View Full Version : Any handgunners around ?
AHorseWithNoName 07-21-2004, 05:39 PM I spent the day off today putting up some fence on the backside of our property and got to noticing the deer sign everywhere. I just wondered if there were any deer hunters here that prefered hunting with a handgun as I do? I have a Ruger Blackhawk Hunter .44Mag with a Leupold 2x firing nothing but handloads. I figure anybody can get a deer at 200 yards with a rifle but , it takes a bit more skill and woodsmanship to take one at 50 yards ...freehand and fighting "buck fever". anyone else feel the same ?
PaulT 07-21-2004, 05:42 PM My dad hunts with a Virginia Dragoon 44 mag 8 3/8" barrell, open sites.
Of course, there's very few deer in NH.
Personally, I take my brother's Benelli 12ga semi auto. Sometimes he gets it back before the next year's season :toothless
Dangling_Dave 07-21-2004, 06:14 PM I have thought about handgun hunting. In fact I was going to TX to hunt wild pigs last Feb. and was going to use my 44-40 for that. I have never hunted deer or elk with one but no reason not to. I might use one of my hand guns when I go bear hunting this year.
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AHorseWithNoName 07-21-2004, 07:09 PM Ive hunted Oceola Ntnl. Forest in Florida a few times for wild pig. I love the place. Its 50,000 + acres of palmetto swamp. ...and skeeters....and some VERY big pigs.
Dangling_Dave 07-21-2004, 07:11 PM My pig hunting got canceled at the last moment :( Maybe next Feb. The people's place that I will hunt at are finding 350# pigs. That's a lot of bacon.
dc
bnkrtstk 07-21-2004, 09:24 PM I've hunted deer with a Taurus .44 mag 4inch barrel, and a S&W 625 Mountain Gun in .45colt. I had a rifle(30/30 Marlin) all with iron sights with me too, the pistol was there "in case" the shot arose. I have yet to take a deer down with a handgun, but the .44 was used to "finish" my last deer.
PA bear season is only two days long, but some day I will hunt bear with a handgun.
I carried a Colt SAA for coup de grāce. But I never needed it 'cause I hunted with a 6.5x55 Mauser.
SSgtTEX 07-21-2004, 09:40 PM I do my hunting with the M-16 :goodfinge but only when they let me have one, rest of the time it is with a wrench.
actually i have never been hunting. Strange aint it, born in OK, grew up in TX, now live in AL. and never hunted besides a buddy with a paintball gun. I need to go sometime
2fastnaz 07-21-2004, 11:19 PM Took an elk in Wa. state back in the 80s with a .357 security six and a few deer in OR with an old .41 Ruger flattop. Lately I've been hankering to get into the 1000 yard club but I won't be shooting a hand gun.
SuperDave 07-22-2004, 02:11 PM I got a Boar in TN with my Ruger 454 Casull
Dangling_Dave 07-22-2004, 02:13 PM Took an elk in Wa. state back in the 80s with a .357 security six and a few deer in OR with an old .41 Ruger flattop. Lately I've been hankering to get into the 1000 yard club but I won't be shooting a hand gun.
Man I would love to own a .41 flattop.
dc
2fastnaz 07-22-2004, 05:12 PM Man I would love to own a .41 flattop.
dc
Well I'll tell you a secret, since my last ol' lady boogied I would too. There aint much she didn't take.
Does anybody remember a stainless .45-70 single action somebody dreamed up back in the seventies? It looked like a Virginia Dragoon on steroids. Didn't sell very well but it was quite a curosity and got a lot of write-ups.
SuperDave 07-22-2004, 11:00 PM They are still made
.45-70 single action...They are still madeI'm surprized at that. Now I'm wrackin' my brain over the name. Do you know who makes them?
I can still picture it from the old American Rifleman article where I first saw it.
dosdovi 07-23-2004, 12:59 AM Navy Arms perhaps? :shrug
The only things I've taken with my llama 1911 are countless vermin, and ive used it to finish off a coyote. Other than that its just a back up.
