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393 stroker

Just got 33's next to exhaust then new engine.. The truck leaks oil and low-ish compression at least not what it should be stock, I'm not looking for a super crazy street/off road toy but maybe quick... For a bronco at least ...I might buy a block off of eBay... Anyone have any expirence with that? I've been looking at the eagle kit and it seems good and a lot of people go with that from what I can tell. But the real question is if I can do this budget but also quality and reliability are a factor, this will be a road trip/DD truck, so mpg is a factor. Hoping to throw
less then 2500$ to get this motor INTO the truck.. I know its a long shot and thanks for any advice..
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Need to at least double your budget. Especially if the bronco you are working with is a 92.
I do think you could maybe build a 393w for 2500 but its the things needed to support that, that are why I say you need to at the least double your budget.
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Trans rebuild asap once I can get the money.. Hopefully I can keep my foot off the pedal until trans is built!! But what other supporting mods are you thinking of im kinda a noob.. First engine build.. I know I'll need new rocker arms but no clue lenghth or anything.. Should I just get new heads? stock cam is fine but something better would be nice I would like to keep the low end toque since I tow a bass boat and every now and then a go fast car for a friend.
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MAF conversion, intake manifold, camshaft, timing chain, injectors and some decent heads. But all that is already past budget.
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Add in machine work and you might even be in the ballpark of tripling your budget.

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You can use 302 pistons for a 393 if the crank is a stroker crank right? If that's the case can I use the rods from a 351 I bought, buy a new crank and 302 pistons, do the machining and have a 393 with the stock heads and cam and intake manifold? How much HP will that make? I don't want anything over 400 HP just for reliability and mileage.
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Keep in mind you are going to have to tune that stroker so you aren't running lean. Or, possibly get injectors that are more than the stock 19lbs of pressure. Not sure.

My advice to you would be a nice cam, .30 or .40 over block, edelbrock plenum and intake, headers. If you have some of these items already, disregard.

I was well into over 6k with my stroker build. Minus the tuning. It brought nothing but issues, and, it wasn't my first rebuild.

Course, everyone's experience and ways are different. I also attempted this about 7 years ago. Maybe there are better methods now.

I hope it all works for you.

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What about a 357 I heard they are very cheap compared to a 393, would 260-300hp and 400 tq be possible
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Performance Pistons rods
Gt40 head
Towing cam EFI
Maf conversion
Hooker headers
2.5 exhaust
24lb injectors (Do I even need them?)
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Doesn't sound too bad. I would just avoid having to tune . Tranny or ECM. Don't think you would need the 24lbs. You would probably need an adjustable Fuel pressure regulator too. I would still advise an aftermarket intake and plenum.

There are plenty others in here with a lot more experience that will hopefully chime in with some advice.

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That combo, with those goals in mind I think would be totally do-able. Depending on cam I think the 19lb injectors would be ok, assuming you were not running it up in the RPM's all the time.
24's would give you some head room should you change things up later though.
Once you have completed the MAF swap, you will be able to do things in the future as well so it maybe some money now but will save you from having to spend it later.
I feel those parts you mentioned would be a good warmed up motor, while still keeping it very street friendly and reliable.


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So what about a 357? Would it be as easy as new pistons and cam,new gaskets and bearings? And keeping the rest stock? Its not going to be beat on to much so the arms and crank should be fine right? Just a high school student on a part time job budget..
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What about a 357 I heard they are very cheap compared to a 393, would 260-300hp and 400 tq be possible
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.30 overbore
Performance Pistons rods
Gt40 head
Towing cam EFI
Maf conversion
Hooker headers
2.5 exhaust
24lb injectors (Do I even need them?)
This list is similar to what I am building:
-used 351 $150
-short block work $3500
-Machining .060 over
-New oil pan
-New oil pump
-New balancer
-New Cam
-New Pistons ($450)
-Assembly and paint
-Eddy plentum about $380
-Speedmaster lower intake $180

That's $4200.
I have GT40 head on my 302 that I am transfering to the 351 that cost $225 plus $100 to have a valve replaced. I have about $250 into a JY MAF swap.
That's another 575.
Figure in some other odds and ends and shop supplies I should easily be at $5000.

Just to give you some numbers to compare to.

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I wouldn't bore .060 over unless I had to. If I had too, I'd probably look for another block. Probably no problems but just me.

If money could allow I'd look on Corral.net classifieds and some other places. You may be able to find better aluminum heads than the cast GT40s for not much more money. If you are able to be semi patient especially. Just don't snooze and lose. lol

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I had to go 60 over because of a score in one of the cylinders. I only wanted to go 30.

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Ooh .060 is some thin walls, past .040 I am looking for a new block. Did you have it bored yet? You could sleeve the one bad cylinder and punch them all .040.
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I had to go 60 over because of a score in one of the cylinders. I only wanted to go 30.

Honestly, you probably will be fine, if you are already committed since this should be a lower rpm project than a strip engine. But, if not already committed (purchased block, machine work, etc.) you might could consider other avenues.

Good luck, I remember how exciting and frustrating having mine built was. I did conclude that I could have purchased a high quality shortblock from someplace like CHP or Ford Strokers (although this option would have been higher) for close to the same money. The "Crate" shortblock would have had more and better machine work and a lighter and better rotating assembly. But, I had already purchased a donor truck for the engine and transmission. I had a separate donor for interior color change and wiring harnesses. Of course this truck also had donor transmission, just a slightly older version. Oh well, it is only money. lol
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I havent bought the block yet, but what do yall think the machining is gunna cost me? Hoping its not ridiculous, maybe 500?
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You're looking over $1000 easily. v8 takes more time/work to machine than my inline and it was $1200 for mine.
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I havent bought the block yet, but what do yall think the machining is gunna cost me? Hoping its not ridiculous, maybe 500?
Yeah you could get a V8 block tanked, magnafluxed and bored for about 400 bucks. Then throw a stroker kit in for another 12-1500_

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Not really looking to buy a stroker kit, just looking to buy a fully stock block and re-using crank and piston arms
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