Just a thought. I know there's quite a few events coming up this summer like the East Coast Trail Meet and the Bloomsburg Jamboree.

But what kind of effort, time, notice or anything else would it take for us to get a Northeast Chapter Meet together for Paragon sometime during the summer, maybe towards the middle of August or something?

There's many of us who've been wheeling together on quite a few occasions and last months trail ride was probably the biggest turnout we've had but I have big aspirations and would like to see everyone, or almost everyone, there next time.

The good thing about doing sometime during the summer is that Red Ridge campground will be open so it's only $10 bucks a night to camp, as opposed to the $40 we pay at the hotel. It's also warmer with no snow!

Paragon seems to be the biggest legal wheeling place that's almost central for the chapter. There's always Rausch Creek that we could check into running one of the days.

Just an idea. While I LOVE all the guys we've met, it would be nice to meet everyone else. :thumbup

Figured I could at least start the chatter about it.

do we really have to wait till the summer? i was thinkin of goin up for the next monthly ride, even just for a day or so.

do we really have to wait till the summer? i was thinkin of goin up for the next monthly ride, even just for a day or so.

i was thinking summer for our next BIG run. there's nothing saying we can't do small trips in between.

i'm still wanting to take the car up to centralia and explore, so there's all sorts of things to do.

i figure if we start talking a good four or five months before the summer maybe we can have a fairly big turnout.

I'm in, Been itchin to put the big red machine through her paces. Name the Date and the Time and I'll be at Paragon an hour early! I'll pass it along to anyone in CT who wants to go.

Is there a minimum reccomended mods list before heading to paragon? would a stock bronco on 33's be okay?

if its done by then ill be there....better make it june '08

Is there a minimum reccomended mods list before heading to paragon? would a stock bronco on 33's be okay?

That's what I wheel, and except for one hill that I was playing on have had no problems.

I was thinking the same thing, if we do Rausch we can camp there. But I've never been there so can't comment on the wheeling. Even the guys who don't wheel could come and camp, and maybe ride with someone :shrug

Count me in :thumbup

I will be there this time. Sounds good. Been wanting to meet you guys and have someone to wheel with :thumbup

Just a heads up in the beginning of the post:

Stock Bronco's will be fine at Paragon. As we've said before with regards to the other Paragon runs, the most modded we've had so far are drexelsteve and reptillikus. But we run what the group as a WHOLE can do. If we have modded trucks and stock trucks, we're gonna run medium trails (mid-greens and maybe a few low blues). It actually has surprised me the more and more we've gone what those stockers can do.

Minimum SUV Requirements for Paragon:
Seat belts, 4WD w/low range, tow hooks front (and rear), full size spare, battery tie down, flags you buy at the park

Also, if you like your running boards, it would be feasible to take them off before you come down.

Both parks require at least three trucks in a group. Rausch Creek is by reservation only. RC has some really cool trails - lots of mud and trees! :thumbup A lot of uphill and downhill.

I was initally under the impression that you had to run RC with a trail guide, but after reading over their site, you don't have to. Both parks have open rides and while they can be okay b/c you run with a guide, it gets rough because they split you into huge groups and you don't have the freedom to explore.

For those of you who want to check out the parks:
Paragon (http://paragonap.com)
Rausch Creek (http://www.rauschcreekoffroadpark.org/home.asp)

My wheeling friend drives a '97 Grand Cherokee. It always seems to do very well, but he is worried about messing up his nice shiney daily driver. Would it be best for him to leave his Jeep at home?

As long as he stays away from Steve, his truck will be fine. He doesn't play well with GC's.

I just did the mapquest. Paragon is a 3 hour drive, and Rousch is 2 and a half. I can do either one, but I would rather not for the next few months, as I may be getting laid off soon. (I get reimbursed for unused vacation time when I am laid off, so I want to save up as much as I can, so I won't be broke when I lose my job)

The two parks seem to be pretty close together, How many days would you all want to spend at either one? Any thoughts of doing them both back to back?

Hey, I just mapquested Centralia, and it is also in the same area. Maybe we could make this a 3 for 1 trip?

TCRIMSON, listen to bnkrtstk, Steve doesn't play well with them GCs. Also, there are some fairly tight trails in both Paragon and Rausch Creek. If he's worried about dents or scratches or anything, his safest bet would be to leave it at home. If you like the pretty paint, neither park ain't the place for the Jeep.

When we did the UCP Charity Ride, we did Paragon on Saturday and Rausch Creek on Sunday. They are about forty minutes apart and if I remember closely, we camped near Paragon and then put all of our stuff in my car when we rode Rausch Creek the next day (so the stuff wasn't flying around). That could be feasible.

While it would be cool to do Centralia all at once, I think Steve and I were just talking about sightseeing there - not much to warrant taking an extra day off work for. But definitely a day trip on the weekend or something, for us at least.

I understand your perspective, But I might be willing to take an extra day off, to avoid an additional 6 hour trip (3 up, 3 back) and 300 miles on the already ailing Bronco.


So is my impression correct, that you can do all of paragon, or rouch creek in one day?

So is my impression correct, that you can do all of paragon, or rouch creek in one day?

Paragon is big enough to take up two or more days, as long as rig and driver are properly equipped and prepared. I can not comment on RC.

rausch creek isn't quite as big as paragon, then again i've only been there once with a guided trail ride so we only about half of the park. I'd say that you could do the whole thing in a day. well not the whole thing, i'd have to stay away from rock creek
http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3d630b3127cce8c226e75d42d0000000610
then again, with the right spotter... :toothless

Get a locker, ill spot ya through it! :thumbup Id love to see that in person, looks like a fun challenge.
i still want to go to RC!!!!!! We need to set something up over there.

Paragon is big enoguh that we could spend three days wheelin in the park. Then we'd probably hit everything. Well, everything that the usual group could handle. I can think of a couple more cool trails ya'll aint seen, but prolly only me and Steve coud run em from start to finish, and thats no fun.

Another interesting tidbit.....Paragon is now under new management! The people who were running it before now own the park. Theyre changing a few things. For starters, all our waiver cards will be going the way of the west. They now require the 'group leader' to be there 30 mins before, and anyone who wants to lead a group has to go thru a 30 min course to get qualified to do so. I think you have to do that every year now. Personaly, i think its a good idea, and since im aiming to be there with the zuk in may, ill be sure to sign up for it.



I would love to see a FSB EC ride at Paragon next summer, that would be awesome. We'll have enough experienced people from the NE chapter that we'll be able to set up trail groups for all difficulty levels, and maybe even some other things, like a hill climb, or (if the weather is right) we can do a mud drag or whatever. Lots of cool things we can do.

WooHoo! Just found out that I'm not getting laid off! I am SO there!

TC,

I have a shiny, straight, rust free truck. Been there 3 times now with no dents. I get a few surface scratches, but they can be buffed out.
I say, tell him to bring it.

Set a Date and a Time, the wife and I are down for the dirt. Her only request for the Paragon Run..... a decent hotel (girlie things .. ya know). Does anyone have any recommendations for a decent hotel in the vicinity of Paragon? It will be our first time there, so I'll want to make it nice for her. That way she'll be happy when I BONZAI the trails later.

Steve- come get that third member so you can spool it.
Rep- I'll follow you on any trail :toothless or at least try to.
Gators -me too...............................not
Kurt-Ramada Inn in Hazleton, inexpensive and clean, or the Hampton they are nice no matter where you go. Or go HERE (www.paragonap.com) and click under lodging.
TC- glad to hear it :beer

Ok I'm in this time!!!!! :chili

Ok I'm in this time!!!!! :chili

Yeah OK, IF you show up. I'll be the first one to give you a beer. :beer

Yeah OK, IF you show up. I'll be the first one to give you a beer. :beer

You better be!! As long as no one dies in the family and my truck is running I'll be there. I'm ordering my tow hooks soon and I've got an inquiry in with Dave on sliders.....so yes the running boards will be coming off in a bit.

