View Full Version : Sand Paddles....


Archer66
08-12-2007, 11:21 PM
I've been thinking of either buying or having a set of paddles built for my Bronc. We spend more and more time in the dunes and I'm thinking I would be able to run 2wd all (most) the time and save the front from some abuse.

Have any of you guys got any thoughts on either a good paddle around 35-37in dia at the paddles x 14 or so wide?

If I'm going to have a set made what carcass would work best for a 5700lb bronc? Ive got a set of 35 x 12.5 BFG Mt's I was thinking of having buffed and paddled.

Any Thoughts??

steveG
08-13-2007, 01:21 AM
Thoughts...?

You're going to need A TON of horsepower to motivate 35"-37" paddles.

I play mostly on sand as well and I've never felt the need for paddles. What do you air down to?

mda
08-13-2007, 12:01 PM
These have always worked well in sand.

http://www.dickcepek.com/FC_Kevlar.html

crawler
08-13-2007, 01:23 PM
robby gordon has 37" projects ground down and scat trac paddles vulcanized on them but he also has about 800 hp

Archer66
08-13-2007, 01:24 PM
Thoughts...?

You're going to need A TON of horsepower to motivate 35"-37" paddles.

I play mostly on sand as well and I've never felt the need for paddles. What do you air down to?

I'm running well over 500 HP and a couple of ft/lbs of torque... so that part of it should be handled. Perhaps a shorter paddle and something like a desert-trac up front matched up would work better and still clear the fenders well when jumping. I'm going to set up some adj. hyd bump stops as part of my next suspension upgrade.

I have been running between 8-10 psi which lays the side walls out fairly well. 12 was too much and bellow 8psi I worry about side wall pinch when air born and peeling em off without bead locks.

These have always worked well in sand.

mda- Thanks, I am aware of the fun countries and how well they work I have a friend who has run them for years. I am running Good Year MTR's now, 37 x 12.5. I'm just looking for something a step beyond these.

Archer66
08-13-2007, 01:50 PM
robby gordon has 37" projects ground down and scat trac paddles vulcanized on them but he also has about 800 hp

I did a quick google and am not seeing anything regarding "Projects"
What can you tell me about the tire?

I'm looking at going that route (grind and vulcanize) I know scat trac will do them and Oregon Motorsports up here also does custom paddles. My question is more about what is the best carcass to start with. I have access to some circle track slicks that should have a good flexy side wall and be fairly light but I have questions about the weight of the rig with these.

steveG
08-13-2007, 02:25 PM
I think a Project would be one of the worst tires to start with (unless you're launching it Robby Gordon style). It's a great desert tire, but not so good in the sand. The sidewalls are super-stiff and they just don't flex like you want them to.

I think you'd be better off with an off-the-shelf BFG or whatever brand you prefer. I don't know what Scat-trac recommends, but it seems to me that using a new (or close to it) tire would be ideal. Tires start to break down as soon as they're made, so if you use some old worn out tires they may not last as long as they could.

Bob G
08-13-2007, 03:00 PM
what about those firestone agriculture shit spreader tires? those are wide and have some sort of paddle, goodyear also used to make some, people with Jeeps in the 70's were running for the sand

Archer66
08-13-2007, 11:12 PM
what about those firestone agriculture shit spreader tires? those are wide and have some sort of paddle, goodyear also used to make some, people with Jeeps in the 70's were running for the sand

As I remember those are monster truck size... plenty of flotation I guess.

ghglenn
08-13-2007, 11:34 PM
O.K. here are a few suggestions. I've been going to Glamis for over 27 years and have seen many different paddle set-ups. Archer, you need to go with smaller tires, ground clearance is not an issue in sand, it's all about wheel spin, topend hp. I would say 35" is max. I would even consider 33" tires. Remember, the paddle is gonna be at least 3" tall, thus, your 33" tire is much larger in diameter with the paddles on it. Also, more wheel travel between the sheet metal is nice, when hittin whoops or jumpin a little. Do a google search for "Glamis Sand Dunes" and you will find webites with links to manufacturers of paddles i.e. skat-trak. The carcass style tires are usually lighter than molded but can "throw" paddles if your on the gas in "hard packed sand. Also try "Sand Sport Magazine" as a search and see what you come up with. Once you find the tires you think are right for you, contact the manufacturer and talk to a tech about your application, Bronco, and see what they suggest. If you need any more help just P.M. me. :thumbup

P.S. I am gonna build my 79 to real similar to your set-up, your bronco is sick.

Good luck,

Glenn

ghglenn
08-13-2007, 11:45 PM
Here's a few links... http://www.funrunr.com/sandtires.htm


http://www.sandtiresunlimited.com/sandtire1.html#1650


http://www.skat-trak.com/paddletire.html

Archer66
08-14-2007, 12:31 AM
Here's a few links... http://www.funrunr.com/sandtires.htm


http://www.sandtiresunlimited.com/sandtire1.html#1650


http://www.skat-trak.com/paddletire.html

Thanks ghglenn, great info. And thanks for the props on the Bronc, it's a long way from being where I ultimately want it, but it's get'n better.