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Skued
05-16-2004, 11:39 PM
Some of you read my post in Emergency Help this weekend so just skip down to the pictures.
I took my first trip to Disney, Oklahoma this weekend with my brother. Disney has a lot of rock crawling and trails from lame to insane. I took one of the lower trails that followed the river. Thick trees and very tight in places. Lots of mirrors and trim a long the trail. As we followed it more and more mud hole came up and they kept getting deeper. I should have stopped and turned back. But no like a dumbass I kept going...bad very bad ideal. Found a hole that just swallowed the bronco. I figured the way it died it just had water up on the distributor. Well my winch was useless since it's hydraulic. But I had my High lift, and started to pull her out backwards. After pulling for and hour a new friend drove up and finished pulling us up on dry ground. Sprayed the dis. cap with WD40 just clicked. Figured the starter was full mud and pulled it. After cleaning and drying it still no go on the motor. Well my new friend pulled my sorry ass back to civilization. We got load and headed home still hoping things were going to be ok. Put in a new starter , pulled the plugs, drained the oil w/water in it, and everything else we could...Hydro locked.
Still had fun in Disney and can't wait to go back. And it's sure nice to know their are few people out there that would do anything for you out of the kindness of their hearts. I offered to pay him but he refused and said it might be him the next time. He's right, I've said the same thing to others.
Steve
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=123472&toggle=fullsize&filename=trail6.jpg
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=123466&toggle=fullsize&filename=trail5.jpg
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=123454&toggle=fullsize&filename=trail4.jpg
A few other pic at my superford site below

SMOOTH
05-17-2004, 08:58 AM
Wow that hole caused that much trouble? Damn. Not to minimize your damage or you in that hole, I just had no idea. I did a river crossing last year that had water about 6 inches below my window and some water splashing up over my hood, I guess I should just consider myself lucky. I had traction though, since the river bottom had been built up with solid rocks, but I just thought it was a safe crossing, guess not. If you don't mind me asking, where was your air filter? Did you have the intake hose that runs to your grill installed?

jermil01
05-17-2004, 09:10 AM
Sorry to hear about your bad luck man, but it looks like you had a good time anyway. :thumbup

Skued
05-17-2004, 08:01 PM
The air box intake runs through the front grill. To low, I be changing that!

Had lot fun and now that the sting over the motor is gone I'm looking forward to building a new motor. I plan on replacing the drive side door, fender and reworking the front bumper. Hope to be back in Disney by July. :thumbup

SMOOTH
05-18-2004, 09:07 AM
Good luck man, ya that intake will definately pull the water in. But don't feel bad, my Bronco buddy who helps me with all my work, and I get his advice on all my work, did the same, freakin, thing when he was younger. So it happens to the best of them. Just a lesson learned, a very expensive lesson, but still a learning experience. I learned that if the dummy oil pressure gauge on the dash keeps showing oil pressure dropping off, you may want to look into it, cause it may cause your crank to break, but I can't say for sure that's what cause mine to do that, it still should have been considered, instead of ignoring.

nwbronco
05-18-2004, 02:01 PM
Wow that hole caused that much trouble? Damn. Not to minimize your damage or you in that hole, I just had no idea. I did a river crossing last year that had water about 6 inches below my window and some water splashing up over my hood, I guess I should just consider myself lucky. I had traction though, since the river bottom had been built up with solid rocks, but I just thought it was a safe crossing, guess not. If you don't mind me asking, where was your air filter? Did you have the intake hose that runs to your grill installed?

If he's running the stock airbox, the inlet is mounted on the driver's side of the radiator apron. It's a perect ramp to load water into the airbox and right at top of grill level. Any water over the hood and you are soaked.

Bob K.

SMOOTH
05-18-2004, 02:16 PM
If he's running the stock airbox, the inlet is mounted on the driver's side of the radiator apron. It's a perect ramp to load water into the airbox and right at top of grill level. Any water over the hood and you are soaked.

Bob K.

ya he had already said that

The air box intake runs through the front grill. To low, I be changing that!

And I had already asked about that exact intake hose in my question which you quoted.