I'm pretty sure Navy Arms didn't make the .45-70, it was some guy that wanted to stretch the envelope. Not really good for anything, unless you've got some pesky elephants eating the trees in your back yard.
It was humongous! Non-fluted five round cylinder, about an eight or ten inch barrel and weighed in at about eight or nine pounds! It'd make my 7½ bbl single action Army look like a toy.
bnkrtstk 07-23-2004, 10:29 AM I think it was the "BFR" (Biggest Finest Revolver) from Magnum Research
AHorseWithNoName 07-23-2004, 10:40 AM ...speaking of elephant medicine... I shot a T/C in .375 JDJ < I hope Im remembering correctly> that was a monster handfull ! My brother-in-law's Dad brought it up during Christmas. That had to be the hardest punch Ive ever felt from a handgun. But , it was dead accurate. If we're ever overrun with T-Rexs here , I'll buy one for myself. ....I figure thats the only way the wife will let me buy one anyway. :toothless
There's been some really weird stuff out there. Even .357 and .45LC Derringers. But there comes a time when the firearm/cartridge combo is best propped against the shoulder.
I FOUND THE .45-70!!!!
http://www.magnumresearch.com/products/BFR45-707_t.jpg
...and more stuff at...
http://forum.hunting.net/asppg/tm.asp?m=677245&mpage=1&key=
Wow. A .45-70 Derringer, a .50BMG revolver, a .500S&W revolver? Some folks gotta be crazy! :wacko
bnkrtstk 07-23-2004, 11:58 AM I FOUND THE .45-70!!!!
http://www.magnumresearch.com/products/BFR45-707_t.jpg
...and more stuff at...
http://forum.hunting.net/asppg/tm.asp?m=677245&mpage=1&key=
Wow. A .45-70 Derringer, a .50BMG revolver, a .500S&W revolver? Some folks gotta be crazy! :wacko
If your read my post an hour and half ago you wouldn't have had to look so hard. :goodfinge
Yeah! But no pic or link. Beside, only a couple minutes GOOGLEing. I think BFR might also mean something else! :D
But I don't really think that's the one I remember from years ago. The one in American Rifleman was single action and the BFR looks like it has a double action trigger.
SuperDave 07-24-2004, 12:25 AM Here are mine...
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile.php?id=135703&toggle=fullsize&f=.jpg
dosdovi 07-24-2004, 12:35 AM Wow. A .45-70 Derringer, a .50BMG revolver, a .500S&W revolver? Some folks gotta be crazy! :wacko
A .50BMG revolver :shocked . The rifles that shoot those kick bad, even with a muzzle break. But a revolver, wouldn't that break a wrist? I know of the .500 S&W and that it kicks like a mule, but a .50 bmg thats insane.
Maybe I'm thinkin of the wrong caliber :shrug
Iolaus 07-24-2004, 01:33 AM Does anybody remember a stainless .45-70 single action somebody dreamed up back in the seventies? It looked like a Virginia Dragoon on steroids. Didn't sell very well but it was quite a curosity and got a lot of write-ups. If it was stainless steel then it might've been the Magnum Research, like bnkrtstk said, except I'm pretty sure that the BFR came out in the mid 90's.
http://www.magnumresearch.com/bfr.asp
But for Dragoon looking, I've seen one of these in a friend's store that I think had a 10" barrel. It definately looks like an old-timer on steroids. I just emailed them, they said it's still for sale, $1650.
This one's for sale online for $1995. The picture doesn't tell you much until you compare the receiver to the grip. That thing's HUGE!!!
Phelps Manufacturing Model Heritage I .45-70 single action revolver. Mfd 1978. Utilizes transfer bar hammer safety, adjustable rear sight, 8" BBL, weight about 6 lbs. Very limited production.
