After converting to SAS are you guys glad you changed ride quailty wise?
Highway and city driving ride quality that it.
I am wondering because the ride quality on my truck is getting annoying at times and wonder if it better just to try to plan a SAS.

I guess it really depends upon how you define ride quality.

In my case I believe it improved because the truck is more predictable and responsive on the highway.

A somewhat poor comparison might be to say the TTB rides like a HUGE '70's Lincoln or Caddy (sorta) while my SAS rides more like a sports car (again, sorta). You're more aware of bumps and irregularities in the road (you learn to tune it out real quick), but the tradeoff is that the truck is just flat more responsive and predictable as I said.

I've always preferred road feel over a mushy ride, so I love it.

Those with coil sprung SAS's may have other experiences.

Bottom line, does it ride better? Maybe. Does it drive better? Hell yes!

mine rides more like a truck,which it is....not like the car ford tried to turn it into.

I can go and wheel now without having the handling(tierod/draglink tweak,alignment issues) change everytime i hit pavement for the ride home.

The components last longer...balljoints,bearings

Moderate change in ride hieght is no problem while you play with different spring combos,radius arm designs..etc..

i'm very glad I did it and ecourage everyone else to try it.

Rides like a truck should. It is firm but not bone jarring in the least. Much better road feel and driveability.

DO THE SAS!!!!!! You won't be sorry. All the PITA stuff was worth it the first trip around the block.

I can go and wheel now without having the handling(tierod/draglink tweak,alignment issues) change everytime i hit pavement for the ride home.

Yep, I was thinking that after I posted. I could never leave the trail with TTB without having my steering wheel sitting in a different position than when I started (going straight on the hiway). Once I did the SAS that problem went away.

There's something about the TTB steering system..... Team TFI really fawked that one up, and the Superrunner steering is only marginally better, like trying to polish a turd.

Thanks. Maybe i need to go for a ride in a SAS bronco too.

mine rides more like a truck,which it is....not like the car ford tried to turn it into.



that best describes it I think....and yeah try and ride in one, thats what sold me.

like trying to polish a turd.


hahahaha :cheers: there you have it :mrgreen:

or it could be like putting lipstick on a pig.

I love having the reliabilty of the SAS. Your tires are never /--0-\. I hated that, and still do, just waiting for a few more parts for the SAS on my Bronco. My truck's alittle stiff, but thats the Superjunk coils I have. I guess the were designed to hold up more weight than I have. So spring choice should be a big concern.

Some of you may remember I said I was having this issue /--0-\ , and it's wearing the snot outta my tires.
I've been considering SAS and fixing the TTB (first time for me, prolly not the last to hear you guys) but I do have one very real concern...

When I owned my 78 (MISS IT BADLY) the one thing that drove me NUTS about it was that the steering had about 1 1/2 - 2 inches travel-slack.

I took her to 3 different places, replaced steering box etc etc... everytime it came back the same. I even had two of the places flat out tell me that was as good as it was going to get... it was a factory problem and there was no way to fix it.

Before that I had bought a new front axle for a 78' CJ-7 and had it installed by LesSchwab. Took the same problem and fixed it for good!


Is this a problem for any of you SAS converts.
Do any of you pre-TTB guys know what I'm talking about?

This is just one of those things I'm worried about with an SAS.
My TTB may sit like this /--o-\ , but she drives w/out the super slack issue.

I know what you mean Pepe'... My F-150's steering has pretty good amount of play in it. You SAS guys having this same problem now or did you fix that? If so what all did you do?

Mines not bad, I have loose tie rods though. I would believe if I changed them I would have awsome steering. I just don't drive it enough to worry about it.

When I owned my 78 (MISS IT BADLY) the one thing that drove me NUTS about it was that the steering had about 1 1/2 - 2 inches travel-slack.

Is this a problem for any of you SAS converts.
Do any of you pre-TTB guys know what I'm talking about?

My TTB may sit like this /--o-\ , but she drives w/out the super slack issue.

When I first completed the SAS my steering was tight compared to the TTB. I always thought the TTB had a lot of play in the steering wheel.

Much of that play has since returned, so something is worn. I haven't looked at tie rods real close but my stock steering box has 190k on it; I suspect this is the culprit even tho I've tightened down the screw a good bit it doesn't make much difference.

ALSO: 78/9's have drastically different steering boxes so you're comparing apples to oranges with '80+.

But it's a truck man, not some new Toyota or Isuzu with rack and pinion!

I think I took some of the slack out of mine with the sas, which was caused by worn parts and since I built all the steering links everything was brand new again. I still have some play but not a ton and I think I can take most of it out with adjusting the box or replacing the box if needed

But it's a truck man, not some new Toyota or Isuzu with rack and pinion!

Rack and pinion steering is the way to go, too bad it looks horrible on a soild front axle.

Also, becarefull of what you say, the new Fords have it too!

So will the superrunner steering work with the SAS?? some of the posts seem like yall are saying that it wont work, but if the stock steering bolts up to the D44 why wouldnt the superrunner?? I notice a big diffrence in steering response when i go from the bronco to my friends lightning or my dads accord, or excursion even. is there any way to get it like their steering?? I can move the wheel back n forth quiet a bit while driving without much response
I'm hoping to get nateTTB's 6in around Xmas time, I really want to go SAS but i dont think im knowledgeable enough, a 6in kit that bolts right on seems the way to go for a 16year old's city driven truck.
later on i will definatly go SAS i just can't find a '79's D44 around here cheap enough, and shippings to much for the cheap ones from everyone else.

Rack and pinion steering is the way to go,
No it's not.

Rack and pinion steering is the way to go, too bad it looks horrible on a soild front axle.

Also, becarefull of what you say, the new Fords have it too!

Rack and pinion is notoriously weak when abused off-road, and it's harder and more expensive to service.

The new Super Duty's don't use rack & pinion, altho I'm assuming this is what '97+ F150s use

Tacomas have rack and pinion. Huge liability on the trail, and doesn't perform very well if the truck is lifted.

Leave the rack and pinion to the cars.

my SAS bronco rides smoother on the street but starts to wander at high speeds where the TTB was harsh riding but very stable at high speeds. on dirt roads with the SAS its pretty harsh. i think the TTB was a bit better on the dirt roads