Did you have the intake hose that runs to your grill installed?

But thanks for trying. :shrug

95broncoxlt
05-18-2004, 08:38 PM
sorry to hear that man, i hydrolocked mine today:(

Bronco85
05-18-2004, 08:53 PM
Got Snorkel?

I'm floated down a river and had water coming in the windows and up over the hood. Once on dry land my engine compartment was bone dry:)

Sucks to hear about the engine...

SMOOTH
05-18-2004, 09:56 PM
Got Snorkel?

I'm floated down a river and had water coming in the windows and up over the hood. Once on dry land my engine compartment was bone dry:)

Sucks to hear about the engine...

Maybe I'm just confused, how does one have water coming in the windows and over the hood but a dry engine compartment? Unless you found a way to compelete seal your engine compartment, which with all the heat generated, that not a good idea, and aside from next to impossibile, I'm assuming you are refering to your cylinder being bone dry (relatively speaking). If I'm wrong, please explain the physics, cause I'm at a loss.

muxpux
05-18-2004, 10:15 PM
thats what i was thinking.

i saw a little Suzuki Samarai with a snorkel the other day. I started laughing.

dont get me wrong, snorkels are a wonderful thing, if you do it right, too many people assume that simply putting on a snorkel will let you drive through a lake.

Skued
05-18-2004, 10:18 PM
95broncoxlt, Sorry man that really sucks. Let me know how yours turns out.

I pulled my oil plug again today and another two cups of water came out. Pulled the the throttle body tonight...the bottom had fine silt and water. Damn that water.
Found a couple places in town to get a rebulit motor from $900-1350. Just for fun I check with the local Ford Dealer...$1780+400 core.

What should do about water and silt in the thottle body and manfold? Damn water.
And computer or brain of bronco, do I need to be worried about that too? :banghead

millpondmonster
05-19-2004, 04:01 AM
Hey Skued. When you get it to crank over, spray a little WD-40 or similar lube in your cylinders through the spark plug holes and run a compression test on it. If you have bent rods or valves you will have low compression on the bad hole. if none are low you probably do not need a new engine.
good luck and hope all turns out good.
:beer

Bronco85
05-19-2004, 12:11 PM
Maybe I'm just confused, how does one have water coming in the windows and over the hood but a dry engine compartment? Unless you found a way to compelete seal your engine compartment, which with all the heat generated, that not a good idea, and aside from next to impossibile, I'm assuming you are refering to your cylinder being bone dry (relatively speaking). If I'm wrong, please explain the physics, cause I'm at a loss.


I have no idea why or how it was bone dry but it was. I have no reason to lie about somthing like this... The bottom of the engine was wet but nothing above manifold hieght.

SMOOTH
05-19-2004, 01:15 PM
The only two things I can deducted is either you went through very fast, and the water didn't have time to push the air under the good out and replace it with water. Or, your engine way was hot enough to evaporate everything off quickly. Both are highly unlikely, but not impossible. I'm not calling you a liar, I wanted to make sure we were talking about the same thing here, which we are, it's just hard to conceive, but if it happened, it happened.

Bronco85
05-19-2004, 04:06 PM
I wasn't going slow I was creeping(or if felt like it) I was pointed nose up into the river because the current was to strong and this was the only way to keep me from going down stream really fast. I was bouncing along actually. Scary shit if you've ever had it happen. Especially in an Alaska Glacier feed river at the face of the glacier. Anyways. I'm guessing I was in the water for around 2 maybe 3 mins. I'm told I was pushed down stream a good 100 yards. First thing I did was pop the hood after I was out of the water.

So probably had some air trapped in there or somthing. all I know is I'm happy I didn't loose my truck that day.

DrewMan187
05-20-2004, 12:28 AM
stay away from water holes lol. Every time ive gone in one ive gotten stuck, not as bad as you but it was expensive draining and cleaning everything afterwords.

Jimluw
05-20-2004, 05:05 PM
Looks like a fun place to wheel! I'd like to make it down there sometime. Good luck getting the Bronc fixed!!!