And with the weather promoting camping...there's no way I can miss out :chili: :chili:

....so yes the running boards will be coming off in a bit.


:thumbup That will be an improvement, you would loose them anyways there :beer

Im looking forward to this :rockon

So from what I read on the website, anyone can pretty much take the guide course at Paragon? If so, then there's definitely a thumbs up from me on that one - I know I don't drive, but I can navigate the hell out of that map! :thumbup

Rausch Creek is smaller than Paragon but it's also newer, having just turned a year old this season. Last time we were there, there were trails that were freshly cut and were still being cut. RC has a little over a thousand acres, Paragon has 15,000 acres. You get the idea. Rausch trails all seem to be long and winding compared to Paragon. It's definitely a park you could do in a day without missing much.

The coolest thing about Paragon is because it's so big I'm still seeing things I've never seen because it's hard to cover the whole park in one weekend. It allows you to go up several times a year and not have to run the same thing.

So do we want to do a three day thing or just a Saturday and Sunday run? If we did three days, we could do the weekend at Paragon and maybe Friday/Monday at Rausch Creek. We could make sure enough people take the guide course so that if people do want to leave on one of the days, there will be a definite guide for Paragon.

I can do Saturday and Sunday for sure. Any longer depends on whats going on at work at the time.....tough to say now.

I'd do the guide course too. I think a get there Friday mid-day and wheel Sat/Sun would be cool. I'll make a point not to beat my truck too badly so I can wheel both days. If it was in the summer, we would probably stay over unitl Monday, just for the extra downtime, and so Sunday morning wasn't a mad dash to break camp.

I'm in for a Saturday to Sunday trip. Being the new-jack i don't get much vacation.

Paragon definately sounds like the better deal to me.

i was thinking summer for our next BIG run. there's nothing saying we can't do small trips in between.

i'm still wanting to take the car up to centralia and explore, so there's all sorts of things to do.

i figure if we start talking a good four or five months before the summer maybe we can have a fairly big turnout.


Actually I know a few people were mentioning that exact same thing over in the Centrailia thread. Maybe we should set that up to over in that thread.

Considering the big EC ride is in july, i dont think id be able to weasel more days off out of my boss unless it was later in the year, like september or so. Id still be down for a weekend, but i dunno if i could commit to a 4-day ride until we have a date set.

ya'll know me i'm down for just about anything. i think something in august one day at paragon the other at rausch would be good i'm willing to give rausch another shot. and some good news on the mod front finally got a bunch of stuff for my engine so i'm looking to get that in around may or so and i'm getting a freaking welder baby, i think.

ya'll know me i'm down for just about anything. i think something in august one day at paragon the other at rausch would be good i'm willing to give rausch another shot. and some good news on the mod front finally got a bunch of stuff for my engine so i'm looking to get that in around may or so and i'm getting a freaking welder baby, i think.

You know how to get a hold of me if you need a hand, or a hoist or both :thumbup

:chili: OK, I'll propose this.... JUNE 4TH, itsa Friday. Meet at a local watering hole for preparation on our attack of PARAGON. Blast trails on Saturday all day, and Sunday morning and early afternoon. Break camp Sunday early evening, have a c-ya later din din, and hit the road for home and work on Monday. :thumbup :beer :crazy :deal

that sounds like a good plan. I can probly do it. Can you local check out the thread I just started, I'm trying to head up this weekend!

http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15477

once again, do we really have to wait till june!!!???? i like to wheel more than once a year :goodfinge

what if we did one in may and one in august? or one in may, june and august? since red ridge will be open by then, you're not wasting too much money on hotels. and may has a three day weekend for some of us, though some people like to go away for memorial day.

i'll be savvy and create a poll ... see what kind of response we elicit. There, it's done. And you can check more than one weekend too.

Isn't the big TN ride the weekend for 7/31-8/2? Memorial day doesn't bother me, I'll have the pool open by then, but the water might still be too chilly to have a swim-bq. June 5-6 is cool too. So I guess all but the last one will work.

Yeah, I'm not thinking. I've been runnning around all day. I don't know if I can edit that poll or not, so just disregard the date that runs the same time with the big East Coast ride. Sorry.

well here's another thought, does anyone wanna go see the neuroc season opener may 22nd or 23rd? i don't think we'll be able to wheel but i'd love to take a day trip and see some buggies thrashin the rocks. :shrug

well here's another thought, does anyone wanna go see the neuroc season opener may 22nd or 23rd? i don't think we'll be able to wheel but i'd love to take a day trip and see some buggies thrashin the rocks. :shrug

you know i'm in! :toothless

oh, yeah, ill be there for neuroc. :thumbup
Id love to see that stuff up close and in person.


edit:
i cant vote for a weekend just yet. Need to check out the calendar at work.

hey guys, sorry to jump in here so late, i was (still am) away in florida. i am with drexelsteve, why wait? the sooner the better as far as i'm concerned. if we had one paragon run a quarter (winter, spring, summer, fall) i think that would be great, of course the EC run might get in the way of that. anyway, i am really itching to try the new locker out. may sounds good to me, another weekend trip would be great at paragon. don't think i want to drive the hours for neuroc, tho. take lots of pics.

i'm up for going soon. all i need is enough of a notice to see if work cooperates usually i work the last 2 weekends of the month but that changes to.

All Right!! May 22nd, the date is good to go, but uh, sorry for bein a newbie but... whats Neuroc??

All Right!! May 22nd, the date is good to go, but uh, sorry for bein a newbie but... whats Neuroc??


It's a rockcrawling competition. I'll go check it out. No matter when we go wheeling I'll try to get there. I used to go at least once a month and miss it.

hmm.. sounds like maybe we outa think about a ride every quarter like Dave said based upon the responses here :shrug If theres enough interest to be worth it?? Never seen Neuroc either? I take it thats a trip just for that, not wheeling also?

I think they close the park to wheeling to cover their butts, because there will be tons of people milling about the park to watch the action, On the other hand they won't be on the trails most of the people would be using, so you'd think they would keep it open.

Neuroc is spectator only. You cannot wheel that weekend, simply because there's going to be tons of people there and they can't worry about the hardcore buggies running as well as people being loose in the park. So just a heads up, May 22nd-23rd, if you plan on going, will not be a wheeling trip, it will be spectator only. More information on Neuroc is available here. (http://neuroc.com)

I would like to do a ride every quarter, funds willing. Late fall and winter get a little more difficult because the campgrounds are closed so we have to shell out money for a hotel, but we've been able to do it. I'd say we set it up for every quarter, but again, I'd like to do a bit more wheeling this summer, which is why I've proposed trips in May, August and September. In theory, we could do all but we'll see on that. I figured I'd leave July alone because of the East Coast ride and the Bloomsburg Jamboree.

I've been in the mood to hit the NJ pines. Once I figure out my truck situation I'm there.

I've been in the mood to hit the NJ pines. Once I figure out my truck situation I'm there.

I'd be interested in trying that out also.

I can't make Neuroc, but I will definatley be down for some wheeling in the beginning of June!!

I have been wanting to go to paragon for a long time now. I might be in for it depending on when everyone is going.

Can a mod edit that poll so August 1-2 is no longer an option since the East Coast meet is then? Or show me how to edit it? I completely forgot about the EC Ride.

Steve and I are pretty much down for whenever, especially since summer time warrants no hotels. In theory, we could probably do quite a few trips this summer. It seems a whole lot easier when you have a passenger to help split the cost! :thumbup

June 5-6 seems to be our strongest date right now. There are always other options and if a date doesn't work out for someone, there could be more runs in the future as long as we have a few weeks notice. Paragon isn't too far from us but getting all the c.rap together for the trip takes a little bit of time.

I'm also down for some NJ Pines wheeling too - maybe before it gets too hot and starts smelling like P.O.O.P!

I'm also down for some NJ Pines wheeling too - maybe before it gets too hot and starts smelling like P.O.O.P!

Does anyone have any info on that?

Does anyone have any info on that?

