I have been going to this web site to get information on Canada.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/newcomer/welcome/wel-19e.html

But honestly how important is it to learn the "other languages"?

I mean IIRC isnt it mostly english anyway?
I know that certain areas speak French but is it that big of a deal?

Just curious, I really am thinking of moving there in the next 5-10 years.

It is on my "lifes little list of things to do". :beer

depends on how diverse you want to be.Very few people I know speak french.I suppose it would help if you were to relocate and be eastern scum


the west is best

Which part of the west would you recommend?

What part is doing economically well?

I would like something that is nice and green, has plenty of mountains and good terrain, but of course being close to work is always nice too!

I am probably dreaming too much though right?

Beerdude, you packing up the truck and moving to Beverly (http://www.arctic-caribou.com/) Canada, that is..Caribou....Kodiak Bears.

BC is the best province
mountains,
lots of jobs,
if you live on the coast it never gets cold but you can see snow on all the mountains

Alberta survives on oil industry, but 99% flat and 100% cold in the winter
Saskatchewan and Manitoba are jobless wastelands
Ontario is flat and endless cities
Quebec is french
maritimes are nice to visit (at least once in a lifetime) but no jobs

Olympics here in Vancouver 2010, be a lot of building, upgrading till then. If your in construction good time to move now. Just expensive housing. . .

just do yourself a favor Bro and STAY AWAY from Quebec ... trust me .. it sucks ass

HIGH taxes, French attitude ... shitbox healthcare ... truly an embarrassment to be here coming from Colorado .... but the schools aren't as violent as back home. Kids still fight here instead of sticking or shooting one another .. it's the only reason I put up with it ... as well as the fact that I have no family for my kids to grow up around .. so I stay for them

B.C. is where it's at :thumbup

BC but stay the hell out of the interior (theres Enuf Bald people round here :goodfinge )

BC but stay the hell out of the interior (theres Enuf Bald people round here :goodfinge )

Come to the Port Moody/Coquitlam area. Vancouver side of the bridge but still affordable.
http://www.globalairphotos.com/large/BC/Port_Moody/Centre/2004/035/1

Kev.

BC is the best province
mountains,
lots of jobs,
if you live on the coast it never gets cold but you can see snow on all the mountains

Alberta survives on oil industry, but 99% flat and 100% cold in the winter
Saskatchewan and Manitoba are jobless wastelands
Ontario is flat and endless cities
Quebec is french
maritimes are nice to visit (at least once in a lifetime) but no jobs

Damn, I knew I was forgetting a few provinces somewhere ... I'd always thought of Queerbec as Canada's leper colony (not trying to insult any leper of course) and everything east of the Rockies was Newfoundland .... If you want Mountains come to BC, we have the monopoly. We've got speedbumps bigger than the eastern mountain ranges.
As for the prairies .... think of that patch of dead grass in you front yard ... now multiply that thought by a few thousand square miles.
But then I'm from the rock .... more beer than people :drinkbud .... more 'save the hairy lipped hippy' groups than beer :brownbag


.... running real fast, duckin' for cover :goodfinge

Beerman

I've lived all over Canada. Lived on Vancouver Island, in B.C. for a year. Lived on Baffin Island in the real Arctic in the NorthWest Territories for two years with the Bronco(then it became Nunavut). Lived in many areas of Ontario, rural and urban.

I also driven across Canada from Ontario to B.C and back 4 times. Driven from Ontario to the East coast and back more times than I can count.

The two provinces/territories I've never been are Newfoundland and the Yukon, though I've flown low and slow over both. Wait I have stopped in Gander on a flight stopover many, many, many moons ago.

MJ and the boys have it pretty correct on Quebec. They are a true millstone around the Canadian neck. The spanish speakers in North America outnumber them 15 to one but they keep entrenching their dying language's rights onto our entire country at horrendous cost to the rest of us.

Within their own Province they have language laws that are actually stricter in many ways than pre-war Germany. Most of these laws, if put before the Haig, would be ruled racist in any international court and yet they are given national tax dollars to continue this.

Their language police actually fine you for using any other language than French, even if you're a Chinese business, selling to Chinese patrons in the Chinatown district of Montreal. Freedom of speech my a$$.

If you dig deep and look for the true cause of our low value dollar you could make a very convincing arguement that French is at the root of almost all of it.

Whether it's the true cost of official national bi-lingulaism, the staggering amount of Quebecer's who are actually a net drain on the economy(receive more dollars than they are taxed) or just the billions we've spent trying to woo the bitch to stay in Canada, a very convincing arguement can be made.

Everytime they kick up a fuss about seperating our dollar stays low for another 15 years. In 73 our dollar was worth 7 cents MORE than the American dollar. Three years later during the first threat of seperation a downward spiral started that has never truly ended. The very people we are borrowing money to support actually drive down our credit rating with Wall street.

