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Is the high lift bolted on?
Yes, one bolt on the foot plate and one behind the tire in the center tube.

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Doesn't that make it difficult to access when you need it? Why not make it hold itself on by jacking it out against some stops? Then you could release it without tools, other than the jack handle.
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Doesn't that make it difficult to access when you need it? Why not make it hold itself on by jacking it out against some stops? Then you could release it without tools, other than the jack handle.
Not sure what the answer is in this case. If you make it too eazy, it may get stolen. A high lift is a lot more in demand then shackles.

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...but not as easy to stash as you walk through a parking lot with it, and not as apparent how to remove from its mount. A padlock would be easier to install for mall-crawling & remove at the trailhead than bolts.
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Doesn't that make it difficult to access when you need it? Why not make it hold itself on by jacking it out against some stops? Then you could release it without tools, other than the jack handle.
That's a good ideal Steve, but I think over time it would lose it's friction by stretching the stops out. The jack is easy to access with the swing arm open.

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Not sure what the answer is in this case. If you make it too eazy, it may get stolen. A high lift is a lot more in demand then shackles.
I going to drill a hole through the top bolt for a lock. To keep it from getting stolen.

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Best solution for both is to use a wheel stud with a wheel lock nut. To keep someone from using something like a pair of vice grips or a hammer on the lock, just use a piece of tubing to surround the lock.
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...it would lose it's friction...
It wouldn't hold by friction; it would mechanically interlock. A couple of thin rubber pads would keep it from rattling.
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...stretching the stops out.
Only if you make the stops too weak.
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Best solution for both is to use a wheel stud with a wheel lock nut. To keep someone from using something like a pair of vice grips or a hammer on the lock, just use a piece of tubing to surround the lock.
This is another good idea, I'm not to concerned there's not a high demand on hi-lift jacks in my area. I think it would be over kill for a Toyota, Honda or any other foreign junk cars running around here.

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It wouldn't hold by friction; it would mechanically interlock. A couple of thin rubber pads would keep it from rattling.Only if you make the stops too weak.
Yes, mechanically interlock jack out to stops and held in place by pressure? I still think it would loosen up. There is one rubber pad to keep it from rattling on the center tubes bolt.

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It wouldn't hold by friction; it would mechanically interlock. A couple of thin rubber pads would keep it from rattling.Only if you make the stops too weak.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm thinking a high lift put between two immovable stops will not be able to get tight. It has to go alittle past a distance and then back down abit. If you have two immovable stops, it won't be able to go past the stop. If it can go past, it will back down to a lose spot.

If you put a thick piece of rubber on the stop, it could get tight. But only the rubber would be holding it. I don't like that on something that heavy.

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You're assuming the stops are rigid. They can be 1) immovable, 2) strong, but 3) flexible enough to allow the jack to work & hold tight. Think about an old valve spring mounted around a short tube... Other small parts of the structure could hold the jack centered on the spring.

But if he's happy with the bolts...
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The idea of using a valve spring sounds like a good idea. Design whatever stop you want for the top of the valve spring. It will need a rod inside the valve spring to keep it in place when you remove the jack. You get a lot of travel with a non compressed valve spring. Use an old retainer for the base of the stop.
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You're assuming the stops are rigid. They can be 1) immovable, 2) strong, but 3) flexible enough to allow the jack to work & hold tight. Think about an old valve spring mounted around a short tube... Other small parts of the structure could hold the jack centered on the spring.

But if he's happy with the bolts...
OK Steve, I can see a valve spring working with a center pin. The spring would hold the pressure and the pin would be the retainer. That's a good ideal also now that you added a spring in it. and yes I'm happy with the bolts.

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Nice looking bumper! I'm going build custom bumpers for mine.... Someday!!
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Just read through this...great looking bumper. Beefy!
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I built a new bumper for my 95 I had just pic up a few months back.


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Looks nice. Are you starting with a piece of angle or tube? (The main bumper) How are you curving the ends?

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Looks nice. Are you starting with a piece of angle or tube? (The main bumper) How are you curving the ends?
Thanks, I started with 1/4" plate.







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