Some of the puddles get ripe in the summer heat. Cedar water puddles under forest cover, that don't dry up, they just get nasty. I have a couple shirts that got some of the mud from those puddles on them that never came clean.

I don't know why she's complaining when Steve got stuck I was a good host and waded out to hook up the cable. :toothless

:thumbup what are friends for

I don't know why she's complaining when Steve got stuck I was a good host and waded out to hook up the cable. :toothless

He did and that was awesome for him to do that! But in general, just going through them and stirring up all that water makes things smell .... of course, it could have been one of us and we didn't even know it. :histerica

Some of the puddles get ripe in the summer heat. Cedar water puddles under forest cover, that don't dry up, they just get nasty. I have a couple shirts that got some of the mud from those puddles on them that never came clean.

I don't know why she's complaining when Steve got stuck I was a good host and waded out to hook up the cable. :toothless

I wasn't talking about the smell. I was talking about the area :wacko :goodfinge

I wasn't talking about the smell. I was talking about the area :wacko :goodfinge

Don't you know to be specific with us? :imp

Wooded trails, whoopties, mud,sand, and deep puddles. No rocks or hill climbing, some trails are tight, so pin striping is almost unavoidable.

Im down for a ride in the pines, havent been there in over a year now.


I like having Quartely Rides to Paragon. It gets ya a few big rides where everyone has more time to plan for the trip, and it gives you plenty of time inbetween to recover from the trip afterwards :toothless
Beyond that, monthly is cool, but i think my boss would kill me if i went wheeling every single month, as i always take the monday after off :brownbag Better than having to call out cuz the truck is broken, right?



pin striping is almost unavoidable.
So it was raining pretty much all week, right? So since my truck was actually clean, i was looking at my paint and decided that my truck is now officially two-tone :toothless

[QUOTE=Kallure]Can a mod edit that poll so August 1-2 is no longer an option since the East Coast meet is then? Or show me how to edit it? I completely forgot about the EC Ride.QUOTE]


I stuck it, but I couldnt figure out how to get rid of the one option. I think maybe, only an administrator can do it.

Wooded trails, whoopties, mud,sand, and deep puddles. No rocks or hill climbing, some trails are tight, so pin striping is almost unavoidable.

I never was one for pin-striping :brownbag

why, chicks dig scars :thumbup

I don't care what weekend it is, I am gonna be there at least for one day. If something comes up this time I will HANG MYSELF, and have the pictures posted here for all to see. I only met everyone once, but I miss you guys as well as the fact I want to go back to Paragon. On a side note, anyone seen Keith lately? Or did he drop off the Planet.

thats a pretty good question. haven't heard from him in an awful long time. :shrug

I was mounting my new Hi Lift Jack to the roof rack today and I thought of him for some reason, I think becuase we used his Jack to get someones Differentail of a rock last time.

I definately want to cam again, I think it adds to the experience, mayve if work picks up and I get some cash I will bring a hooker or two :toothless

camping definatly makes things more fun and cheaper which makes it all the better. wanna make a ride soon even if its only for a day at the barrons or whatever, starting to get the itch agian.

, mayve if work picks up and I get some cash I will bring a hooker or two :toothless

heh heh, he said hooker... :toothless

well lets not make it too soon, my rear pinion bearing's wasted. Guess it's time to do a gear swap huh.

excuses excuses :goodfinge

well lets not make it too soon, my rear pinion bearing's wasted. Guess it's time to do a gear swap huh.


I have that third member if you're keeping it the same ratio Come and get it.

If we're doing Paragon, May's gonna have to be the earliest since the campgrounds don't open until then. Other than that, weekend runs can happen, once Steve gets whatever he needs to be fixed on the truck fixed.

BTW, Dave, thanks for stickying that. Don't worry about removing that option if you can't -- people'll just have to pay attention or we'll just disregard it.

I won't be around as much until later this week because I'm in Cleveland - again, and it's snowing and it sucks. But so is life! No internet access - I miss it!! :cry

Hey NE Chapter. Mind if I tag along? We don't have much good wheelin' down this way and I've always wanted to run Paragon. I know there are other Dixie members that would love to join you all. :thumbup

the more the merrier :thumbup

Hey NE Chapter. Mind if I tag along? We don't have much good wheelin' down this way and I've always wanted to run Paragon. I know there are other Dixie members that would love to join you all. :thumbup

C'mon up, if you remember could you bring me some Lipton Southern Style Tea please? :shrug

hell, why not just send the dixie chapter an invite? i agree, the more the merrier. bilzhorse, why don't you paste an attachment to this thread and invite your southern bro's to come? that would be cool. :thumbup or i guess i could get off my lazy a$$ and do it myself. :brownbag

edit: got off my lazy a$$ and threw dixie an invite... :thumbup

C'mon up, if you remember could you bring me some Lipton Southern Style Tea please? :shrug

all nice and sweet - my grandmother makes tea like that! :thumbup

looks like if the dixie boys are gonna be joining we're gonna have to pick a date and get in touch with paragon. sort of like an "informal" east coast gathering.

C'mon up, if you remember could you bring me some Lipton Southern Style Tea please?
You mean the kind with a little bit of tea added to the sugar. :histerica
Thanks for the invite. I bet you get a good response from my fellow Dixie Chapter members :rebelflag

You mean the kind with a little bit of tea added to the sugar. :histerica
Thanks for the invite. I bet you get a good response from my fellow Dixie Chapter members :rebelflag

That's the one :thumbup Depending on when we do it,and how many attend we can have a FSB swim-b-q at casa Bnkrtstk. :shrug

That's the one :thumbup Depending on when we do it,and how many attend we can have a FSB swim-b-q at casa Bnkrtstk. :shrug
Mmmmm food :drinkbud

yummm, food and swimmin' pools! :thumbup

once i get back from ohio, i'll start making some phone calls/emails up to paragon and stuff to find out exactly how that guide course is structured and how many people can take that course at the same time. then we can tie down some more information/dates/and all that other fun stuff.

Mmmmm food :drinkbud

I second that :drinkbud

The training is given at the time you pay..it's given in LARGE groups..it's about 15-20 mins long..it's basic safety information on the park, who to contact if anyone gets hurt, sign and trail markers.. It's a basic COMMON SENSE speach on wheeling at the park. At the end everyone that listened signs a paper saying they received the course and gets a card.
Yea, I don't believe it is intended to be a "wheeling tutorial", but more like what was mentioned earlier....just a basic common sense type of thing, so everyone has a better understanding of what they should do in the event of anything happening in the Park.
i don't think it's anything to worry about :thumbup

yeah, i know a few people who took it already (5, i think,) last weekend.
Its basically them running with you on the 101 course, going over basic trail stuff, recovery, and that jazz. you could probably sleep through it and pass it.

So should we shoot for the weekend of June 5th for our first big run of the summer? There can be more afterwards but I figure the 5th can start us off sooner than later - I don't know about you guys, but I'm dying to get back on the trails.

Red Ridge will be open then and now that I think about it, I don't think I'd want to try and camp there Memorial Day weekend, which is opening weekend for the campground.

But here's another issue - the monthly ride is that same weekend. I'm not too sure how it works, but everytime we've ended up there on a monthly ride weekend, we had to run with a guide, something I'm not too interested in. You guys would know more about whether or not we'd be able to run on our own if we have a big enough group - but I have doubts about that since they like to know where all the groups are on days like that.

If that's an issue, the next free weekend where no big groups are scheduled is the 19th of June - that's the weekend of Father's Day, so I don't know if that matters to any of you. The weekend of the 12th-13th has three groups scheduled for Saturday and one for Sunday.

So it's you guys' call! :thumbup

I'm down for June 5th for Paragon.

I can't bail on traditional "golf with the old man" day.

Vote! 6/5/2004!

I was hoping for something a little sooner, say, in May, but I am down with June 5 if that is the consensus...

Is it really bad going with a guide??

Don't fret Dave we can do a smaller trip in May too. :thumbup

Is it really bad going with a guide??


