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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old 09-22-2004, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
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Question 351W for a 79?

Has anyone ever stuck a 351W in their 78-79 bronco? if so, what would i have need to do this?

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New motor mounts, new brackets for accessories, new transmission or trans adapter.
If it were EFI then you have to do all that swappin too.

I am sure there is something I have forgot.
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windsors suck, why would you want one?

but yeah, you would need alot of stuff. and stuff you cant buy. headers would be tough, would prob have to use manifolds. motor mounts, trans, etc like listed above.
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Umm I think he was drunk when he had that ideal. Go 460!

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LOL yeah maybe i was drunk. no, i dunno, it was just a thought about a windsor since my block is tore up. i dont really wanna do a 460 swap although that would be awesome. anyone got any M blocks laying around?

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anyone got any M blocks laying around?
My parts truck had a 351M/400. I don't think its any good, sounded like it had spun a bearing and its just been sitting...but if you wanna mess with it, I'll see what dad says - like if its worth coming to get.

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I've got both a 400 and a 351 in east tn. They both need head gaskets. $50 for the 351 and $75 for the 400 if you pull. Add $75 and I'll pull and have it ready for ya.

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windsors suck, why would you want one?

but yeah, you would need alot of stuff. and stuff you cant buy. headers would be tough, would prob have to use manifolds. motor mounts, trans, etc like listed above.
Couldn't you use headers for a F-150 4x4 302?

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"Couldn't you use headers for a F-150 4x4 302?"

Good luck finding some.

Ford didn't put the 302 in a 78-79 bronco or a 70s 4X4, i don't even think they put them in 4X2 F250s and 4X2 F350s either. I have never even heard of a F250 or F350 with a 302 VIN code.
The 351W has a 1.3" taller deck and that could cause clearance issues with "F150 4X4 302 headers".
Incase you're wondering why ford didn't put the 302 in 4x4 in the 70s. It is because ford had motors that would do the job better like the 300I6, 360, 390, 351M, and 400.
In the 80s and 90s ford only built four engines 300I6, 302, 351W, and 460 so they didn't have much choice.
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Raised from the dead thread pile, cause I searched and
had to read this trash.
So some one wanted to know about the above swap,
and didnt really get an answer.

Which is a reasonable question , as the 351W is a common engine,
a dime a dozen.
First thing is motor mounts will be changed if not fabricated, or frame mounts moved and then
the pre-"M" series C-6 will have to be ditched for a Windsor series C-6 bell housing. (I beleive) So the trans mounts will have to be changed.
Some one who has done this should dump a link in here on the match up at least to get things started. Thanks.

Im thinking of doing this with a 85 Windsor too a 1979 Bronco, and maybe ill come back to fill in some blanks.
Right now im moving on to find a 460 answer. "Cheers"


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i thought the 79 came with a 351/400m ?



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i thought the 79 came with a 351/400m ?
It did, but the two different 351's that it was offered with were the 351C, and the 351M. The 351W wasn't an option in 78-79 Broncos.
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[QUOTE=SquattyD;343958]windsors suck, why would you want one?QUOTE]

There are many more performance parts for windsors than M's. Not to mention the windsors have better heads and are a lighter motor. They also make a dang good race engine (http://www.badasscars.com/engines.html). They were able to provide me with plenty of info on the M vs. W engines.

I checked into this while deciding on what to do with my 79 build. The windsor is cheaper to build peformance into. However I decided on a going the 429 route so I havent researched what all is needed to swap in a windsor.
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i thought the 79 came with a 351/400m ?
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It did, but the two different 351's that it was offered with were the 351C, and the 351M. The 351W wasn't an option in 78-79 Broncos.

Neither was a 351C, only a 351M.
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Do a google search for the Moss brothers. They race a 78/79 with 351W or search www.thewebwheeler.com they have a forum just for the Moss brothers.
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New motor mounts, new brackets for accessories, new transmission or trans adapter.
If it were EFI then you have to do all that swappin too.

I am sure there is something I have forgot.

you pretty much got it really. Me and my friend took a 315W out of an 86' bronco and put it in his 79 f-150. We used the motor mounts, the bell housing, all the accessorie brackets, and exhause manifolds off of the 86. then it went together pretty easy

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windsors suck, why would you want one?QUOTE]

There are many more performance parts for windsors than M's. Not to mention the windsors have better heads and are a lighter motor.
I would think that the Cleaveland style heads are better than the windsors.
They have canted valves and are used more often, when given the choice, for building high horse power circle-track engines.
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Hahaha!!! Didn't even notice this thread was 3 years old...
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Hahaha!!! Didn't even notice this thread was 3 years old...
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