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One thing to think about when your getting alot of water in the lines. The air coming out of the compressor is typically HOT, and saturated with water. As most may know, the hotter the air is, the more water it will hold (to a point). As the air cools, the water vapor drops out as condensate. When you de-pressurize a pressurized container, the air going thru whatever line your using cools very quickly, causing the moisture to drop out as condensate. This is why you get alot of water coming out of the end of a 25 ' line. The air has a good length of hose to cool in and let the water condense.

So in order to optimize this effect to your advantage, I would suggest taking a 25' section of hose and coil it up neatly somehow. Then connect the end to something like this......




You can make that from parts at lowes/home depot for about $40, then choose your own manifold pieces or just put a valve on the end to connect to your hose reel. The first section will catch the majority of water and it can be easily drained.

You can also add a automatic drain valve as seen in this diagram.

I can't seem to make this system for less then $100 from Lowes or HD...



I did put a drain in, much nicer lifting a little lever than fiddling with a rusted screw.

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I can't seem to make this system for less then $100 from Lowes or HD...



I did put a drain in, much nicer lifting a little lever than fiddling with a rusted screw.

Now you know why I don't have one. I use mainly impacts and blow guns so a tiny bit of water in the line isn't a big deal for me. When I get my main compressor hooked back up I'm gonna get an automatic drain valve, I think the best way to keep the water out of the lines is to keep it out of the tank. That said the 26hp craftsman oilless I got not long ago has water buildup issues like crazy, it blows out of the air nozzle it's so bad. If/when I get my little portable compressor going it may get an automatic unloader too. They're only $10. The only reason I haven't already done it is because I was worried about breaking it off the tank as my main compressor is a portable unit.

Honestly I would go with HF for the regulator, filter,drain valves, ect. Then get just the iron pipe for the drain loop from HD. I've never had issues with HF compressed air components other than having them wear out, you'll pay more for literally the same thing at HD.

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I bit the bullet and went ahead and built the system Jowens posted.





two 10 feet air hose, Filter, regulator, and oil lubricator. I need to get a few more things - pipe, one more valve, a in-line filter, these are for the NON-Oil tools and will be a separate section.

Got it mostly put together tonight.





Thanks for all the advice here!!


I do want to say this was no under $100 setup though .........
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You know, I was actually just thinking about this. Instead of a big metal drop tube you could use a small JY A/C condenser, just mount it up high, then run your water separator and filters underneith it. It would actually work better for collecting water than the pipe and be cheaper too. I notice you used 1/2 pipe which no doubt increased the cost substantially. Kinda wondering why. The chances of you ever trying to use that compressor for anything that requires the airflow capacity of 1/2" line is slim to none. Even if you did I would question the compressor's ability to keep up. I think eventually I will do a nice setup, I'll probably use An ac condenser, 1/4" water/oil separators and filters. My compressor only has a 1/4" output fitting, 1/2" line won't help at all.

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I have 3/8 hose, fittings, etc... lowes only had 1/2 pipe at this length. The only 3/8 pipe was only 6 inches. I would had to connected 5 together to make these 30 inch pipes.

I am hoping to tie in another tank later on after we move and the new Garage is complete... shhh I havent said anything about this yet....
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I have 3/8 hose, fittings, etc... lowes only had 1/2 pipe at this length. The only 3/8 pipe was only 6 inches. I would had to connected 5 together to make these 30 inch pipes.

I am hoping to tie in another tank later on after we move and the new Garage is complete... shhh I havent said anything about this yet....
See there you go spending money on toys again salt. The misses is gonna hate you.

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$40 might have been a low estimate but it was just for the pipe and fittings. Im sure it will work out great for you though! Looks like a nice setup.

1/2" is what you needed anyway. If you try to go smaller it will restrict the flow and you might not get the best performance from your air tools. Especially if you ever do any blasting. Blasting requires as much air as you can throw at it.

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Is this the oiler on the left (last thing hooked up)?