Yeah, good question. I'm heading up this weekend for the April Monthly Ride. Will I have to go with a guided group? Is that a bad thing?

Thanks.

-Darren

Yeah, good question. I'm heading up this weekend for the April Monthly Ride. Will I have to go with a guided group? Is that a bad thing?

Thanks.

-Darren

Our "guide" for the UCP Ride thought he was some kind of rockcrawling mud hating hero in his Heep. Too bad after we split from the group to find mud, he broke an axle shaft and didn't have a spare. I think most of the guides are Jeep guys. It doesn't make them bad people, just not schooled in the art of FS wheeling.

i never been there before, when is everyone goin, i am pretty much up for the trip when ever, my stock truck can handle it down there right?

i never been there before, when is everyone goin, i am pretty much up for the trip when ever, my stock truck can handle it down there right?

Your stock truck will do just fine. It looks like I'll be wheeling a stock 89 the next time out, but you might not want to follow me :brownbag

why wouldnt i want to follow u?

Going with a guide is all a matter of perspective. bnkrtstk is right - most of the guys are 'Heep guys and thus, don't really know much about FS wheeling.

I don't like wheeling with a guide because it's too controlled and you can't just, on a whim, decide to deviate from the plans and go exploring on trails you didn't think you would when the day began. I know the park pretty well and I just like the freedom of being able to decide as you go along.

I should've been a bit more clear - while I'm not a big fan of running with a guide, the problems I have with the monthly ride stem more from the groups they seperate you into. Even when we've got a fairly decent group of us from FSB, they'll still put you into larger groups designated by stock, intermediate, etc.

The problem there is two things: 1.) The groups are huge, anywhere from fifteen to twenty trucks. 2.) The classifications are too broad.

With the groups being that big, you cover less ground because it takes forever to get through the trails. And with the classifications - for instance, there was one time we decided to run with the stock group because the intermediate guys were running mostly trails with big rocks and we didn't want to or have the ability to do rocks without breaking something. So we ran stock and it was kind of boring because we had to be conscious of the fully stock, brand new vehicles - Jeep's with street tires, brand new Montero's and Xterra's, etc.

Personally, as long as they let us run on our own for the monthly ride, I'm fine with it, but if we have to be put into groups that they make, I'd rather do it a different weekend.

Can you run on your own during a monthly ride weekend? I might end up with three vehicles, and would probly prefer it. I understand everything that you are saying about not wanting to ride with a guide.

so this is like a real park where its legal to wheel, do u have to go with groups or could u just drive there and pay the 35 and go wheel by yourself or with a few other poeple, my truck is currently stock, would there be other poeple there that i could just follow or go with, i am deffinetly gunna go what ever week end everyone is goin up, anyone got any good driving directions or an address that i could run through map quest, i guess someone will post the date as soon as everyone decides on it, thanks, yes i know i am a noob

Can you run on your own during a monthly ride weekend?

I highly doubt you'll be able to run on your own this weekend. They're iffy about sending groups out by themselves on the monthly ride because they like to keep the groups seperate so there are no traffic jams on the trails or anything. I think you need a fairly large group to run the monthly ride by yourself - like if all of us were coming up as THE NE Chapter of FSB this weekend.

so this is like a real park where its legal to wheel, do u have to go with groups or could u just drive there and pay the 35 and go wheel by yourself or with a few other poeple, my truck is currently stock, would there be other poeple there that i could just follow or go with, i am deffinetly gunna go what ever week end everyone is goin up, anyone got any good driving directions or an address that i could run through map quest, i guess someone will post the date as soon as everyone decides on it, thanks, yes i know i am a noob

It's okay, I'll let the boys pick on ya! :thumbup You can find information on Paragon by visiting their website: www.paragonap.com (http://www.paragonap.com). It is a legal park set up solely for wheeling and you have to be in groups of at least three to go out there. Their address is on their page and you can use it to MapQuest, although those of us from the Philly area typically set up a meeting place and follow each other up. You being from S Jersey would let you meet up with us since we're from the southwest suburbs of Philly. Once we figure out a date, we're gonna let everyone know.

Personally, as long as they let us run on our own for the monthly ride, I'm fine with it, but if we have to be put into groups that they make, I'd rather do it a different weekend.

ok i get the picture. i don't want to do a guided tour.

Its not easy to get your own group on the weekend of a monhtly ride. Ive done it, but then i "know people who know people" :imp
(Basically, a group of people whove been wheelin there since they opened & even blazed some of the trails)

Better off not going on that weekend, in the summer that parking lot gets pretty full pretty quick. I dont mind ridin with a guide (i know a couple, theyre good guys), but being stuck (for example) in a group with a stock Xterra, would suck.

I'm not up for going with a guide either.

And the guided thing wasn't for the early June trip, was it? (I admit I missed something obvious)

The early June trip (5th-6th) is also the weekend of a monthly ride, which is when it's hard to get your own group -- which is why I figured a different weekend if everyone still wants to run on our own. The weekend right after that - the 12th & 13th - is open. There's three groups registered to run that day but I'm sure we won't be big enough to interfere with each other. And on Sunday there's only one group scheduled to run. So maybe push it up a week? :shrug

ok with me... :thumbup

ok with me... :thumbup

Good with me too i suppose

Good with me too i suppose

At least you're not picky as to which weekend you bail on :goodfinge

At least you're not picky as to which weekend you bail on :goodfinge

I'm going to go just to kick you in the nuts.

I'm going to go just to kick you in the nuts.

I was worried, but just for a second or two.

I was worried, but just for a second or two.


Before the sudden realization that you were ill equiped to be kicked in the nuts?

Before the sudden realization that you were ill equiped to be kicked in the nuts?

Yeah, that's it. :wacko

I would have been insulted, but since it came from a guy with a flaming twat for an avatar, I just considered the source. :goodfinge

Yeah, that's it. :wacko

I would have been insulted, but since it came from a guy with a flaming twat for an avatar, I just considered the source. :goodfinge


:thumbup Nice.

:histerica :histerica :histerica

He said flaming twat!!!

Sounds like a personal problem to me!

Thats worse then a crab, but no quite a herpe

I'm going to go just to kick you in the nuts.

would that be before, or after, you kick me in the nuts?

Thats worse then a crab, but no quite a herpe
speaking from personal experience? :histerica

speaking from personal experience? :histerica

Not yet but, but could happen anytime......... just live with it if it does

I always wanted to open a Strip club, and put on the sign *All You Can Eat Crabs! $20 Oer Dance*

would that be before, or after, you kick me in the nuts?

DIRECTLY after i give you a boot. I will spare no time.

Anyone else want a free pancake scrotum?

DIRECTLY after i give you a boot. I will spare no time.

Anyone else want a free pancake scrotum?

Do you have some kind of foot/scrotum fetish :shrug :uke:

Anyone else want a free pancake scrotum?
Wow! You guys have free pancakes? :lowblow

So we kinda abandoned this after all the scrotum talk. June is approaching quickly boys, let's get something together.

Would the 12th-13th be good for everyone? It would be nice to avoid a monthly ride weekend for reasons we've discussed before. And the weekend after the 12th/13th is Father's Day, so wouldn't want to infringe on that.

I know Steve and I were talking about heading up for Neuroc to watch in May. But June could be our first big chapter trip of the summer that Stang's gonna bail on!! :histerica

No seriously, let's make some definite plans here. I wanna go back!

i'm deffinetly goin, When is some on going to POST A DEFFINATE DATE OR THE DATE WHEN EVERYONE IS PLANNING ON GOING, will there be other poeple in the group that i can wheel wit, im all stock, with no new tires due to a fender bender :banghead

But June could be our first big chapter trip of the summer that Stang's gonna bail on!! :histerica



If you had nuts....I'de be wanting to kick them.

Anyway, that weekend is good for me!

i think that weekend works for me too. :thumbup

Sounds good to me :thumbup

so june 12-13th? guess i can have er fixed up by then :thumbup

Count me in :thumbup

Got it on the calendar....... :thumbup

sounds good just gotta double check dates for work.

