Well, we were on our way up to the Okanagan when my E40D piece of crap decided to pack it in just outside of Hope. No service on the cell in that area but finally found a pocket of reception to get a hook down to Hope. The shop had to have the rebuilt delivered from Chilliwack so the old man drove down from Oliver (3hours) to pick us up and tow up the tent trlr.

Then on Friday I had to drive back down, pick up the truck, and drive back to Oliver area to continue the vacation. Hard to enjoy yourself after being bent over and shafted 2900.00 for parts and labour.

So we finally left today for the trip home. Everything went smooth until the first big hill after Princeton . . . yup, you guessed it. The Rebuilt E40D packed it in as well after only 400kms or so. So now I’m standing on the side of the highway for the second time with a pregnant wife and 16 month old daughter waiting for another tow. The tow bill back down to Hope to the original shop was almost 600.00 after tax. Man am I freakin pissed.

So I guess my question is, what do I do with the rebuilt that is being put in tomorrow? Do I eventually have all performance parts put into it or do I swap in another type of automatic. Would a C6 work? Also, what electronic parts does the E40D affect. Would there be any probs with doing a swap to a different type of tranny.

Searched the forums but want more info. Read about 15 threads. What I really would like to do is swap the rebuilt for an E40D that has some serious performance parts in it.

I am absolutely paranoid about this tranny now and won't tow with the 2nd rebuilt until I do something else with the tranny.

Someone give me some advice bout this. PLEASE !!

Kev. :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead :banghead

sorry man...that sucks

if mines goes I'm going to swap in a zf

Thank GOD I havent had any problems with my C6!

Good luck to ya bro!

get a bad ass torqueconverter and ask what parts failed and have those beefed up :)

get a bad ass torqueconverter and ask what parts failed and have those beefed up :)

Ya, I'm thinking that after I'm assured this tranny is ok, I'll have to do that. Or maybe get a good tranny shop to build me one and swap it for this one plus cash after the one year warranty is up.

Anyone else have any advice? Oh, and whats a zf Nobs?

Kev.

5spd

5spd

Crap, that would be nice.

Well, I'm just out the door to pick up the truck. The guy at Coast to Coast Transmissions said the tranny was demolished inside. Wonder what it was i did to his tranny . . . :shocked

Oh well, he can bite me. Here's to you Mark and your crappy tranny rebuilding skills. :goodfinge

Kev.

Let us know how this tranny works out.

Make sure the shop flushed the cooler, if your truck doesn't already have one, install a seperate cooler.


BTW, why didn't the orginal shop pay for the tow if they just installed a reman :shrug

hay i was thinkin about putting a five speed in my bronc can you get um for an 89 351 if anybody knows that would be cool.
Sorry about your trans. man had one blow out in my motorhome.I mean it came out on the ground i feel for ya.If it helps mine was 3500.00 w/o towing

I would try and install a C-6 and be done with it for good.

NO4NJNK

I'm gonna be doing a ZF 5 speed conversion to the Bronco when I get ahold of the funds, even tho it's a '79, I want the overdrive for highway driving (yess it's an onroad queen)

Well I picked up the Truck. The tranny shop says that the Rad was plugged at the tranny cooler lines which is why the rebuilt died. The Tranny shop had the garage in Hope pay for a new rad cause they said there was not enough flow to cool the tranny properly. So I got a new rad out of the deal.

When I was talkin to the garage owner in Hope, he said they had the lines flushing all night cause they forgot to turn it off at 5pm. He said that the lines should have been very clear but because he did not have a proper "flow tester" like the tranny shop, he had to take their word for it.

It doesn't make sense that the tranny died cause of running too hot from limited flow through the tranny lines. I also had an external cooler put on at the garage in Hope which is why they flushed the cooler lines on the rad.

If the rebuilt tranny ran so hot that it finally blew, the oil likely would have smelled burnt and it smelled quite fresh when I checked it after the breakdown. That would lead me to believe that they just forgot a snapring or something in the rebuild and when I put a severe enough load on it . . . BOOM.
The meltdown in the rebuild and all the shredded metal might have plugged the rad but it would have been after the fact. Otherwise the oil would have definitely burned in my opinion after running for 500k with limited oil flow.