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976364828.htm
http://www.gunsamerica.com/upload/976364828-1.jpg
dosdovi,Or maybe a .50BMG in a 10" or so barrel without a brake...just make sure your insurance (health and life) are paid up, 'cause you'll need one or the other when you're done.Oh yeah!!!
Blaze 07-24-2004, 10:53 AM bnkrtstk, and marv, it's not the BFR he was refering to...like iolaus stated they weren't made untill the late 90's at the earliest. He could have been refering to Magnum Researches "lone Wolf" or a version of the T/C "contender" but without looking all the way back to the original post, I think he said it "broke down" and both of the pistols I mentioned are single shot "bolts".
dosdovi, Unless I'm mistaken your refering to a .50 A&E not BMG. I've never seen a BMG handgun and tend to believe like you do that it would be "at best" a burden to shoot. I own a 50AE Desert Eagle, and am in the market for the 500S&W.
I've always wanted to hunt with a handgun, just have never gotten around to doing it..:shrug
Here's a comparison of the Phelps Heritage I .45-70 single action revolver with my Colt SAA. I resized the images keyed to the gripsize as close as I could:
http://users.mo-net.com/mcruzan/guns1.jpgSome posts from forum.hunting.net (http://forum.hunting.net/asppg/tm.asp?m=677245&mpage=1&key=) I saw pictures from the SHOT show of a 50 BMG pistol, I wouldn't want to try to hang on to it. A while back I read about a 50 bmg handgun . Maybe in the rifleman?I doubt that the .50BMG would be a wheel gun; probably a single shot like a Thompson Contender.
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Iolaus 07-24-2004, 01:06 PM Disclaimer for the completely gullible:
The preceding post was all satire.
smilienurse 07-24-2004, 03:28 PM While on the handgunning topic... I'm curious how many women/female S.O.'s carry? I currently have a taurus Millenium 9mm. I started out with S&W revolvers 38special/357 magnum, but quickly tired of them and went for the semi-automatic. I've actually found it's easier to conceal and more comfortable to wear.
My wife has an SIE .357 5-round satin stainless snubbie. Very good fit and finish.
The disadvantage I see with semi-auto pistols is that with a wheel gun, you always have another chance after a mis-fire or jam.
Blaze 07-24-2004, 07:57 PM My girl has a "lady" Smith .38 special.
AHorseWithNoName 07-25-2004, 04:26 AM My Rossi stainless .38 Spcl. is like American Express....."never leave home without it." Its low maintenance...accurate and reliabe.
Blaze 07-25-2004, 07:10 PM Oh... well, my personal carry is a "baby" Desert Eagle in 9mm(some say a 9 is weak and prefere the .40 but I prefer the 17 shots in my 9 vs. the 10 in a .40...if a mofo keeps coming after you puimp 17 rounds of anything in him, then it's just your destiny to "buy the farm"!!). It's either on me or in my rig at all times...period. I also have a .38 in the night stand, a berretta .25 at my computer decks with my Desert Eagle .50 on a shelf behind me in arms reach, and 44 mag. stashed in another part of the house...you never can be too safe, nor can you be sure which room you will be in during a home invasion..:shrug
P.S. thats far from all my pistols...thats just ones I keep loaded and stashed through the house...
And it may sound like it,..but I'm not a paraniod person just prepared...I don't store up water or stockpile C rations for the appocolypse or anything....
