Anyone wanna suggest some mufflers for the 429? I *thought* we were going next week to get true duals with some 40 series Flows, but dad's out there right now "fixing" the ghetto exhaust they rigged up with the cherry bombs and he told my brother "that'll hold 'er over for another month or so."

I told him I'd give him $350 to help with the exhaust because he told me it would cost close to $500 for the setup he wanted. He thought I was gonna pay for the whole thing, but $500 is all I have, I'm not using all my food and gas money on exhaust, and I need new clothes for starting school in March.

ANYHOW...those 40 series Flows are like $70 a piece, right? The new Super 40s with the Delta Flow technology are $110 I think. I don't know muffler brands other than Flows, and Borla.

Gimme some suggestions for getting an exhaust system for about $400 bucks. I'd like true duals with it coming out behind the rear tire, but I had thought about turn downs either just before or right after the rear end. How much more expensive is 3" pipe over 2.5"??

Oh and I don't want it obnoxiously loud. I wanna hear the cam lope at idle and I wanna get perma-grin from the big block rumble if I romp on it.

That's not too much to ask is it? :toothless :histerica

nothing will beat the flows

but i would make sure the exhiast exits after the rear tires, either at a 90 degree bend or a 45 degree bend

straight out and you will get fumes, dump it at the axles, you will also get fumes, and it will be pretty loud

dumped exhaust never sounds right, sound s out of tune if you will, the tail pipe tunes the exhaust, sound chages with the bends,

look at brass instrument,s you will get the idea, same thing

id say flows, origianal series 40

nothing beats it

oh, and 2 1/2'' duals should be good, be sure to do a cross over pipe or "H" pipe

http://www.exhaustsoundclips.com/

no big block fords, but you get the idea of what some others sound like

Flowmasters are over rated... sorry... but for the money there are equal options... Flowmasters resonate UP through the vehicle... which is cool for about the first hour... then it's just plain annoying on the highway... other brands:

Flowtech: Terminators or Afterburners... Both great mufflers... and about $25 a piece less the Flows, and flow every bit as good. Terminators are known to flow a little better under WOT, I had them on the Mustang and was told they sound more like Roush' setup. Afterburners, about $40 each... ROCK!!! best performance muffler for the buck... If you're looking for pricey, try Ravens... sweet tone at idle, and just plain "YUCK FOO" under hard acceleration... pricey though. Dynamax make some sweet mufflers also, Borla SS series, Flowtech Warlocks if you want "cutouts" hmmmm... I'll have to find the flow and db level test that one of the Peterson mags did...

Hold that thought... ;)

:thumbup

ok... here's the actual shootout data on mufflers... pretty comprehensive list...

MUFFLER SHOOTOUT:

Results based on 5.0 Mustang Magazine December 2002 issue (page 55). Test car is a ’90 Coupe with 370 HP and 11 second potential. A number of 66 pulls were made to compile this information. Where does your muffler stack up?

The results in HP order:

1.Flowtech Warlock (open) 374.2 hp/ 333.1 tq
2.Bassani Real Street 373.7 hp/ 333.8 tq
3.Hooker Maxflow 373.5 hp/ 333 tq
4.Borla XS 373.3 hp/ 332.6 tq
5.Magnaflow 372.8 / 332.5 tq
6.MAC 372.3 hp / 331.5 tq
7.Flowtech Afterburner 372.3 hp/ 330.1 tq
8.Hooker Aerochamber 372.1 hp/ 330.4 tq
9.Bassani 372 hp/ 333.5 tq
10.Spintech 371.6 hp/ 332.2 tq
11.Edelbrock Performer RPM 370.9 hp / 331.3 tq
12.Borla XR1 370 hp/ 334 tq
13.Flowtech Terminator 369.5 hp / 331.3 tq
14.Dynomax Ultra Flo 369.4 / 333.2 tq
15.Flowmaster 369.4 hp / 331.8 tq
16.Flowtech Warlock 366.3 hp / 325.3 tq
17.No muffs 365.2 hp / 330.1 tq

Sound Off in Quietest to Loudest (Decibels):

1.Borla XS, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 110db at WOT.
2.Hooker Maxflow, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
3.Magnaflow, 82db at idle, 91 at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
4.Flowmaster, 82db at idle, 93 at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
5.Flowtech Warlock, 83db at idle, 92 at 2,000 rpm, 112db at WOT.
6.Dynomax UltraFlo, 83db at idle, 94 at 2,000 rpm, 113db at WOT.
7.Borla XR1, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
8.Bassani Street, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
9.Edelbrock RPM, 84db at idle, 93db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
10.Bassani Real Street, 84db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).
11.Flowtech Afterburner, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
12.Flowtech Terminator, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
13.Hooker Aerochamber, 87db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
14.SpinTech, 87db at idle, 97db at 2,000 rpm, 116db at WOT.
15.MAC, 87db at idle, 98db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
16.No Muffler, 91db at idle, 103db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).

tell ya what mels look on e-bay for the flows they are normally pretty cheap. hell i slapped a 18 in cherry bomb on the 87 and it sounds good so far.