I am checking the rad at North Road rads to see if it really is plugged or not.That's where I got it less than 2 years ago. They told me that they usually just blow it out with air to make sure its not plugged.

Updates on the condition of the rad to come . . . I personally think that somethin smells fishy and that the tranny shop was just covering their ass for a crappy rebuild. I may just hook up the trailer next week and tow it up the cut in North Van. That's a pretty steep grade so if this new tranny is no good, it should show me there.

Kev.

I'm gonna be doing a ZF 5 speed conversion to the Bronco when I get ahold of the funds, even tho it's a '79, I want the overdrive for highway driving (yess it's an onroad queen)

Any links to info on the ZF 5 speed?

Kev.

Hey Kev,

Sorry to hear about your tranny problems. My '92 F150 E4OD tranny died at about 120,000kms. It started slipping, but was still able to drive it to a shop. I brought mine to Benz Transmissions out in Maple Ridge. I heard they had a good reputation and besides 1 Lionsgater (Judd) and one ex-Lionsgaters club member works there.

I've got 176,000kms now and haven't had any problems.

Did you get a tranny temp gauge as well? That would give you an indication of how hard it's working (or not).

Sounds like a crappy rebuild. My tranny is started to do a few funny things like not wanting to kick down when i hit the gas and such. Also was slippin the odd time but some additive seemd to fix it for now. Still not shifting perfectly though.

AS such Ive been finding out how much it is to rebuild and seems like 2-3000 depending if you want upgrading. A mild shift kit seems like a good idea, maybe new cooler and you should be good for another 150-200km. Diesels have the same tranny with a few steel inards rather than aluminum so dont see the reason to swap the tran to something else.

Hope the new rbuild was done right this time. I hope it was no charge plus some towing money.

BTW how many Km on yours? Im at about 140 and do some 1500lb towing. You tow a big load?

Damn Kev, the Cut, yeah for sure, took the Bronc up there a few times,

as for the ZF 5 speed links, I know a person or 2 that is preforming it at the moment on PJB, I'm not too much of a fan of an Auto

Hey Kev,

Sorry to hear about your tranny problems. My '92 F150 E4OD tranny died at about 120,000kms. It started slipping, but was still able to drive it to a shop. I brought mine to Benz Transmissions out in Maple Ridge. I heard they had a good reputation and besides 1 Lionsgater (Judd) and one ex-Lionsgaters club member works there.

I will definately take it there for its check up. I've heard good things about Benz as well. Should I ask for Judd (event coordinator)?

I've got 176,000kms now and haven't had any problems.

160,000 on mine.

Did you get a tranny temp gauge as well? That would give you an indication of how hard it's working (or not).

Not yet but I will be soon. Probably the only way I could tell if its being overworked. Who should I talk to at Benz about upgrades and reliability?

Kev.

Sounds like a crappy rebuild. My tranny is started to do a few funny things like not wanting to kick down when i hit the gas and such. Also was slippin the odd time but some additive seemd to fix it for now. Still not shifting perfectly though.

AS such Ive been finding out how much it is to rebuild and seems like 2-3000 depending if you want upgrading. A mild shift kit seems like a good idea, maybe new cooler and you should be good for another 150-200km. Diesels have the same tranny with a few steel inards rather than aluminum so dont see the reason to swap the tran to something else.

Hope the new rbuild was done right this time. I hope it was no charge plus some towing money.

BTW how many Km on yours? Im at about 140 and do some 1500lb towing. You tow a big load?

160,000 on mine. Load was a small tent trlr. No charge for tow

Just call Judd at home. He's a nice guy!

I may just hook up the trailer next week and tow it up the cut in North Van.and don't stop till you get to Cypress Bowl! that will be a good test

Hey guys, I just joined this forum, found it on internet search for e40d stuff.
last weekend going to the lake pulling the boat my 93 5.8 bronco started a shudder into gear and vibration at 50/55. I would like some ideas as what to do, I have 175000 on the truck, bought it at 140000. I like the idea of going to the zf, whats involved?