So June 12-13th then, that's the date. If you can make it, come, meet, greet, be merry, bring beer .... :beer Stang, looks like you lost out on wanting to kick me in my nuts .. advantages of being a girl. :histerica

I'm sure we'll be camping - and I know some people will be hoteling it so if you need camp information, talk to us or hotel recommendations, I'm sure bnkrtstk has recommendations. now's the time to get excited!

and I know some people will be hoteling it so if you need camp information, talk to us or hotel recommendations, I'm sure bnkrtstk has recommendations.

Since when did I become a hotel critic :shrug

I am actually going to try to convince Tracy to camp this time.

Since when did I become a hotel critic :shrug

I am actually going to try to convince Tracy to camp this time.

I just figured since you had the little ones you'd be hoteling it. So anybody wants to hotel, ask anyone of us who've been there. Happy?!! :toothless

Seriously though, that'd be cool if you guys camped. The more the merrier!

I'm definatley camping...I can't afford the ritzy life on the poor college kid budget :toothless

[QUOTE=Kallure]I just figured since you had the little ones you'd be hoteling it. So anybody wants to hotel, ask anyone of us who've been there. Happy?!! :toothless

Seriously though, that'd be cool if you guys camped. The more the merrier![/QUOTE

Damn, don't get your thong in a knot. I'm just in a sarcastic mood today. :thumbup

Damn, don't get your thong in a knot. I'm just in a sarcastic mood today. :thumbup

Is this different from any other day? :shrug

I'll be out camping with some friends that weekend. I'll have to catch you all next time. :cry

Damn, don't get your thong in a knot. I'm just in a sarcastic mood today. :thumbup

No knot here, just kidding with ya! And just TODAY you're in a sarcastic mood? C'mon, I know you better than that. :toothless

So the date, in case anyone missed it, for the first big run:
JUNE 12th - 13th

On more good news, Red Ridge has opened for the season, a bit earlier than normal, I'm assuming. So anyone who wants to do some short weekend trips to Paragon in May - like for Neuroc, I guess - also has the option of camping. Woohoo!!

Can you provide females to flirt with?

What kind of run is Red Ridge? I'm running stock suspensions with 31" tires.

Can you provide females to flirt with?

What kind of run is Red Ridge? I'm running stock suspensions with 31" tires.

Red Ridge is the campground. You'll be fine with a stocker, my 79 is stock with 33's. A few others(not me) have nice clean stock trucks that came out unscathed :thumbup

Can you provide females to flirt with?

Convincing my girlfriends to sleep outside, get muddy and spend all day in a dirty, muddy truck running around in the woods is like convinving them never to go shopping again. Sorry! :shrug

Convincing my girlfriends to sleep outside, get muddy and spend all day in a dirty, muddy truck running around in the woods is like convinving them never to go shopping again. Sorry! :shrug

Well just tell them that I'll find ways to keep them up all night so they don't have to sleep outside. :shocked

Convincing my girlfriends to sleep outside, get muddy and spend all day in a dirty, muddy truck running around in the woods is like convinving them never to go shopping again. Sorry! :shrug


Tell them Ramada has rooms with hot tubs :chili:

Tell them Ramada has rooms with hot tubs :chili:


You sir, are a genious. :rockon

June 12 & 13 works for me. If ya don't mind a tag-a-long from the Dixie Chapter-North. I will need info on camping and what-not. And what time everyone is gonna hook up. Thanks. :rebelflag

Bill

June 12 & 13 works for me. If ya don't mind a tag-a-long from the Dixie Chapter-North. I will need info on camping and what-not. And what time everyone is gonna hook up. Thanks. :rebelflag

Bill

Mind, hell no we don't mind( I think I can comment for everyone). The more the merrier. :thumbup :beer

No knot here, just kidding with ya! And just TODAY you're in a sarcastic mood? C'mon, I know you better than that. :toothless

So the date, in case anyone missed it, for the first big run:
JUNE 12th - 13th

On more good news, Red Ridge has opened for the season, a bit earlier than normal, I'm assuming. So anyone who wants to do some short weekend trips to Paragon in May - like for Neuroc, I guess - also has the option of camping. Woohoo!!

Do we want to set up some kind of registration so we know who all is going?

Do we want to set up some kind of registration so we know who all is going?
well i know who'll be there. Me and rep for sure. Leonard'll get wasted the night before at some deathmetal concert adn bust a couple ribs in the mosh pit. he'll be good for sunday though. brkntstk will show up at the park around 4:00AM but he'll tear his truck to pieces taking an "alternative" line up valley road. He'll limp home sat. night. Accessory man will bail due to "lack of bitches". Gators alarm will fail and he'll sleep till sometime sunday afternoon.
Keith was abducted by aliens or somethin (seriously though, miss that guy. awsome wheeler n spot, loves the skinny pedal too. hope everything's ok.)
jackheart will show up sportin a full cage,winches frt n rear, 5:13's and arb's frt n rear, 2 more optima's in the back, about a dozen more foglights, and still be sportin 31's :goodfinge :goodfinge Stang will think about goin, but decide he likes his runnin boards better. TCrimsonk will get half way there only to have his buddy's heep commit suicide somewhere in central pa. 94xlt won't make it either. "got a big day tomorrow. we're goin to home depot" :histerica
kurt rohmer won't show for fear i'll steal his rig for my new d.d........it's gettin late, i'll bust on the rest of u guys tomorrow :goodfinge

:lolup :lolup :lolup Now's that funny and accurate.

But remember, EVERYONE will say they're going BOTH days up until Friday night when we either get phone calls or posts on the board that we won't see until Sunday because we've already left to head up there. :toothless

But seriously, that was hilarious! I think he was :beer , but it was still funny. :histerica

jackheart will show up sportin a full cage,winches frt n rear, 5:13's and arb's frt n rear, 2 more optima's in the back, about a dozen more foglights, and still be sportin 31's :goodfinge :goodfinge

don't forget to add the sterling i just picked up yesterday...heh heh

http://img33.photobucket.com/albums/v99/jackhart/dana60/10.jpg

now i can finish peein in my pants, steve that was fawkin hilarious...

94xlt won't make it either. "got a big day tomorrow. we're goin to home depot" :histerica

:histerica That was good. But I go to Lowes now?? Not home Depot :goodfinge I have every intention of being there :thumbup

Damn Drexel, great list. Maybe this time we'll just leave the jeep at home.

BTW, one of these days I'm gonna have to get you to explain why everybody warns me about you whenever I mention that my wheelin friend has a GC.

BTW, one of these days I'm gonna have to get you to explain why everybody warns me about you whenever I mention that my wheelin friend has a GC.

Here's a hint


Steve + tree + Grand Cherokee =

http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=119082&toggle=fullsize&f=gcdent.jpg
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=119083&toggle=fullsize&f=gddent2.jpg

Damn Drexel, great list. Maybe this time we'll just leave the jeep at home.

BTW, one of these days I'm gonna have to get you to explain why everybody warns me about you whenever I mention that my wheelin friend has a GC.

If you make it up in June, we'll recount the whole story for you! :toothless

Steve pushes GC into tree?

Steve cuts down tree onto GC?

Steve's idler pulley bearing goes bad, producing a squeal that is the exact resonating frequency of every GC driver's scull, causing his head to explode, and all of that damage was produced from the inside of the cab, then GC drifts into a tree?

But remember, EVERYONE will say they're going BOTH days up until Friday night when we either get phone calls or posts on the board that we won't see until Sunday because we've already left to head up there. :toothless


Advance notice...I'll be leaving early Sunday afternoon :toothless

Drexel. I think I peed a little. I'll be there...and I'm working on the running board situation.

Advance notice...I'll be leaving early Sunday afternoon :toothless

To go back home right?? Otherwise, we'll be leaving just as you get there! :toothless

Story of the Grand is recounted here: click me! (http://fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4936&highlight=UCP+Charity+Ride) It's been one for the history books, to say the least.