Flowmasters resonate UP through the vehicle... which is cool for about the first hour... then it's just plain annoying on the highway...

I've got a 40 series on the '89 and it sounds pretty good at idle, but there's a certain RPM where it resonates and drives me crazy. So I turn the radio up. :toothless I didn't really want Flows because of that, but dad is the one that said 40 series Flows.

Back to the '78 - I'm actually surprised with the way it sounds after he "fixed" it. He just made the pipes longer, put the cherry bombs on it and turned it down right before the rear end. Sounds better than it did. It was too loud before because it exited right at the door. The steering is real loose, gotta fix that before I drive it awhole lot. So I'm in no hurry to get a real exhaust on it...yet. Thanks for all the information. :thumbup

jeremy has the magnaflow(i think) on his rig.
it sounds sweet. best sounding muffler i have heard on a bronco yet.

i have dynomax ultra flo round on mine. its loud. but doesnt have as nice as a tone as the magnaflow. i think they are pretty cheap too. mine in 3" was under 50 bucks at summit.

Flows are nice but I like the "bubbleing" sound of cherry bombs. So IMO Id get a new set of bombs :D

get glasspacks.... SHORT glasspacks.. my 12" ones were like $15 ea. :thumbup



seriously--go w/ the flows if that's what you want. You're not going to be happy with anything else if you have your heart set on the flows... :shrug

Hooker Aerochambers or MaxFlows. More power than a Slowmaster and sounds just as good if not better.

Flowmaster 2 chambers off a 90 Mustang.
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=104846&toggle=fullsize&f=DSC00105.JPG



Yours for $20

No shipping cost, Couse I can meet you at the Big chicken.

:thumbup

I personally think Magnaflow puts out a great product for a decent price........and you can get 'em relatively small for tight areas.

But I also like my Magnaflow 'cause it's quiet............loud exhaust is for mullets and guys named Cletus :goodfinge

Look into the Summit brand of mufflers. I'm thinking of getting their Turbo muffler for my Ranger 5.0 swap, heard some good reviews about them and they're cheap.

Flowmaster 2 chambers off a 90 Mustang.
Yours for $20
No shipping cost, Couse I can meet you at the Big chicken.


The Big Chicken. :rockon

Heh...cool, thanks for the offer. No reason for you to drive all the way out here to Marietta, my brother lives off Ridge Rd out your way and I'll probably be out there sometime either within the week, or next weekend. Lemme think about that...I'll get back to ya. :thumbup


Everybody else...thanks for the replies. It doesn't sound too terribly bad right now, so gives me some time to do some research and decide what I wanna go with.

I'm also at that point with my Bronco, and had WANTED to get a pair of borla Pro XS, but being the cheap F'er that I am... I'm going to get a pair of Summits. I had found a bunch of clips here http://ubb.mustangexhaust.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=forum;f=8 - again, all small blocks - but I did like the SLP Loudmouth exhaust... too bad it's so F'in expensive

i got dual flowmasters on my 79... i believe they are 70 series with the delta flow tech.. got um for 39.99 or 49.99 a piece up here. I got flowtech headers and i love my exaust... not to loud, but strong sounding... nice and smooth, but growls when ya get on it. i had 40 series before and they were a bit ruffer sounding... and ive had cherry bombs and i didnt care for them... but my 70 series i love.

Flowmaster 2 chambers off a 90 Mustang.
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=104846&toggle=fullsize&f=DSC00105.JPG
Yours for $20

No shipping cost, Couse I can meet you at the Big chicken.

:thumbup

If bronco babe isnt interested,i would be...We need some new mufflers for our el camino :cry

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2457495241&category=33636

Look on ebay you can easily get FlowMaster 40's for $38 a peice, brand new, from a dealer. They are available in any pipe size or configuration.

ok... here's the actual shootout data on mufflers... pretty comprehensive list...

MUFFLER SHOOTOUT:

Results based on 5.0 Mustang Magazine December 2002 issue (page 55). Test car is a ’90 Coupe with 370 HP and 11 second potential. A number of 66 pulls were made to compile this information. Where does your muffler stack up?

