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Hey did you ever get them trac bar measurements?
Sorry, I had to run up to Austin real quick. Ill be back home day after tomorrow. Ill get them posted as soon as I get back.

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It's going to be interesting to see how your track bar angle turns out with that steering set up.
x2, with the draglink on the high steer arm and the drop pitman arm, and with cages upper mount not giving much drop below the frame at all, i dont see this lining up


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x2, with the draglink on the high steer arm and the drop pitman arm, and with cages upper mount not giving much drop below the frame at all, i dont see this lining up
Yeah, I feel you on that one. The steering kit uses a stock pittman arm not a dropped one, and Ive been assured itll work. Just have to wait till my front end gets here and see if it will all line up.

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Whats going to give you problems is the way the trac bar bolts to the axle... With that high steer arm your going to need like a 6"(just throwing out a number here) mount that brings the trac bar up to run parallel to the drag link...


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Whats going to give you problems is the way the trac bar bolts to the axle... With that high steer arm your going to need like a 6"(just throwing out a number here) mount that brings the trac bar up to run parallel to the drag link...
Ok, gotcha. Guess it was apparent that I wasnt quite getting the hint.......I didnt know they needed to run parallel to each other .
What would be best?.....one big block to raise the trac bar mount on the axle up, or two moderate blocks raising and lowering the lower and upper trac bar mounts respectively.
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The taller the tower, the more leverage will be on it. id probably split it between the two to some extent, but since the D60's tube thickness is 1/2", id build a tall beefy one on the axle, just make sure it wont contact the pass side frame rail when that side compresses.
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The taller the tower, the more leverage will be on it. id probably split it between the two to some extent, but since the D60's tube thickness is 1/2", id build a tall beefy one on the axle, just make sure it wont contact the pass side frame rail when that side compresses.
Yea the last thing you need is that bracket breaking off the axle housing on ya... Id do exactly what rept suggested, try to split it equally between the upper and lower mount, WITHOUT getting the mount in the way of when you flex the suspension...


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Woulda sucked to realize that after I had welded on the lower mount. The good thing is that im not running my old dropped pittman arm, because the steering comes with its own. It looks pretty much stock, I dunno, but its nowhere near as low as my old one (its in the pic of the steering setup I posted earlier). That should reduce the angle I've gotta adjust the trac bar to significantly. Ill split the difference between the two axles, with the larger block on the axle if neccesary.
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Hey, how long is your Cage trac bar... like the total length without the heim screwed in? Me and another guy's were both way too long.
The total length without the heim screwed in is 37''. Hows that compared to yours?

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In another post he said his was like 39-40 with the heim in, which means its probably too long.

IIRC my track bar is 35.5" from the middle of each joints eyelet.

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Thanks again... you probably got my reply to your message too.. said pretty much what he just said. Let me know what you get back from Cage. I don't think we all should have to cut our trac-bars due to a mistake on their end ya know? I'm pretty sure the bar is supposed to fit on 4'+ lifts, and it's not even coming close to fitting on my 9". Here's a pic:

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Thanks again... you probably got my reply to your message too.. said pretty much what he just said. Let me know what you get back from Cage. I don't think we all should have to cut our trac-bars due to a mistake on their end ya know? I'm pretty sure the bar is supposed to fit on 4'+ lifts, and it's not even coming close to fitting on my 9". Here's a pic:

Yeah, with my high steering kit, I was already looking at probably having to shorten it, now looks like Ill be shortening it even more. Not that shortening the bar is a big deal, but it kinda defeats the purpose of buying it pre-made from somebody else. Ill give cage a call and see what they say.

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Hey everyone,
Just letting you all know that the project is still on....I ran into alot of difficulty getting my D60. On top of it all, Im moving to Tuscon, AZ day after tomorrow, so Ive pretty much been focusing on that. The D60 should be waiting for me up in Tuscon (fingers crossed) and then itll be time to hit it hard!! Ill post some new pics as soon as I get some progress....

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Cage changed the shock mount?
Im not sure, these are the only ones Ive seen.....you have pics of the old ones?

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Finally!!!!

Ok, I finally got settled in Tucson. Today is the first Ive been able to touch my truck. Basically, I got the rear off and the sterling cleaned up (no pics of the cleaned up version yet). The tiny tires were put on for towing and getting in the garage.

Heres the 9'' after it was pulled....
Itll be up for sale soon after I clean it up a bit (5.13 / Detroit True trac)


Heres the truck with no rear.....



and heres the sterling sitting in front soaked in degreaser waiting to take its place....

Tomorrow, I hope to get the frame painted and the sterling mounted. Then its time to tear down the front!

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Cage changed the shock mount?

yes they did, my '78 has this style, while my '89 has the older one
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Wow, everything seemed to go wrong today....My new paint gun came broken out of the box, and everything I tried to do required some nut or socket that I magically didnt have. Oh well, hopefully tomorrow will be a better day....

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Well, today was basically an ass load of grinding and prep. I actually got a little done though.....

Heres everything in the rear cleaned up, primed, and ready for painting....




The only advise I have is invest in some good paint brushes, and wear pants when cleaning everything with a wire brush, hehehe.

More to follow!!!!

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You mean you didnt take the springs apart and prime each leaf separately?




If those are old springs then i would take this opportunity to change the center pins, even if theyre only a couple years old. Once mud gets in there, they start to rust fast.
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