco promotion.

Setting "guidelines" doesn't work, it would have to be hard fast rules.


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just post the 5 or 10 of the best pics as a teaser to get you to look at them, with a link to their own personal thread that has as many pics as they want?
Then instead of one FOTM thread we will have 5 or more.

They could link to there Supermoters account, but looking through those can be a pain in the but.

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I still think the posting should be limited to those who are nominated. All the filler posts of " I gotta give it to this guy" or " why didn't you do this" take away from the purpose of the thread. .
I kinda agree, but I have asked a question or two about the trucks before.
"Hey how did you do that" or "Do you have any more pics of this"
Sometimes it can ad to the thread I think.

But yea the "I had to vote for this guy because he had the only (list year here) in the contest" post can be a bit annoying.

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It should also be limited to pics of the truck, and what was done to it. No dog pics, no girlfriend pics (we have threads for both)
This I agree with 100%
Hot girls, cute dogs, cool tats, non of this should have anything to do with FOTM.

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You're not going to take the human factor out of it. There can be the biggest, baddest built rig in the contest and it will lose to a truck that is half as built, or not built at all because it was up against a member who has been here for ever and has a bunch of E-friends. Which is BS in my opinion because it is not Member of the Month, it is Fullsize of the Month.
That has happened several times and your right, It shouldn't be that way. But there is nothing that can be done about it.

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Since a prior post of mine was in the wrong place.

Let it be said here then, there needs to be concrete rules about FOTM.

It is absolutely ridiculous to allow competition to be based upon a popularity factor. When I see a FOTM I guess I got the gist of this contest all wrong. I thought it was supposed to be a bronco that just made you stop and go wow. I wish I owned that truck. Whether it be for the perfect original state it is in, or whether it be for how well it functions wheeling or the modifications the owner did, whatever. It is about the bronco not about the dang owner. There are months that when I vote I don’t post in the thread letting people know who I voted for. It is because I don’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings. I don’t vote based on who is my friend. I vote based on the bronco I wish I owned.

I just sat there and read reply after reply where people voted for an owner who had NO pictures of his dang truck up. um wtf? It is even really clearly reflected in the voting posts that they are voting because of what a nice person said owner is. Uhm that’s nice and all, but where the heck are the pictures of the bronco? They were finally added and yet how many votes even after that said wow I am impressed with your bronco?

caveat: I am very impressed with said owner, do not for a second mistake that belief. I think the site is lucky to have him contributing as he does, no question about it.

BUT... this is not a popularity contest. We should not let it evolve into one. This is about the broncos isn't it? There is a gorgeous bronco pic whoring on top of sand dunes who deserves a heck of a lot more votes than it has gotten. I just don't get this new popularity factor. Though I shouldn't say new as this has happened one other very notable FOTM that I can think of.

Can those of us out here looking at this contest shaking our heads get some direction from FSB. Tell us is it a bronco contest or a popularity contest? That will change how I vote.

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Since a prior post of mine was in the wrong place.

Let it be said here then, there needs to be concrete rules about FOTM.

It is absolutely ridiculous to allow competition to be based upon a popularity factor. When I see a FOTM I guess I got the gist of this contest all wrong. I thought it was supposed to be a bronco that just made you stop and go wow. I wish I owned that truck. Whether it be for the perfect original state it is in, or whether it be for how well it functions wheeling or the modifications the owner did, whatever. It is about the bronco not about the dang owner. There are months that when I vote I donít post in the thread letting people know who I voted for. It is because I donít want to hurt anyoneís feelings. I donít vote based on who is my friend. I vote based on the bronco I wish I owned.

I just sat there and read reply after reply where people voted for an owner who had NO pictures of his dang truck up. um wtf? It is even really clearly reflected in the voting posts that they are voting because of what a nice person said owner is. Uhm thatís nice and all, but where the heck are the pictures of the bronco? They were finally added and yet how many votes even after that said wow I am impressed with your bronco?

caveat: I am very impressed with said owner, do not for a second mistake that belief. I think the site is lucky to have him contributing as he does, no question about it.

BUT... this is not a popularity contest. We should not let it evolve into one. This is about the broncos isn't it? There is a gorgeous bronco pic whoring on top of sand dunes who deserves a heck of a lot more votes than it has gotten. I just don't get this new popularity factor. Though I shouldn't say new as this has happened one other very notable FOTM that I can think of.

Can those of us out here looking at this contest shaking our heads get some direction from FSB. Tell us is it a bronco contest or a popularity contest? That will change how I vote.

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That has happened several times and your right, It shouldn't be that way. But there is nothing that can be done about it.
You just can't make people vote using all identical reasoning. It would be nice, but it's not possible. And, Audra, I do vote like you. I pick the bronco I'd want to have in my driveway.

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Right we do vote how we see fit. But should it be as an open contest like it is becoming, or is this still a bronco contest? I think we need better direction from FSB, a set of rules that says let it be about the truck itself. No matter what you like the truck for.

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Let it be said here then, there needs to be concrete rules about FOTM.

Can those of us out here looking at this contest shaking our heads get some direction from FSB. Tell us is it a bronco contest or a popularity contest? That will change how I vote.
New rules, the future direction of FOTM, and if there will continue to be a FOTM, are all being discused by FSB staff curently.

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I sure hope we continue on. The "if" part is just sad. I think this is an incredible opportunity to showcase some owner's vehicles.

I just believe the rules haven't been adhered to causing some hurt feelings here and there. I think I can sit here and talk openly because I have no vested interest, nor any past with the contest.

