This is awesome... I really want one!
http://www.serbu.com/shorty.htm

nice but that 12 looks like it would be hell on the hands and wrists

nice but that 12 looks like it would be hell on the hands and wrists

:stupid

Save that for the movies or tactically opening doors. Although there is a guy I know who keeps something similar in is house because with the shorter barrel there is more spread (which lets the burgalar know that your not going to miss) and also the pellets are less likly to go through the wall whereas regular bullets would. Thus possibly causing injury to someone in a nearby room.

This is awesome... I really want one!Just what a kid would say!

Some reasons why you shouldn't have one:
you're too young,
you don't need it,
you can only stand in front of a mirror for so long.


Sign me a life NRA member committed to safe gun sports.

They have a place. Usefull for VIP Protection or NARC work. The short barrel makes for a very short range weapon, and the limited capacity really limits it's tactical application.

If you want a really sick little gun, look up the Bushwacker by Wild West Guns in Alaska.

Probably break your hand, silly. I once tried to fire a friend's sawed-off, (to bare minimum legal length) double barrelled shotgun on a dare. The first round broke my finger (at least I swore it did- but it actually was a little better then next day) that was behind the trigger guard, and left a strip of skin and flesh from that finger flapping in the breeze. (and I have big strong paws)

you guys are pussies. this is a gun. and thats only my practice/target gun. i shoot it one handed all day long...
http://ge-bisse.subnet.dk/134s.jpg

i have only fired a standard length 12 guage at a skeet/trap range a few times

You want a sore sholder or a broken finger, try a .50-70 1868 Springfield carbine:

http://users.mo-net.com/mcruzan/springfield.jpg

i want a .50 cal sniper rifle

Don't have one of those, but how about an M1842 .69cal or a 10ga Zulu?

http://users.mo-net.com/mcruzan/more.jpg

http://www.mitchellsales.com/rifles/blackarrow/mitchellsales05.jpg

or http://www.desertcombat.com/ScreenShots/M82/m82-2-sm.jpg

http://home.swipnet.se/~w-52089/marine/Ag90.jpg

Those arnt bolt action are they?

nope sho aint

It wont break your hands. The recoil isnt all that bad because the barrel is so short the payload doesnt develope the enertial energy.
Watch the videos of the guy shooting it.
If recoil is such a concern, there are softer shotgun loads you can use. Like Federal Tacticals for one. Also the Aquila Mini Shells, which would double the shots carried.

It's a specialized limited application weapon. As far as loading it up with Master Key shells, I don't think that would work. I think you need at least a 14 inch barrel for that. Cause even out of a 12 inch it didn't work that well for me once.

I wouldn't even mind the 20 guage version... :shrug
-Casey
PS- That is just plain awesome... its my backround!

nope sho aint

Bolt actions are more accurate :goodfinge





















then again that one has a long ass range :shrug

I'll take 2 Barret M99 Single Shots

For all you lazy people :goodfinge :goodfinge :goodfinge
12 GUAGE VERSION
http://www.serbu.com/sus3s.jpg
20 GUAGE VERSION
http://www.serbu.com/SS20-s.jpg
-Gun nut.... er... Casey :toothless

http://www.mitchellsales.com/rifles/blackarrow/mitchellsales05.jpg

Now that's my kind of woman :hump

Now that's my kind of woman :hump
Now I'd like to see her aactually shoot it :goodfinge

Now I'd like to see her aactually shoot it :goodfinge

I'd like to see YOU shoot it. :goodfinge Actually I think you can bolt the bipod down :thumbup

wHY DO YOU GUYS ALWAYS PICK ON ME :cry
-Casey

wHY DO YOU GUYS ALWAYS PICK ON ME :cry
-Casey

Because you're like our cyber little brother :thumbup It's either pick on you ignore you. :shrug :toothless

Sounds fair :thumbup

Bolt actions are more accurate :goodfinge

then again that one has a long ass range :shrugNot neccessarily, not any more. It depends on the gun.

The same cartridge (bullet weight and type, powder weight and type) fired from rifles with the same barrel length, twist and condition will have greater range in a bolt action than a semi-auto. This is only because some of the gas in the semi-auto has to be siphoned off to re-cycle the bolt.

Accuracy is a function of the setting of the sights, the quality of the ammunition used and the condition of the barrel. And, of course, the skill of the shooter.

...Accuracy is a function of the setting of the sights, the quality of the ammunition used and the condition of the barrel. And, of course, the skill of the shooter.

I have to add here that the device (i.e. Rifle, Handgun, machine rest, action vice, etc) used to fire the round must be built to do everthing exactly the same way everytime. By everything I mean how the action moves in the stock, how the recoil surfaces hit the stock, how and at what frequency the barrel vibrates, even how hard the striker (firing pin) hits the primer. If you can get the powder oriented in the case the same way everytime that is of benifit too.

And one more; if the firearm keeps a close group in a rest, the firearm is accurate. Then, if the shooter keeps a close group, the shooter is also accurate.

It isn't just "point'n'shoot", it's a real science. Check out some NRA events.

Sign me a life NRA member committed to safe gun sports.


:clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap Me too :thumbup :thumbup

The same cartridge (bullet weight and type, powder weight and type) fired from rifles with the same barrel length, twist and condition will have greater range in a bolt action than a semi-auto. This is only because some of the gas in the semi-auto has to be siphoned off to re-cycle the bolt.

Accuracy is a function of the setting of the sights, the quality of the ammunition used and the condition of the barrel. And, of course, the skill of the shooter.
All too true!!! Well said Marv! :clap