Hey Kev,
Did you get a tranny temp gauge as well? That would give you an indication of how hard it's working (or not).

bronco buster

Picking up on Harvey's good suggestion of a trans temp gauge why don'y you kill to birds with one stone and install one of these;

http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=130396&toggle=fullsize&f=.jpg (http://www.superford.org/registry/vehicles/showmedia.php?id=130396&original=1)

It's a remote filter housing you just plumb into the tranny cooler lines and it filters out all the crap from your system in between your yearly internal filter changes.

Brought my AOD back to life and keeps the fluid pristine. It also provides a good spot to put the trans temp sender in (in the middle of the two big hose connections.

Permacool and Summit make kits you can install in half an hour. Check out my install here;

http://www.superford.org/registry/vehicles/detail.php?id=4970&s=17326#content

Many companies build supertough OD transmissions including lentechautomatics.com here in Canada.

Hope this one lasts for you

Sixlitre

Hey, I feel ya about the E40D being a piece of cr*p. I've had mine rebuilt twice and both time it screwed up worse then the time before, what it comes down to is they are too electronically reliable. Almost every aspect of transmission has some wire going here or there and is run through electronics, which just creates more thing that can go wrong.

Your idea of putting in performance parts to match the power of your truck is a good idea, but it can be a pricey one. Mine completely blew out about 2 months ago while I was out in chilliwack from Whistler area (a bit of a drive) and it decided to quit on me. I had to rev to the max while on the highway before it would finaly grab 3rd and then I couldn't go below about 80 or so otherwise it would slip out again, this made the cornering through squamish quite interesting.

Anyways, what it came down to for me was getting away from the electronicaly dependant P.O.S. I ended up buying my friends bronco which they had rolled a few years back and is a standard with a straight 6. I was going to do a transmission swap into mine for the E40D but the mountings on the manny tranny (in the rolled bronco) were broke from the roll and thus wouldnt mount into my truck. The bonus of switching away fromt he E40D is it eliminates alot of things that can go wrong (suprising amounts of wiring) which is why i wanted the manny tranny in. In the end I am now in the middle of finishing a body swap to the rolled bronco since its frame is fine and has better mechanics then mine. This all may not be much use to you, if you have any questions though please ask, in a family of mechanics about every aspect of trannies can be covered here. Take it easy.

Oh, and the C6 should slip right in, might be a better choice.

bronco buster

Picking up on Harvey's good suggestion of a trans temp gauge why don'y you kill to birds with one stone and install one of these;


Sixlitre

Thanks for the tip Sixlitre. Tranny has been runnin great so far. However the cruise hasn't worked so I'll have to get that checked out. I may take a boo underneath first. Don't really use overdrive so it's not a huge rush.

Just did the gears and went 4.56. With the 33's and overdrive she goes real good. 120kms/h and she's still pulling pretty good. Shouldn't have any problems towing now that I have all my torque back. I'll likely have everything checked out again b4 this summer's trip.

Hopefully have a tranny/engine temp gauge installed by this summer.

cheers,
Kev.

Hey guys, I just joined this forum, found it on internet search for e40d stuff.
last weekend going to the lake pulling the boat my 93 5.8 bronco started a shudder into gear and vibration at 50/55. I would like some ideas as what to do, I have 175000 on the truck, bought it at 140000. I like the idea of going to the zf, whats involved?

I've heard that you get a shudder/vibration right b4 your torque converter is about to go. 3-400 to replace it. If the torque converter goes, the fibrous metal that it's made of will shred the rest of the tranny. 3000.00 later you're kickin yourself in the ass for not replacing it. Unfortunately I didn't have any warning.

Kev

Hey guys, I just joined this forum, found it on internet search for e40d stuff.
last weekend going to the lake pulling the boat my 93 5.8 bronco started a shudder into gear and vibration at 50/55. I would like some ideas as what to do, I have 175000 on the truck, bought it at 140000. I like the idea of going to the zf, whats involved?

My F150 did the same thing with comparable milage. Mine was a center bearing that was destroyed and allowed the shaft it supported to vibrate. In 194000 kms my truck is on its 3rd E4OD that I know of (bought it used 2 years ago) and the sad thing is I haven't towed anything with it and it only has a 5.0. About the electrical, when I replaced mine the one connector has such a stupid way of securing to the tranny. It's the one that has a heat shield beside it because it's right beside the exaust, this made it brittle and when I took it off it broke costing me $100 to replace it :banghead