I have never been nominated, I have never put my truck in the thread to be nominated, I have never declined an email invite or anything to do with the contest. This is just a third party set of eyes going hey this needs some concreteness. If there are set rules and they are enforced strictly, then no one can get hurt feelings. It is just the way it is.
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I sure hope we continue on. The "if" part is just sad. I think this is an incredible opportunity to showcase some owner's vehicles.
I believe it will continue. There are many things being discussed about FOTM currently.

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I just believe the rules haven't been adhered to causing some hurt feelings here and there.
The current rules are rather vague.
(scroll down to "Contest rules")
http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/...ead.php?t=1884

Additional rules are being discussed, but no firm decision has been reached yet.

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I think we need better direction from FSB, a set of rules that says let it be about the truck itself. No matter what you like the truck for.


This would help keep the grey area down to a minimum. I personally vote with more than just how a bronco is shown on the thread and as of right now, that is OK. It seems to ruffle a lot of feathers that a mass majority of people vote this way. I understand that some people view it as a picture does the talking while others take in all the info known about the truck and it's owner. I just find it disturbing that a person who does so much for the forum, wouldn't be able to win in the FOTM because his truck isn't as photogenic. FOTM shouldn't be about who gets the most pictures or who willing to put themselves in danger in order to get "the picture". I'm not saying anyone is or has but if it's all about who has the best pictures, that's not going to be fair to those who (a) don't wheel their rig, (b) don't have a nice camera and (c) may not be computer savvy.

I guess FOTM could be BPFOTM or best photographed fullsize of the month.

I'm not trying to be a jerk but lets face it, most would vote the bronco that are nice and have nice owners. If youv'e had an online argument with someone, I doubt you'd vote for them no matter how nice their bronco is.

(like right now if I was running, I don't think I'd get some peoples votes because of my views on the voting)

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I thought this was kind of funny / related to the topic.

http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/...ad.php?t=24454

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I just find it disturbing that a person who does so much for the forum, wouldn't be able to win in the FOTM because his truck isn't as photogenic. FOTM shouldn't be about who gets the most pictures or who willing to put themselves in danger in order to get "the picture". I'm not saying anyone is or has but if it's all about who has the best pictures, that's not going to be fair to those who (a) don't wheel their rig, (b) don't have a nice camera and (c) may not be computer savvy.
You said it right there "I just find it disturbing that a person who does so much for the forum, wouldn't be able to win in the FOTM because his truck isn't as photogenic"

It is not about the person. It is about the truck.

Yes we expect to see pictures.

Pictures of the actual vehicle being voted for.

we want the story and history of that vehicle.

Pictures of friends vehicles (happens every contest), dialogues about what you've done for other's rigs, etc don't have to do with the bronco running for best truck.


It is NOT about wheeling. That awesome green 78/79 "pretty" bronco that ran the one month got my vote. Just because I was sickenly jealous of that beautiful rig.

It is about the bronco.

It should remain about the bronco.
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I just find it disturbing that a person who does so much for the forum, wouldn't be able to win in the FOTM because his truck isn't as photogenic.
What a person does for the site shouldn't make a huge impact on there standings in FOTM.

Fore example.

Mike2 cant ever win FOTM and his truck is photogenic. He has donated time and money to the site and has even sponsored FullSize Memberships for people. But he can never run for FOTM.

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if it's all about who has the best pictures, that's not going to be fair to those who (a) don't wheel their rig, (b) don't have a nice camera and (c) may not be computer savvy.
It's about who has the Bronco that you like the best. Thats who you should be voting for. Sure the persons online persona does have some impact, but it should not be the primary reason you vote for a particulat contestants ride.

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I thought this was kind of funny / related to the topic.

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It's about who has the Bronco that you like the best. Thats who you should be voting for. Sure the persons online persona does have some impact, but it should not be the primary reason you vote for a particulat contestants ride.
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Fixed it for you.
I liked it so much I went back and bolded Bronco in my post
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I guess the 60 something votes are wrong in how the FOTM should go. A huge turn out and support and it's shunned away because the guy didn't post pics of his bronco on the thread. Meanwhile, Iv'e seen more of his bronco than my own.

It's because of THOSE pics that I got into the FSB forum and have non-stopped modded my formally stock truck into a trail rig. His isn't a trail rig but he showed that you can do what you want using his own bronco as an example. His is the most freeway / city driver friendly bronco Iv'e ever seen and he's shown us DD what to do if we want actual results without spending to much. That's why people have non-stop voted for "his truck".

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...I can't seperate the [Bronco and owner] since I feel that the person makes the vehicle....
I agree with this completely. Most of the trucks on this site would be rusting heaps or coke cans if not for the love and labor of the owners. I don't think that the vote should be made solely based on the owner or the vehicle, but as mixture of both. The truck would be absolutely nothing without the owner.

I also think that most of ya'll are looking at this a little too seriously. There is no need for anyone to get pissed off and burn bridges over FOTM.

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His isn't a trail rig but he showed that you can do what you want using his own bronco as an example. His is the most freeway / city driver friendly bronco I've ever seen and he's shown us DD what to do if we want actual results without spending too much.
I think this is an important point. Six doesn't need to show a lot of pictures of the truck itself, because it looks like a pretty clean `80s Bronco. It's the pictures of mods and descriptions thereof that matter, in his case, because his truck happens to be a 20 MPG Bronco with a lot of longevity/convenience mods and some restoration work. It's a very uncommon truck, just in a different direction than the usual "big lift big tires" nominee. His "cheap Scot" attitude is all part of the package. I think he'd be a worthy FOTM winner, because a write-up in Bronco Driver that isn't about "how I lifted it" or "what I've driven it through" but is more about "how I made it last" and "check out this mileage" would be refreshing.
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