kht428 07-26-2004, 03:26 PM I carry an HK USP 45 with 10 in the mag and one in the chamber. ammo varies depending on season winter I'll use Corbon summer its Glaser safety slugs. Both +P ammo but penetration is different. Smilienurse switched to the millenium due to size concealability safety and ease of use. I've never had a misfire or jam that couldn't be cleared quickly however I have had a wheel gun that wouldnt advance the chamber thus not allowing the hammer to hit the primer happened on more than one occassion. I like the fact that I can pull the trigger multiple times on the same round or just eject and chamber a new one.Everyones different and you gotta use what you're comfortable with and trust your life with. :usa
Blaze 07-26-2004, 08:12 PM Everyones different and you gotta use what you're comfortable with and trust your life with. :usa
Thats the key to a good CCW gun. Any "expert" will tell you that you have to carry what works for you...:beer
Mad Ogre 07-27-2004, 12:18 AM Blaze, it's not a Baby Desert Eagle, it's just a "Baby Eagle" Magnum Research imports them, as does Uzi, which calls them the "Uzi Eagle". These guns are the descendants of the Jericho 941, a truly excellent pistol based on the CZ-75.
The CZ-75 is one of the finest handguns in the world, right there on par with SIG, Beretta, or the like.
I would love to get an Uzi Eagle compact in a brushed stainless finish.
BTW, I write for Concealed Carry Magazine and I'm into handguns big time:
http://www.madogre.com/weapons_section.htm
I have a few articles here...
My current carry guns are between a Beretta 8045 Mini Cougar in .45ACP and a Detonics Combat Master .45ACP.
I'm thinking about trading the Cougar for a soft top and a custom front bumper or bigger tires or something my Bronco needs. Not that I want to get rid of the Cougar, it's just that I need Bronco stuff more.
Mad Ogre 07-27-2004, 12:22 AM Oh wait... I stand corrected...
Looks like Magnum Research changed the name.... it is the baby desert eagle now.
Did they do that this year? It wasn't like that last time I looked at the MR catalog.
Blaze 07-27-2004, 12:28 AM Blaze, it's not a Baby Desert Eagle, it's just a "Baby Eagle" Magnum Research imports them, as does Uzi, which calls them the "Uzi Eagle". These guns are the descendants of the Jericho 941, a truly excellent pistol based on the CZ-75.
Oh I know all about the history..I own a .50 DE and a .44 mag DE, please the "baby"...and I've owned it for almost 10 years or so know (bought right before the ban...I looked for a Jericho and an Uzi but could only find the short barrels and I wanted fullsize...like I like my Broncos! :rockon) so I know comanly it's called the "baby eagle" yet no where on the firearm does it say "baby eagle" it does how ever have "desert eagle pistol" stamped right on the side...:shrug
Not nit picking just point out the facts... :beer
Mad Ogre 07-27-2004, 01:31 AM The full sized babies feel great in the hand, and look very cool.
If you watched the last Tomb Raider flick, the bad guy has a slick two toned version, and if you watched "Torque" you'll see a smooth stainless version. And Cowboy Bebop has the lead cartoon character packing one too.
Love the guns.
Actually MR is supposed to be sending me a couple compact poly framed versions in 9 and 40 to review for CCM. I'm sure they are going to be nice and all, but If I was to spend my own money on one, it would be with the solid metal frame. If I want a poly framed handgun, I'd buy an XD.
Blaze 07-27-2004, 06:36 AM The full sized babies feel great in the hand,
Thats exactly why I bought it...I picked it up and it felt like an extention of my arm...VERY nice feel.. :rockon
If you watched the last Tomb Raider flick, the bad guy has a slick two toned version, and if you watched "Torque" you'll see a smooth stainless version.
Yeah, I caught that...looks exactly like a Jericho I looked at once....
If I want a poly framed handgun, I'd buy an XD.
My thoughts exactly...but let me know when you do the reveiw...I'll ease over to your site and check it out... :thumbup
Mad Ogre 07-27-2004, 01:24 PM :rockon
damndog 09-19-2006, 01:50 PM yes I do I use the magun reaserch 45/70 gov. I've taken a few deer with it so far what a rush.
firelt90bronnco 09-19-2006, 06:55 PM I target shoot with a beretta 9mm, ruger .22 and others
Leardc 09-19-2006, 07:20 PM Wow.. this thread was over 2 years old.
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