antibiotics and alcohol

plug ugly
08-15-2005, 02:08 PM
so is it a myth, or real that you are not supposed to have alcohol and antibiotics? Im taking penicillin for strep throat and desperately want a beer.

what say you?

johnski
08-15-2005, 02:14 PM
It won't kill you, just don't make a habit of it. As I understand it, alcohol can inhibit the body's ability to process the antibiotics properly in the liver, making the antibiotics ineffective. Have you tried checking WebMD?

stangmata
08-15-2005, 02:45 PM
It won't kill you, just don't make a habit of it. As I understand it, alcohol can inhibit the body's ability to process the antibiotics properly in the liver, making the antibiotics ineffective. Have you tried checking WebMD?

He's correct according to theory. However, at one point I was on amoxicillin for like 3 months straight. I had beer every day. (May have been why I couldn't kick that damn sinus infection)

WOOD
08-15-2005, 03:17 PM
I drink beer with pain killers and anti-depressents all the time...You'll be fine? :scratchhe

plug ugly
08-15-2005, 03:33 PM
see, the theory part is what gets me. I am thinking its an old wives tale, but cant find any good info on the net.

The Von
08-15-2005, 03:49 PM
I talked to my doctor about this exact thing. He told me that as long as you dont drink in excess its ok. Its really about overtaxing your liver. But a beer or two is ok....also dont do it for a extended period of time (over 2 weeks)

Joes93Bronco
08-15-2005, 03:52 PM
i dont think its true, however getting shitfaced puts a big drain on your body so keep it within reason. however if you are on the pill whether because of bad acne or just to avoid gettin pregnant, antibiotics WILL make the pill ineffective. so drink beer, but no unprotected sex or you might wind up knocked up :goodfinge

Potamus
08-15-2005, 03:54 PM
Just remember, it's extra mileage on your live, and that's harder to replace than spark plugs.

78bronco460
08-15-2005, 04:04 PM
Beer has yeast in it. I don't know mecidine, but if the antibiotic is sposed to be killing bugs it might go after the beer instead of the bugs and not get you well. Good luck.

plug ugly
08-15-2005, 04:07 PM
. so drink beer, but no unprotected sex or you might wind up knocked up :goodfinge

whew, thats good to know. Sure would have been embarrassing trying to explain to my mom how her son got pregnant.
:scratchhe

Joes93Bronco
08-15-2005, 04:11 PM
i wouldnt want to be there if you had to

DigDugDaddy
08-15-2005, 04:30 PM
Yeah, everything I know/been told is just lessen the effects of the medicine. I agree with taking a few Vicodin or Demorall and washing it down with a 12-pack. Sleep like a baby, wake up two days later.

I had kidney stones about 4 years ago. Doc gave me Vicodin for the pain afterwards (and a damn screened funnel to pee in). All kinds of beat and tired when I finally got home. Took 4 Vicodin, 3 Nyquil, a 6-pack of Mike's hard lemonade, a copious amounts of bong hits. Went to bed Tuesday night, woke up to a beautiful sunny day, birds chirping, feeling better than ever. Except for the fact it was Thursday afternoon and I had to piss like a racehorse. Won't ever be doing that again.

Joes93Bronco
08-15-2005, 04:34 PM
Yeah, everything I know/been told is just lessen the effects of the medicine. I agree with taking a few Vicodin or Demorall and washing it down with a 12-pack. Sleep like a baby, wake up two days later.

I had kidney stones about 4 years ago. Doc gave me Vicodin for the pain afterwards (and a damn screened funnel to pee in). All kinds of beat and tired when I finally got home. Took 4 Vicodin, 3 Nyquil, a 6-pack of Mike's hard lemonade, a copious amounts of bong hits. Went to bed Tuesday night, woke up to a beautiful sunny day, birds chirping, feeling better than ever. Except for the fact it was Thursday afternoon and I had to piss like a racehorse. Won't ever be doing that again.


you are quickly becomming my newest hero

DigDugDaddy
08-15-2005, 04:36 PM
you are quickly becomming my newest hero

What can I say, it's amazing what a country boy does when released on his on in the city.