Good times! I love driving a beater. A little body damage never hurt anybody. That's what they make duct tape for... I mean... Uh... What duct tape holding on my fender flare? I have no idea what you're talking about.

Anyway, is anybody heading up from Maryland, or anywhere south of me? It would be cool to get a caravan together.

I'd say you could roll with us, but we're out of your way. I'd assume you just hop on over to 81 and head north. Thought you were a bit closer to the Baltimore area. :shrug

Oh well - those of us who don't ride up together usually ending up meeting and hanging out in the same place that night.

so do most people take that friday off, and head up during the day? That's what I expect to be doing.

so do most people take that friday off, and head up during the day? That's what I expect to be doing.

We're only hour and a half, two hours away so we actually work and then head out around 3:00-4:00pm, maybe a little later depending on how busy I am at work or when we can get out. With traffic, and stopping and driving just 60mph, we usually roll in around 7:00-7:30, set up camp, start the first and crack open the beers. But we live a little closer so don't know how long it takes you guys to get there.

:beer

It's gonna be a 3 hour drive for me, and I don't get off work til 6. I'll probly be making the drive without a second vehicle this time, because my wheeling friends are not gonna be willing to drive the trails that I hope we will be driving.

More than likely I'll take Friday off, this way we can make the drive in daylight. We'll probably take two vehicles and the Mrs. isn't too fond of driving to the mountains at night.

More than likely I'll take Friday off, this way we can make the drive in daylight. We'll probably take two vehicles and the Mrs. isn't too fond of driving to the mountains at night.

Expecting the hillbillies to pop out at every turn, eh? We drove through country like that while I was navigating us out of the area Will got us lost into. :histerica :histerica

To go back home right?? Otherwise, we'll be leaving just as you get there! :toothless


Yes

I plan on taking a half day that friday...its 5 hours for me. :banghead

Expecting the hillbillies to pop out at every turn, eh? We drove through country like that while I was navigating us out of the area Will got us lost into. :histerica :histerica

Are you calling me paranoid? You know better than to think I don't have counter measures for things like that. :brownbag She doesn't like driving on unfamiliar roads at night with only her and one or both of the kids with her.

It's gonna be a 3 hour drive for me, and I don't get off work til 6. TCRIMSONK
I am about an hour and a half south of you. I'm going but I wanted to get an earlier start. You know, daylight driving. Also, there is another Dixie Chap. member I think is going with me.

i took all my vacation time for the East Coast ride, so ill be heading out friday after work. Its about 3.5 hours for me, so i probably wont roll into the camgrounds until about 9-10pm. Depends on how many trucks we bring.(might bring our beater toyota with us :toothless )

TCRIMSONK
I am about an hour and a half south of you. I'm going but I wanted to get an earlier start. You know, daylight driving. Also, there is another Dixie Chap. member I think is going with me.


I just mapqested from Stafford, Va to Paragon, and you will be driving right through the middle of frederick. So what time are you headed up on Friday?

Are you calling me paranoid? You know better than to think I don't have counter measures for things like that. :brownbag She doesn't like driving on unfamiliar roads at night with only her and one or both of the kids with her.

Understandable!

And since Kev says he'll be arriving around 9-10, I guess in theory we can expect him around 1-2, right? :toothless

I am trying to make a little mini vacation out of this. I was thinking about taking a couple of days extra and making side trips to the Harley Davidson Plant in York and then Touring the Hershey plant and then stop at Gettysburg on the way home. Would anyone be interesting in this also. I would do all the calling to make arrangements.

I am trying to make a little mini vacation out of this. I was thinking about taking a couple of days extra and making side trips to the Harley Davidson Plant in York and then Touring the Hershey plant and then stop at Gettysburg on the way home. Would anyone be interesting in this also. I would do all the calling to make arrangements.


If you're gonna do this, take a few hours to swin by Centralia. It's just a little south of Paragon, and pretty interesting to check out. FYI, Hershey is a good park for younger kids, up to maybe 12 years old.

The Yuengling factory is in Pottsville, about 45mins from Paragon, thirty from Centralia. I want to do that sometime, just for the sake of it.

If you're into that sort of thing .... :shrug

The Yuengling factory is in Pottsville, about 45mins from Paragon, thirty from Centralia. I want to do that sometime, just for the sake of it.

If you're into that sort of thing .... :shrug

mmmmm Yuengling.

yes, yes, very good ....

though it can get a bit old when that's pretty much all you drink for awhile.

Speaking of ... well, not really but thinking of ...

Will, you've been rather quiet lately. You're not gonna disappear on us are you? Or are you laid up in the hospital with the other rib broken?! :toothless

Or maybe we just talk too much.

were you laid .


You know better :goodfinge

Poor guy! :cry

It's gonna be a 3 hour drive for me, and I don't get off work til 6. I'll probly be making the drive without a second vehicle this time, because my wheeling friends are not gonna be willing to drive the trails that I hope we will be driving.

You will be going right by me, if the timings right we could link up :shrug
Im only and hour to hour and a half north of Frederick.

You will be going right by me, if the timings right we could link up :shrug
Im only and hour to hour and a half north of Frederick.


Well, it looks like I may be meeting up with the dixie chapter guys on their way up. Maybe then we can meet up with you once we leave Frederick.

I just don't know when they are planning to start up.

sounds good to me :thumbup

As long as everyone is at Paragon and ready to go by, what, 8:00am this time?!

8:00am for good measure b/c what'll happen is everyone will get up in intervals, we'll shoot the shi.t and pick up around camp a bit, then head out. Spend forty five minutes at the Uni-Mart gassing up and stocking up on food. During this time, bnkrtstk will already be at the park and will have been waiting for an hour for us to show up while we try to find parts of group that have gotten lost. Then we'll spend another twenty minutes airing down in the lot and finally get on the trails at what, nine thirty?! :toothless

sounds realistic

Depends how bad we were Fri night :shocked

8:00am for good measure b/c what'll happen is everyone will get up in intervals, we'll shoot the shi.t and pick up around camp a bit, then head out. Spend forty five minutes at the Uni-Mart gassing up and stocking up on food. During this time, bnkrtstk will already be at the park and will have been waiting for an hour for us to show up while we try to find parts of group that have gotten lost. Then we'll spend another twenty minutes airing down in the lot and finally get on the trails at what, nine thirty?! :toothless


If I camp, I'll be waking you fawkers at 6am with the smell of omelettes and pork roll and my glowing rendition of Rise and Shine. :thumbup

If I camp, I'll be waking you fawkers at 6am with the smell of omelettes and pork roll and my glowing rendition of Rise and Shine. :thumbup

Oh god.................... :shocked

LOL Steve, Lack of Bitches though? as long as the let Chevys in paragon there wont be a lack of bitches.

As for the mountain roads at night, some of us carry all sorts of knives and guns and such.

As for the 6am rendition of rise and shine, some of us carry all sorts of knives and guns and such. :toothless

As for the 6am rendition of rise and shine, some of us carry all sorts of knives and guns and such. :toothless

:thumbup

As for the mountain roads at night, some of us carry all sorts of knives and guns and such.

That's what I meant by counter measures :toothless

As for the 6am rendition of rise and shine, some of us carry all sorts of knives and guns and such. :toothless

That's one of the reasons I live in PA :brownbag

mmmm, omelettes.

The Yuengling factory is in Pottsville, about 45mins from Paragon, thirty from Centralia. I want to do that sometime, just for the sake of it.

If you're into that sort of thing .... :shrug

i know the family that owns it, if you guys want a personal tour...

i know the family that owns it, if you guys want a personal tour...
i think that one is self explanitory :rockon

i know the family that owns it, if you guys want a personal tour...

Umm OK :thumbup :beer

Understandable!