The results in HP order:

1.Flowtech Warlock (open) 374.2 hp/ 333.1 tq
2.Bassani Real Street 373.7 hp/ 333.8 tq
3.Hooker Maxflow 373.5 hp/ 333 tq
4.Borla XS 373.3 hp/ 332.6 tq
5.Magnaflow 372.8 / 332.5 tq
6.MAC 372.3 hp / 331.5 tq
7.Flowtech Afterburner 372.3 hp/ 330.1 tq
8.Hooker Aerochamber 372.1 hp/ 330.4 tq
9.Bassani 372 hp/ 333.5 tq
10.Spintech 371.6 hp/ 332.2 tq
11.Edelbrock Performer RPM 370.9 hp / 331.3 tq
12.Borla XR1 370 hp/ 334 tq
13.Flowtech Terminator 369.5 hp / 331.3 tq
14.Dynomax Ultra Flo 369.4 / 333.2 tq
15.Flowmaster 369.4 hp / 331.8 tq
16.Flowtech Warlock 366.3 hp / 325.3 tq
17.No muffs 365.2 hp / 330.1 tq

Sound Off in Quietest to Loudest (Decibels):

1.Borla XS, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 110db at WOT.
2.Hooker Maxflow, 80db at idle, 90db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
3.Magnaflow, 82db at idle, 91 at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
4.Flowmaster, 82db at idle, 93 at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
5.Flowtech Warlock, 83db at idle, 92 at 2,000 rpm, 112db at WOT.
6.Dynomax UltraFlo, 83db at idle, 94 at 2,000 rpm, 113db at WOT.
7.Borla XR1, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
8.Bassani Street, 83db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, 120db at WOT.
9.Edelbrock RPM, 84db at idle, 93db at 2,000 rpm, 118db at WOT.
10.Bassani Real Street, 84db at idle, 96db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).
11.Flowtech Afterburner, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 115db at WOT.
12.Flowtech Terminator, 86db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
13.Hooker Aerochamber, 87db at idle, 94db at 2,000 rpm, 114db at WOT.
14.SpinTech, 87db at idle, 97db at 2,000 rpm, 116db at WOT.
15.MAC, 87db at idle, 98db at 2,000 rpm, 119db at WOT.
16.No Muffler, 91db at idle, 103db at 2,000 rpm, MAX. (120+db).

Considering the flowmasters put out about 2 lbs. torque less than the top muffler rated here, I don't feel too bad about my Flowmasters. I
love the resonance.

get glasspacks.... SHORT glasspacks.. my 12" ones were like $15 ea. :thumbup

I don't know why anyone would want glasspacks. Some of the worst flowing mufflers you can get, and they have a ratty,nasty, disgusting sound.

I personally think Magnaflow puts out a great product for a decent price........and you can get 'em relatively small for tight areas.

But I also like my Magnaflow 'cause it's quiet............loud exhaust is for mullets and guys named Cletus :goodfinge

???
One of my coworkers has Magnaflows on his truck- and its louder than my Flowmaster set up.

The results in HP order:

1.Flowtech Warlock (open) 374.2 hp/ 333.1 tq
2.Bassani Real Street 373.7 hp/ 333.8 tq
3.Hooker Maxflow 373.5 hp/ 333 tq
4.Borla XS 373.3 hp/ 332.6 tq
5.Magnaflow 372.8 / 332.5 tq
6.MAC 372.3 hp / 331.5 tq
7.Flowtech Afterburner 372.3 hp/ 330.1 tq
8.Hooker Aerochamber 372.1 hp/ 330.4 tq
9.Bassani 372 hp/ 333.5 tq
10.Spintech 371.6 hp/ 332.2 tq
11.Edelbrock Performer RPM 370.9 hp / 331.3 tq
12.Borla XR1 370 hp/ 334 tq
13.Flowtech Terminator 369.5 hp / 331.3 tq
14.Dynomax Ultra Flo 369.4 / 333.2 tq
15.Flowmaster 369.4 hp / 331.8 tq
16.Flowtech Warlock 366.3 hp / 325.3 tq
17.No muffs 365.2 hp / 330.1 tq

that data is for the most part pointless. all the mufflers aside from one are within 5 hp/ 7 tq of each other. NO one is going to be able to tell the difference. peak numbers also don't mean anything IMO. i mean, what good is a 5 hp gain in peak if you lose 15 hp at 1500 RPM? i love my Delta 40 Flowmaster, i constantly get compliments from other people, including fellow bronco owners. they really aren't that loud either and don't resonate that bad, especially if you get the Delta Flow ones.

:stupid

We're not running the drags at 7K rpm in these Bronco's.

Nothing sounds better than a Flo on a Ford. Period.

uhmmm... personally, I don't like the sound Flowmasters make. If you like ti... great... but, She said she doesn't like the annoying 2100 RPM drone that flows are famous for... y'all like... great... it's your ears. I didn't run the tests, I just posted the results from a major magazines testing... It was posted for comparison purposes, nothing more. period!!!

And a Roush exhaust sounds a whole lot better than anything Flowmaster could ever dream up... ;) :goodfinge :goodfinge :goodfinge :toothless :rebelflag

4" InOut / 34" long super muffler:
http://shop.airflowonline.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AFSI&Product_Code=M085171&Category_Code=EIO

It's on my shopping list :D