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well, I have been through a handful of trails with no probs yet. So its been maybe 8 months so far, but its not a DD

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Ive blown around 3-8.8 axles (Spider gears) and finally found a rear Dana 70-u from a 80ish f-350 2wd. Paid like 120 bucks for it. Rebuild it with new gears for around 350 bucks with brakes. It bolted right in. Great swap for rears. Stops on a dime too.
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Would a D70 from a duallie be too narrow for my 80 Bronco?
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hey guys, i have a 79 bronco and i have a limited slip rear end. i'm putting on a 4inch skyjacker lift kit with new rear springs. i plan to put a 460 some day (money permitting) but being in college right now kinda makes that hard. even when i'm working full time. anyways. i was thinking of putting a locker in the rear end, but i think i might just stick with the limited slip. i can get it rebuilt here. what do you guys think? what would be better for riding in the dunes up here in michigan? can the limited slip hold its one compared to the locker? i'm not a hardcore wheeler. i want to keep my bronco looking orginal but with big tires and lift of course! i'm just wondering what would be best for my rear axle. any info would help. thank you very much.
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There is now an ARB available for the 14B rear. One more thing that the GM haters are loving right now.
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also as i found out this weekend when swapping sterlings- going from 3.55 -4.10's i found out that the pinion yoke on a f-250 sterling is made for a smaller u-joint, than the f-350 one, which sucks cause now i gotta buy another expensize conversion u-joint.

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Dana 60 Rear End

Pros
  • Some 35 spline
Cons
  • Some 16 Spline
  • 3/4 ton? 1 ton? Who the Hell Knows
I've a list of ALL published BOM's by Spicer, from 1967 to 2002 they have 717 different BOM's for Just "Ford Dana 60 rear" axles.

For FORD ONLY Semi Floating Dana 60 axles have 35 spline. (Edit: there are Semi Floating with 30 splines)

No Full Floater ever came with 35 spline in a Ford, and very few at that FF 35 spline 60's are out there (less than 1%)


Here are All the different axle shaft and spline counts:

Shaft RH Shaft LH Spline count Length Manufacturer Model Location
35887-1 35887-2 Not Documented ? Ford 60 Rear
30282 30282 16 Spline 33.7" +-2 Ford 60 Rear
35445-1 35445-1 16 Spline 33.25 Ford 60 Rear
35445-2 35445-2 16 Spline 34.56 Ford 60 Rear
24810X 24810X 30 Spline Semi-Float 29.53" Ford 60 Rear
25984-1X 25984-1X 30 Spline Semi-Float 29.53" Ford 60 Rear
35467-1 35467-2 30 Spline 31.12 / 40.12 Ford 60 Rear
35467-3 35467-3 30 Spline 34.56" Ford 60 Rear
35467-4 35467-5 30 Spline 35.95 / 44.57 Ford 60 Rear
35467-6 35467-6 30 Spline 33.25 Ford 60 Rear
43811-16 43811-17 32 Spline 34.92 / 37.64 Ford 60 Rear
70867-15X 70867-16X 35 Spline Semi-Float 30.66 / 33.2 Ford 60 Rear
70867-1X 70867-2X 35 Spline Semi-Float 30.65 / 33.19 Ford 60 Rear
70867-3X 70867-4X 35 Spline Semi-Float 31.42 / 34.14 Ford 60 Rear
70867-5X 70867-6X 35 Spline Semi-Float 30.66 / 33.20 Ford 60 Rear
75344-1X 75344-2X 35 Spline Semi-Float 30.41 / 34.13 Ford 60 Rear


Who knows? I know

Edit: if your looking for a No-Spin or high factory gears stick to 67-74 Dana 60's.

My notes on Dana 44 and other Dana axles -> http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html
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I've a list of ALL published BOM's by Spicer, from 1967 to 2002 they have 717 different BOM's for Dana 60 axles.

For FORD ONLY Semi Floating Dana 60 axles have 35 spline.

No Full Floater ever came with 35 spline in a Ford, and very few at that (less than 1%)
But the after market offers a lot of carrier options for 35 spline axles.

Wasn't there some years that had the PowrLok option in the semiFloat D60s in the late 60s and early 70s?

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But the after market offers a lot of carrier options for 35 spline axles.

Wasn't there some years that had the PowrLok option in the semiFloat D60s in the late 60s and early 70s?
Yeah, maybe next year I'll try to figure which Dana 60's came with the larger spindle to fit the 35 splines. (Most need to be opened up and not a easy job)


Yep, Didn't include that above. (Fixed)

60's and 70's Semi floating 60's
http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/images...mifloating.gif

My notes on Dana 44 and other Dana axles -> http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html
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I've a list of ALL published BOM's by Spicer, from 1967 to 2002 they have 717 different BOM's for Just "Ford Dana 60 rear" axles.