And since Kev says he'll be arriving around 9-10, I guess in theory we can expect him around 1-2, right? :toothless
har har very funny :goodfinge
It just so happened that that night was spent with arminio at a buddies house in PA trying to fix his g/f's huge SAS'ed chebby so they could go wheelin with us that morning, but we never finished it.
This time ill be headed straight out there. Im considering towing the bronco out there, just cuz i can :goodfinge, and cuz itll be good practice for the TN ride, but it all hinges on whether or not we get tiedowns made up to strap the truck to in time.

frist off steve very good list very entertaining, good memory.
and yes i'm obviously i'm still around just very busy this week, still gotta double check that weekend with work but doing everything freaking possible thinking of any reason if we are working to get off.

but it all hinges on whether or not we get tiedowns made up to strap the truck to in time.


I think I have one that you can use ,lemme know.

Hey remember me?! Still alive, barely. If you guys will have me I'm going to do my best to get the truck back up and running. Hasn't been on the road much since the charity ride when I bent the left front radius arm.

oh yeah! Several of us should be at the park at 8am saturday so we can take the training course to be group leaders. If i havent taken it by then, ill def. be there for it.

I think I have one that you can use ,lemme know.
im thinkin along the lines of installing anchors in various places to tie to, but nothing is in stone yet. Whatcha got?

Hey remember me?! Still alive, barely. If you guys will have me I'm going to do my best to get the truck back up and running. Hasn't been on the road much since the charity ride when I bent the left front radius arm.


Hey guy's he is alive :thumbup

if you answered a PM you could have had one from the 84 I took apart.

How ya been?

im thinkin along the lines of installing anchors in various places to tie to, but nothing is in stone yet. Whatcha got?

Just a big ass ratchet strap, I think it's 2" wide :shrug

I just mapqested from Stafford, Va to Paragon, and you will be driving right through the middle of frederick. So what time are you headed up on Friday?
TCRIMSONK
Not sure just yet. I don't want to hit a lot of traffic if possible. Would like to avoid the rush hours of Wash/Balt.

anyone coming from around Pittsburgh or along 70/76. If so I'm most likly leaving friday and camping. Anyone want to drive in a bronco caravan?

Just a big ass ratchet strap, I think it's 2" wide :shrug
Got two. Thanks though :thumbup
the more i tnhik about it....im probably gonna put something in the floor out back so i can chain the rear in place, and winch the front down with a strap or something. Maybe get a small winch for the front of the trailer even. We'll see how it goes.

So is it the 5th-6th or the 12th-13th? I'm in, just need to know which weekend. Kev, if you don't trailer up, can I borrow your trailer? OX will be towing also, so I can't borrow his.
People take rock buggies up, right? My truck isn't registered or insured. Do they "REALLY" check?

12-13th. If i end up not usin it, then yeah, no prob dude :thumbup
i wouldnt worry about registration, they dont seem to care too much about all the buggies that run there, and ya know they aint registered. Come to think of it, ive never seen them actually check to see if your registered & insured before anyway.

Hey remember me?! Still alive, barely. If you guys will have me I'm going to do my best to get the truck back up and running. Hasn't been on the road much since the charity ride when I bent the left front radius arm.
great to hear from ya bro. If there's anything u need let us know. i'm sure everybody would be willing to lend a hand.

great to hear from ya bro. If there's anything u need let us know. i'm sure everybody would be willing to lend a hand.

:stupid My driveway is always ready for some wrenching.

Yeah, and i may be able to acquire a radius arm if you still need one. Lemme know.

Keith, good to hear from you! Hope all is well, or at least on the up and up. Hope to see you in June - we were kind of figuring you were just gonna show up on one of the trips these days anyway. :toothless

im gunna hopefully join you guys if u dun mind, me and one of my friends will prolly come up in my bronco, did u guys set a deffinate date, also what time is everyone gunna show up, where are u guys meating, not to repeat my self but is anyone else gunna be there wit a stock truck, i need some one to tag a along wit mostly cause i never been there, and i thnk u need 3 poeple or more to a group,

is anyone from jersey goin up that i could possibly follow or figure out where the hell im goin

no need to worry about being a stocker, the mainly modified trucks are drexelsteve's and reptilikus's. you'll be fine.

still waiting to find out from work if we're open that weekend or not but put me down for a sat. night and sun. for now i'll know later hopefully by the end of the week.

im gunna hopefully join you guys if u dun mind, me and one of my friends will prolly come up in my bronco, did u guys set a deffinate date, also what time is everyone gunna show up, where are u guys meating, not to repeat my self but is anyone else gunna be there wit a stock truck, i need some one to tag a along wit mostly cause i never been there, and i thnk u need 3 poeple or more to a group,

is anyone from jersey goin up that i could possibly follow or figure out where the hell im goin

The 12-13th.
i wouldnt worry about being a stocker, last time gators and jackhart ran w/ stock trucks on 31s, and they did rather well. Probably me and drexelsteve are the only ones on 35s, most everyone else is on 33s and smaller.

Are you gonna camp, or stay at a hotel? I think im gonna camp this time w/ the rest of the loonies. :toothless
If youre gonna camp, you can follow me out there, ill be leaving friday night, sometime between 530-7, whenever im packed and ready to go. Im near Old Bridge Raceway Park.

Don't worry 5.0 I'm stock too ........except for a winch :thumbup

I'm coming and have 35's both axles locked and a winch. But I'm a poser and won't do anything :boxing

I'm bring a buddy of mine up and he has a lifted ranger and maybe a Heep too :brownbag

My dad used to have a sweet ass 4-man tent. Well when my parents got divorced my mom held on to the tent. One of those "you'll never see it again and I'll never use it" things. Well I live with my dad now and I want that damn tent to bring down to Paragon....however using it will be one hell of a conflict of intrest. :banghead.

Divorce blows when problems like this rearise. :banghead

can't wait, i love campin. just can't forget the beer bong this time :thumbup

Probably me and drexelsteve are the only ones on 35s, most everyone else is on 33s and smaller.

Are 38's too big? :thumbup

theres no such thing as too big :thumbup :toothless

My dad used to have a sweet ass 4-man tent....however using it will be one hell of a conflict of intrest. :banghead.

Divorce blows when problems like this rearise. :banghead

How many people are you bringing? I have a tent you can borrow if needed.

How many people are you bringing? I have a tent you can borrow if needed.

I believe 3 are coming down with me. I'm going to try and hammer out this camping situation. If I can't figure it out though I may take you up on the offer....appreciate it bro :thumbup

can't wait, i love campin. just can't forget the beer bong this time :thumbup

sense when do we not have beer.

sense when do we not have beer.
:stupid there better be beer :beer

where is the campground located, i dont know if i am camping yet, prolly just driving up in the morning, i am coming from Middlesex County so i gotta figure out the directions, will prolly be in the range of a 3-3.5 hour drive for me,

where is everyone meating saterday morning, how old is everyone i dont wanna be the oddball 17 year old.

So my truck would be fine wit an open front and an open rear, and 30 inch shit tires,

Also whats the deal wit the orange flags, and how much is it to get in.

IT's June 12-13 right

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also if anyone got some 32 or 33" tires that they wanna sell let me know,

i don't know about the camping whereabouts, but the fee is $35 for a one day pass, $60 for a 2 day pass, and you buy the orange flags there for $3 for an antenna mount one.

check it out here

http://www.paragonap.com/

i was running pretty stock last time i went, so don't worry, you will be fine. just make sure you take off your running boards, if you have them... :thumbup

yes, it is june 12-13

Thanks Guys!!! :thumbup :beer I'm trying to see if I can get a lift with radius arms before this trip if not I might just have to go with another stocker for now. I just got the bronco back to my house a few days ago it's been at my work since the last trip. No matter what I'll be ther and so will Holly(wife). Even though I have'nt had the balls to tell her the dates changed now she has to change her schedule again :banghead Also got to get the truck inspected I just got it reregistered 5 months late. :twak :shrug

camp grounds about 10-15 mins past the turn off for the park, 10 bucks a night, have a big fire some food some good brew and good buds, yeah i think i'm camping.

the campground can be kinda tricky to find, so we can exchange numbers and those who are planning to come can have a way to get in touch with those who know where we're going.