If so, you might want to put that on a dedicated air tool leg. Not everything requires oil in the line, and in fact some things wont work right with oil in the lines. I prefer not to contaminate my hoses with oil as I do alot of bead blasting, and oil in the line is the last thing you want doing that.

I actually prefer a smaller form factor oiler like this that I attach directly to the air tool ....



for most tools, i just squirt some oil down the spout before I connect it.

While were talking oil. Dont forget to change your compressor oil OFTEN! I will drain it and replace the oil anytime I think im not going to use it for a while. But at least once a month during regular use. It gets BLACK FAST! If its really black I will change it, run it for 15-20 mins, then change it again.

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two 10 feet air hose, Filter, regulator, and oil lubricator. I need to get a few more things - pipe, one more valve, a in-line filter, these are for the NON-Oil tools and will be a separate section.



The last thing on the left before hitting my hose Reel/impact tools is a lubricator yes. But I will be adding a section for the NON-Oiled tools and a cut off valve before the lubricator. That is why you see a fitting before the lubricator too.
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just didnt want you to contaminate your hose reel with oil.

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just didnt want you to contaminate your hose reel with oil.
oh ok I got ya. I have a separate 50' hose I will hook up when I need the NON-Oiled tools. I only have a blaster that would be used and probably not much.
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Finished the setup today









separate cut off valve before the lubricator and a hose fitting before the cut off. I have a 50' hose I will use just for NON-Oiled tools.

This weekend I am going to try to get to the store and buy some plywood to hang this on the wall.
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I just pour some oil in the fittings of my tools every so often. When I remember. An inline lubricator isn't something I ever considered. I use the blow gun often and I don't want any oil in it.
One of the guys at the dealership said he never oiled his tools, they had to have been 15-20 years old too.

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I just pour some oil in the fittings of my tools every so often. When I remember. An inline lubricator isn't something I ever considered. I use the blow gun often and I don't want any oil in it.
One of the guys at the dealership said he never oiled his tools, they had to have been 15-20 years old too.
I think it really goes like the saying "they don't make them like they use to" My dad's 35 year old air tools I never oiled and never had a problem But they are nice MAC tools made in USA.

Now with everything made in China you can never be too careful..

But again I have a dry line and the air nozzle will be one of the tools that uses it. I might even have to get another Reel and label the two "Lubed" and "Dry"
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I love the inline oiler. I never oil my tools, yet they magically get oiled every time i use them.

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I love the inline oiler. I never oil my tools, yet they magically get oiled every time i use them.
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Since this is now our little compressor thread I figured I'd post this stuff here, also I wanna show off my new toy.

I Originally wanted to add HF auto drains to both of my compressors but after reading that they were cheap junk I decided to go with these.

They're tethered drain valves, the same style used on semis. When the stem is pulled sideways they open and allow the compressor to drain.
When the original drain valve on my 33 gallon Craftsman became rusty and bent I replaced it with this cheapo From HF. It got beat up again and began to slowly leak, I just let it leak because it was such a pain to deal with. Now I finally have something to replace it with. You can see where its been leaking. Crusty!

New tether drain valve.

I ran the cable up to the top and tied it off where it will be easy to get to, I'll just give it a pull when I turn the compressor on or off.

Now I just gotta figure out why it likes to randomly blow the 20 amp breaker when it starts.
Fun little fact, when I drained all the air out I found out my gauges read about 20-30 psi high.

New drain valve Installed on the 4 gallon craftsman; my new toy. The tether is pretty long so I wrapped it around the tanks. Just pull on the cord and the valve opens and lets any moisture out.

Swapped on a Cambell Hausfeld pressure gauge from a tiny burned out compressor I have. No more leak!

Now I'm just trying to decide if I should make it look nice or put stickers on it. I think a "stupid hurts" sticker would fit nicely.

I keep wanting to call it "mini me", since its just a smaller Craftsman.

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no details on the neat-o little drain valve's? you're holding out on us man!
looks way easier to use and setup than the pipe and extended drain valve situation.

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