For FORD ONLY Semi Floating Dana 60 axles have 35 spline. (Edit: there are Semi Floating with 30 splines)

No Full Floater ever came with 35 spline in a Ford, and very few at that FF 35 spline 60's are out there (less than 1%)

Who knows? I know

good shit. thanks for adding that. just another reason not to get a dana 60.
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Been researching rears as I'm about to swap and found this ID guide for all makes of dana. Hope it helps others as it's helped me...
http://www.onandoffroad4wheeldrive.c...axle_ident.htm

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Been researching rears as I'm about to swap and found this ID guide for all makes of dana. Hope it helps others as it's helped me...
http://www.onandoffroad4wheeldrive.c...axle_ident.htm
yes, 'cept it's not complete. My D60 BOM was not listed there. I took my number to six states distributors who confirmed it was from a 1977.5 Ford F250 2WD

On another note, the item of interest with Mr. N's stuff, in my opinion, is not so much the spline count (if you want a D60 fullfloat, go find one with 30 splines, cuz other than that, all you're gonna find are D60 from older trucks...say before 1975 or thereabouts...that are 16 spline) but this:

35467-3 35467-3 30 Spline 34.56" Ford 60 Rear

That entry appears to be the length of my shafts, measured from the shaft bolt mounting surface to end of splines. Notice there is no left/right length. I only carry 1 spare shaft.

also on a side note, if folks are concerned with braking these shafts, a possible upgrade is to buy the alloy shafts. I've seen several places sellem for $175.

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No Full Floater ever came with 35 spline in a Ford, and very few at that FF 35 spline 60's are out there (less than 1%)


Here are All the different axle shaft and spline counts:

Shaft RH Shaft LH Spline count Length Manufacturer Model Location
43811-16 43811-17 32 Spline 34.92 / 37.64 Ford 60 Rear
Ok, after trying to find a way to figure out which Dana 60 axle came with the larger spindle (so 35 spline axle could be swapped in) I gave up. Spicer doesn't list the the part number to check in my spicer info.

However I've this list of what Dana full floating 60 axles are non-30-spline.
I searched all 1970-1999 Ford, Dodge, Chevy, and Jeep.

BOM axle shaft # . . . Spline . . Lenth Bolt circle Bolt #'s Make Year, Model - Dana 60 Full Floating non 30 spline.
603884 36453-1 . . . . . 35 . . . 39.69" 3.56 8 Chevy 78 G 300 Van w/ 164" Wheel base
603545 36453-1 . . . . . 35 . . . 39.69" 3.56 8 Chevy 1975 G 300 Van w/ 164" Wheel base
603702 36453-1 . . . . . 35 . . . 39.69" 3.56 8 Chevy 1976 G 300 Van w/ 164" Wheel base
603398 36453-1 . . . . . 35 . . . 39.69" 3.56 8 Chevy 1973 G 300 Van w/ 125" Wheel base
603475 36453-1 . . . . . 35 . . . 39.69" 3.56 8 Chevy 1974 G 300 Van w/ 125" Wheel base
603560 36453-1 . . . . . 35 . . . 39.69" 3.56 8 Chevy 1975 G 300 Van w/ 125" Wheel base
603705 36453-1 . . . . . 35 . . . 39.69" 3.56 8 Chevy 1976-78 G 300 Van w/ 125" Wheel base
All Vans 41100-1 . . . . . 35 . . . 39.69" 3.56 8 Chevy 1979-1991.5 All Chevy vans with Dana 60
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605685 43811-16 & 17 . 32 . . . 34.92 & 37.64 3.96 8 Ford 1995-96 E350 Van SRW -ABS (Not all Vans)
605843 43811-16 & 17 . 32 . . . 34.92 & 37.64 3.96 8 Ford 1996 E350 Van SRW -ABS (Not all Vans)
605935 43811-16 & 17 . 32 . . . 34.92 & 37.64 3.96 8 Ford 1996.5 E350 Van SRW -ABS (Not all Vans)
605948 43811-16 & 17 . 32 . . . 34.92 & 37.64 3.96 8 Ford 1997.5 E350 Van SRW -ABS (Not all Vans)
606162 43811-16 & 17 . 32 . . . 34.92 & 37.64 3.96 8 Ford 1998.5-99 E350 Van SRW -ABS (Not all Vans)

Not all Vans= Those years came with both 30 & 32 spline shaft, check the BOM. Note 1999 does list as only 32 spline but info might have been left out and correct next book by Spicer.
Note: Even though the SPicer list all Chevy Vans from1979-1991.5 with 35 spline, this could be a typo!

My notes on Dana 44 and other Dana axles -> http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html
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That chart only had 60's and 70's info.


Here is my new one from 1967-2002! (All Spicer info, nothing more nothing less)


My notes on Dana 44 and other Dana axles -> http://77cj.littlekeylime.com/web_rs44.html
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Mr. N,

Out of curiosity, I see in the chart that the Ford semifloat 60s from 67-69 had 30 spline axles. Is that correct? I see reference to 16 spline ones from time to time.

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Mr. N,

Out of curiosity, I see in the chart that the Ford semifloat 60s from 67-69 had 30 spline axles. Is that correct? I see reference to 16 spline ones from time to time.
Spicer is not always 100% correct... so...

However I've two source that say my info above is correct. (Minus the 67-68 Chevy stuff...) So I;d say yes, it's 30 spline. Pre 67 I'm sure there is, but I've no info on pre 67 Spicer...


Now the Full Floater had 16 splines up to 1975!
(Hint for you axle hunters, they were under the 2wd version more often.
BUT not all 2wd were 16 spline, and a few 4x4 version also had the 16 spline. There was even a No-SPin 16 spline from 73-75! But now I'm getting off topic...)

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Thumbs up Sterling 10.25 and 10.5

Not all sterling rear ends are full float, they also come in semi float as well. The most expensive part of doing a sterling swap is having the drive line motified to fit, other wise it's a simple bolt in. I've had my Sterling 10.5" in my 89 Bronco for about a a year and a half and have had no problems. The only issue I can for see with it is gearing choices for the moment. If my memory serves me correctly 4.56 is the lowest so far. Happy swapping.
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