johnski
08-15-2005, 04:41 PM
see, the theory part is what gets me. I am thinking its an old wives tale, but cant find any good info on the net.
It's not an old wives tale. Pulled this from WebMD...
How Alcohol and Drugs Interact
To exert its desired effect, a drug generally must travel through the bloodstream to its site of action, where it produces some change in an organ or tissue. The drug's effects then diminish as it is processed (metabolized) by enzymes and eliminated from the body. Alcohol behaves similarly, travelling through the bloodstream, acting upon the brain to cause intoxication, and finally being metabolized and eliminated, principally by the liver. The extent to which an administered dose of a drug reaches its site of action may be termed its 'availability.' Alcohol can influence the effectiveness of a drug by altering its availability. Typical alcohol-drug interactions include the following. (7) First, an acute dose of alcohol (a single drink or several drinks over several hours) may inhibit a drug's metabolism by competing with the drug for the same set of metabolizing enzymes. This interaction prolongs and enhances the drug's availability, potentially increasing the patient's risk of experiencing harmful side effects from the drug. Second, in contrast, chronic (long term) alcohol ingestion may activate drug-metabolizing enzymes, thus decreasing the drug's availability and diminishing its effects. After these enzymes have been activated, they remain so even in the absence of alcohol, affecting the metabolism of certain drugs for several weeks after cessation of drinking. (8) Thus, a recently abstinent chronic drinker may need higher levels of certain drugs. Third, enzymes activated by chronic alcohol consumption transform some drugs into toxic chemicals that can damage the liver or other organs. Fourth, alcohol can magnify the inhibitory effects of sedative and narcotic drugs at their sites of action in the brain. To add to the complexity of these interactions, some drugs affect the metabolism of alcohol, thus altering its potential for intoxication and the adverse effects associated with alcohol consumption. (7)

AND

Antibiotics
Antibiotics are used to treat infectious diseases. In combination with acute alcohol consumption, some antibiotics may cause nausea, vomiting, headache, and possibly convulsions; among these antibiotics are furazolidone (Furoxone®), griseofulvin (Grisactin® and others), metronidazole (Flagyl®), and anti-malarial quinacrine (Atabrine®) (7). Isoniazid and rifampin are used together to treat tuberculosis, a disease especially problematic among the elderly (12) and among homeless alcoholics. (13) Acute alcohol consumption decreases the availability of isoniazid in the bloodstream, whereas chronic alcohol use decreases the availability of rifampin. In each case, the effectiveness of the medication may be reduced. (7)

I guess what I knew was right (for once). A beer won't be the downfall of your medication, but "acute" alcohol consumption can lessen the effectiveness of your antibiotics. Interesting how the side effects of acute alcohol consumption along with antibiotics is pretty much the same as if you weren't taking antibiotics at all.

GHOSTRIDER
08-15-2005, 05:42 PM
its WIMMIN and alchohol that dont mix! Taken and used separately, however, they can be fun.

plug ugly
08-15-2005, 06:04 PM
good info johnski

johnski
08-15-2005, 06:06 PM
good info johnski
:twotu:

pissrpr
08-15-2005, 06:12 PM
thanks for clearing it up johnski. I've still got an old rumor to add though.....

I heard that it was a myth that started when sailors were being treated for any of a number of vd's with antibiotics. The doctors would tell them not to drink while on the drugs so that they wouldn't go spread the crap around from port to port or catch a new one for that matter. I guess they were equating booze with women with sex with vd's.

MUDDOG7375
08-15-2005, 06:20 PM
Antibiotics & beer are if you keep it light...

I also drink with anti depressents...The shrink say its ok if I dont over do the drinking...Well that went out the door for the last month..

imlikeojnow
08-15-2005, 07:16 PM
Does the bottle have the Government reccomendation....er warning?

Alcohol may intensify the affect?

Sway
08-15-2005, 07:29 PM
I would drink the beer, but thats just me. I could really use some beer right now too, I still cant jet my rig to run and Im going crazy!

Potamus
08-15-2005, 09:48 PM
good info johnski
That's why they call hin Sir johnski. :upup:

johnski
08-15-2005, 11:04 PM
That's why they call him Sir johnski. :upup:
YES! We must never forget. :twotu: :Pickle: :muscle071

Bri_Guy5
08-16-2005, 02:54 AM
i wouldnt want to be there if you had to

i would, the look on her face would be priceless....:rofl:

sorry for the hijack plug

prcrbob
08-16-2005, 10:38 AM
I didn't realize they were two different things :scratchhe

in moderation you are okay, but like was stated earlier, your body will naturally try to cleanse the alcohol, so your immune system ends up working harder.

Mels
08-16-2005, 11:54 AM
.... and I had to piss like a racehorse.

My mom hates it when I say that. http://www.girlongirlracing.com/forum/images/smiles/ughlaugh.gif

Then one day she finally asked me if racehorses piss more than regular horses and apparantly they do, if they were given Lasix before the race.

There's your totally random bit of information for the day.

93sky4x
08-16-2005, 02:46 PM
well i guess i should have been reading this thread some time ago. school's about to start and i still have tonsilitis and been takin some meds and drinkin, hell, i ain't had a solid crap in 3 days

DigDugDaddy
08-16-2005, 03:33 PM
Get you one of them Hardee's Monster Thickburger's and trust me, you'll have a nice solid crap. Take a few stool softners while your at it. Don't need to be tearing nothing while pushing out a log. Hate seeing blood in the toilet.

2fastnaz
08-16-2005, 03:46 PM
I can tell you for a fact that Navy Dr.s tell you do not drink while on antibiotics, and yes you could be right.