After 35 years of unbelieveably preferential hiring practices even the senior levels of government are filling up with underqualified, unmotivated, undedicated french Canadians who actually resent having to speak english at meetings. In other words we are not getting the best people, or even interested people, for the most critical leadership positions in our country.

They really are the tail that wags the dog. Westerners tried to tell the Ontario majority this years ago and we dismissed them as alarmists. Well nobody's laughing now as it's actually creeping into Ontario like a bad case of herpes.

This bitch is well on the way to bleeding us dry. The good news is American television and their own greed is succeeding where we failed trying to assimilate them.

The language police can do nothing to stop satelite feeds from around the world penetrating Quebec TVs and Quebecers are actually embracing english television.

Who wouldn't ! Anyone who has watched Quebec television would pay big to have alternatives and it costs huge amounts to produce and is rarely good enough to be catagorized as even 2nd rate.

Like the rest of western society, their own greed has taken over in the last 40 years too. Many were from huge families and grew up poor and have no desire to repeat the cycle, despite their province's lure of cash for kids.

As a result they are just as materially minded as other Canadians, if not more so. They have the lowest birth rate in Canada and their urban areas are being inundated with immigrants who will soon stop putting up with their racist language policies and start to exert their own political muscles. On a sad note they have the highest suicide rate in Canada, three times higher than the nearest province. Almost as if they were living a lie ?

Sixlitre(the english racist for saying these things)

BTW

Ontario is only endless cities in the SouthEast corner for about 200 miles Eastwards, where 40% of the province's population lives. 90% is still bush, hills, small mountains and tens of thousands of lakes.

The top/north 60% of the land is unpopulated and the wildlife is so abundant it boggles the mind. Fishing is unlimited in the words of an American buddy who visits regularly.

hey canada

ive been to toronto twice in the past month and a half.

any of yall in Toronto?

ive been to toronto twice in the past month and a half.

any of yall in Toronto?

My sister lives there. pretty safe eh ?

Sixlitre

I'd vote for western seperation.The farming industry,oil industry,logging,fishing,tourism,we would have our offshore oil if it wasn't for federal regs.We could keep our transfer payments that get squandered back east.We could probably pay the us military like we should,( lack of western population makes this a viable option) for being under thier umbrella. on and on. the east would probably go bankrupt and have to sell itself to the states at .25c on the dollar

ive been to toronto twice in the past month and a half.

any of yall in Toronto?

I'm directly across the lake. On a clear day I can see Toronto from the beach...about a 3 hour drive or hour ferry from me.

I'm directly across the lake. On a clear day I can see Toronto from the beach...about a 3 hour drive or hour ferry from me.hows the smog?

hows the smog?

Not as bad as you would think, actually. From the air you can definately tell that there is a haze above the city.

80% of canadians live with in 100miles of America. Y leave?

80% of canadians live with in 100miles of America. Y leave?

Too true DirtyDeedz

NOBS

Don't encourage them ! The rest of us can't support Quebec without them.

Couple of summers ago the West had a drought and there wasn't enough feed grown to feed the Western herds. Not to worry, we had a Prime Minister who was pissed with the West.

He sent $150,000 to "the West" to help out. That equates to $50,000 per affected Province (state), when most individual farms could have used more. The farmers association in the Ottawa valley(where I live) sent more by themselves thank heaven.

He spent many times more in his own riding any given year.


As for smog, like Stangmata501 says, usually it ain't bad. You should have seen it in the 60s and 70s ! and the state of the lake was almost without a pulse. Now there's salmon restocked in the lake and the trout are legendary again (thank you American angler associations{and our Gov't too}).

As flawed as the French English power balance is, it's still a good country to live in, though it makes me ashamed many a day.

Sixlitre

and the state of the lake was almost without a pulse. Now there's salmon restocked in the lake and the trout are legendary again (thank you American angler associations{and our Gov't too}).


Yea, but don't eat the fish unless you love a good, healthy, dose of Mercury. That lake is disgusting.

Yea, but don't eat the fish unless you love a good, healthy, dose of Mercury. That lake is disgusting.


True, but we have tens of thousands of pristine lakes further north all across Canada (the places we don't use/live in).

As bad as Lake Ontario is, it's many times improved since the 60s (when you could almost walk across Lake Erie).

Sixlitre

Sixlitre, how far away from the Falls are you?

Sixlitre, how far away from the Falls are you?

In good traffic

about 2-3 hours to Toronto and another 4 to 4 1/2 rollin' down the 401 and up the 416 to Ottawa, So 6 1/2 hours (at our speeds) in good weather and traffic.

I'm only 30 minutes North of the crossing at Ogdensburg in upstate New York where 90 North takes you after you've crossed interstate 81 to interstate 90. About 4-5 hours East and North of Rochester.

Comin' up ?

Sixlitre

Well i was going to say, im only 45 mins from the falls so I was hoping you were a little closer to there. I'll be up your way this winter for snowmobiling.