Cool, cuz i have no idea where Red Ridge is :brownbag
5.0-Bronco....
youre not far from me, im on the border or monmouth/middlesex counties. its usually a good 3.5 hours to get there, but a buddy of mine recently found a 'secret passageway' that chops a half hour off :thumbup

If i end up not usin it, then yeah, no prob dude :thumbup

Don't sweat it. OX won't have any trucks ready, so I'm using his trailer and he's riding with me. Anyone have a good used Warn Enforcer bumper for an 87-91 F-Series for sale? I got a 12,000 # Ramsey just itchin' to be mounted :toothless

I know where theres one. Ill find out price and condition on it in a couple days and let ya know.

I got a 12,000 # Ramsey just itchin' to be mounted :toothless

We could always "test" it on my truck :brownbag

The big question about the campgrounds..are the showers nasty? I was talking to the wife last night and that is her big concern. I might just have to take a ride for some recon so she can personally check them. Because I don't feel like staying at a hotel and I'm not sure about towing a 31 ft camper with the Bronco.:banghead

I know where theres one. Ill find out price and condition on it in a couple days and let ya know.

Get that roll bar in yet??

Don't sweat it. OX won't have any trucks ready, so I'm using his trailer and he's riding with me. Anyone have a good used Warn Enforcer bumper for an 87-91 F-Series for sale? I got a 12,000 # Ramsey just itchin' to be mounted :toothless

I'd bring the white one up, but I'd rather roll mudmans, HEEHEEHEE!!! (hell, he got to roll it last time).

The big question about the campgrounds..are the showers nasty? I was talking to the wife last night and that is her big concern

don't know but if its any indication the sign above the sinks say don't drink water without boiling. :shocked

checked with work today and we're closed that weekend so i'm good to go. with any luck i'll have the engine done by then to, crossing any and every body part that will cross. any one happen to have a cam bearing installer i could borrow.

the shower houses/showers are an iffy thing - i don't mind taking one there if i have to but i make it real quick. i've seen nicer showers at other campgrounds. the stalls are kind of small too, so i don't know well that would work with the girls.

i use the bathrooms in the unimart ....

the shower houses/showers are an iffy thing - i don't mind taking one there if i have to but i make it real quick. i've seen nicer showers at other campgrounds. the stalls are kind of small too, so i don't know well that would work with the girls. ....

Thanks...The bathrooms are no big deal, we have the portable that I keep in the truck :thumbup

don't know but if its any indication the sign above the sinks say don't drink water without boiling. :shocked any one happen to have a cam bearing installer i could borrow.



No, but if you need someone to fetch tools or an engine hoist call me. :thumbup

thanks steve, don't worry i'll be calling on you guys soon enough. i want this thing in by the end of may at the latest.

Get that roll bar in yet??
started to, and my bro's trans in his K5 went, so we started workin on that instead. itll be done in another week or so, whenever i can find the time.

oh, and you cant bring the white one, that would be like cheating :toothless

:stupid My driveway is always ready for some wrenching.


My u-joint just bit the dust, and I am in Hatfield right now.

oh, and you cant bring the white one, that would be like cheating :toothless

He already brought the white one there. I wish I went with him cuz he said the look on everyone's face when they saw 44's was priceless :shocked . Some of them Jeepers said they never saw 44's before :chili: and yeah...he basicly walked over everything :thumbup

My u-joint just bit the dust, and I am in Hatfield right now.

Don't you have my cell? I live in Hatfield.

He already brought the white one there. I wish I went with him cuz he said the look on everyone's face when they saw 44's was priceless :shocked . Some of them Jeepers said they never saw 44's before :chili: and yeah...he basicly walked over everything :thumbupyeah, seen the pics....that thing makes Black trails look like Greens :wacko

yeah, seen the pics....that thing makes Black trails look like Greens :wacko

But it has the turning radius of a chevy :-) (or an aircraft carrier!!!)
Only 68 K turns per obsticle :thumbup

Don't you have my cell? I live in Hatfield.
No, I don't have your cell, I have my own but not yours :toothless
I'm at my g/f place, she lives between 463 and forty foot rd.

No, I don't have your cell, I have my own but not yours :toothless
I'm at my g/f place, she lives between 463 and forty foot rd.

I'm on Walnut St between just off 463.

Okay, so here's the deal, just to catch everybody up. The trip to Paragon is for the weekend of June 12th-13th (month and a half! :chili: )

Many of us will probably be leaving Friday evening at varying times and Steve and I can do an Ikea meet for a caravan of people from our area (usually Leonard & Assman & Keith). Most everyone is probably going to straggle into the campground or their respective hotels as the evening goes on, but if you aren't planning on leaving Friday, we will probably be meeting up at Paragon around 8:00-8:30am on Saturday morning. We'll give a list of cell numbers out for those who don't already have it so we know who to expect and who not to expect.

If you're stock and you want to come, don't worry about it. As we said before, we've had stock trucks do very well and we won't take you anywhere we don't think you can handle. Take off your running boards though! If you have like superhumungous 3000" tires don't come b/c you'll make us look bad! Kidding! :toothless

The trip is open to anyone who wants to to show up but we've got to be a little on point and have an idea of whose coming and whose not so we're not waiting in the parking lot ('cause bnkrtstk doesn't like waiting!) and so we can make sure we have a decent sized campsite, because it looks like we're going to have more people camping this time than usual, which means we have to have room for the camp area AS WELL as the trucks.

For those who want to camp: Red Ridge is not the easiest place to get too until you've been there once or twice. You gotta make sure you get the right road off 924 and follow it long enough to get to the campground. Here's a map giving a general idea of how it's off the beaten path a bit.
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=120226&toggle=fullsize&filename=campground.jpg
We got lost looking for it the first few times and it's a little more difficult if you're driving it at night, which we were. And in all honesty, I look at that map and it still doesn't mean anything to me, even though in my head I can see the route very clearly. But don't let that scare you from camping - I'm assuming this is why we'll exchange cell numbers and those of us who know where the campground is can go out on expeditions to get those who don't know where it is.

If we have a decent size group coming that are going to camp, it may be a good idea to call up there and get a spot because I don't know how busy the park will be that day and our usual spots may not have enough room for everyone.

For those wanting to hotel it, visit Paragon's website at: www.paragonap.com (http://www.paragonap.com). They have lodging information on there. Also, if this will be your first trip to the park, make sure you read the Park Guidelines section under the Explore menu and the Self Guided Trail Rides under the Adventures menu. This will give you a good idea of what the basics are that you need in the park. The orange flags are $3 and it's $35 a day for the driver in the park (passengers are $5 a day).

Other than that, there's not much else to know. It'll be cool if a lot of people can camp because that's always fun. :toothless If not, the weekend will still be fun! Can't wait!

Okay, so here's the deal, just to catch everybody up. The trip to Paragon is for the weekend of June 12th-13th (month and a half! :chili: )


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I don't mind waiting if I'm early, but I hate waiting for those who are late. :goodfinge

We should book early, there is a race at Pocono on 6/13 .

Okay, I'm camping. Who is making this list, so we know how much space to reserve?

I'll make the list and call. In that case, I'd say let me know about camping by say, next Friday or so (May 7th) simply because there is a race at Pocono that weekend.

Even if you're still up in the air about coming, let us know if you're camping. It's better to have more space and some people not show up than assume to small of a number and not have enough space booked.

well then I will also PM you my cell number and email addy. Thanks.

i am pretty sure i will joining you guys, i dont know if i am camping or not, i didnt realize that it was that far away, there might be another truck comin wit me, a 78 ramcharger

i think i might be campin, but i aint sure yet,

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dont even talk to me about gettin lost, when i was younger i was goin campin wit my dad and bro's by the deleware river, we got lost, it turns out my dad was driving on the wrong side of the deleware river, 2 hour trip turned into a 5 hour ride,

then we went tubing down the delware, wich we thought would take an hour,
we had 4 tire tubes tied together wit a canoe pulling us, well 7 hours of floatin down the damn river lator we got out just when it was gettin dark out