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BorderBronco
09-03-2005, 02:46 PM
Just curious if anyone else is capable of laying down a strip of rubber when feeling the need? I've noticed that my Bronc just doesn't seem to have the necessary juice. I'm curious if it's the e40d and if a transgo shift kit will help me cure my need to burn off some rubber before I replace them. The motor seems to have plenty of power available as I recently cruised from Minneapolis to home at 140kph+ and still got 10mpg(4 1/2 hour drive). I averaged 15-16 on the drive down at 110 most of the way.

The vehicle is stock all the way around to the best of my knowledge as I've only been a FSB owner for 2 months now. Thanks guys.

Steve

Dragon
09-03-2005, 06:45 PM
my bronco doesn't leave any strips of rubber unless i lock up the brakes.
i have the EFI 302 and AOD with 3.55 gears and 31's for tires, and it still accelerates very well!

looking at it though, do you want to wear down the tires any quicker?

if you feel the power isn't quite there, when was the last time you had a tune up done?
may need to clean up the throttle body, and do some other mild enhancements (like bump the timing to 13.5*, change to the MSD coil, regap the spark plugs, etc.).
see if you can find the seafoam stuff everyone seems to be talking about and add that to the mix of "things to do".

mcaldwell
09-03-2005, 10:14 PM
Mine is similar (92 w 5.8L), and I asked the same question in another thread. The concensus is that with a half decent set of tires, I'm not likely to be laying tread anytime soon. Mine also picks up and goes very well, so I am happy with it's performance.

No wheelspin is no problem for me, I'm not 21 anymore. :toothless

ToddACimer
09-03-2005, 10:33 PM
I can light my 33's up on a good day but it's just a waste of money.

Seabronc
09-03-2005, 11:34 PM
I think you are looking for a little too much from a stock Bronco. You might be able to accomplish it with gearing but you may also wreck axles. If you want to push her like that consider beefing up your drive train. Unless you are running a dragster and need the tires hot to get traction, you are loosing the race spinning your wheels while the other guy is leaving you in the dust. If you notice in drag racing, the guy whos tires stop spinning and grab hold of the pavement first is the winner, if the engines and drivers are pretty much an even match. What you actually need for a street race is traction and power that is right on the edge of breaking the wheels free, ignoring a couple of other things like power to weight ratio and stuff :duh .

:thumbup

Bluebeast
09-04-2005, 01:26 AM
yes a 393, 31s and 3.55LS will lay it down..

Sixlitre
09-04-2005, 02:00 AM
Just curious if anyone else is capable of laying down a strip of rubber when feeling the need? I've noticed that my Bronc just doesn't seem to have the necessary juice. I'm curious if it's the e40d and if a transgo shift kit will help me cure my need to burn off some rubber before I replace them. The motor seems to have plenty of power available as I recently cruised from Minneapolis to home at 140kph+ and still got 10mpg(4 1/2 hour drive). I averaged 15-16 on the drive down at 110 most of the way.

The vehicle is stock all the way around to the best of my knowledge as I've only been a FSB owner for 2 months now. Thanks guys.

Steve

One of the few times mine barked em' going into second was the first test flight after we finished this new Y-pipe;

http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/detail.php?id=4970&s=17318#content

It was like somebody tossed us 40 ft/lbs of torque instantly. It had never barked em' going into second and it actually got real loose on dry pavement then.

That was 90,000 miles ago and in between I've been able to break em' loose on take off, though that's never been my aim. Traction is everything in a street fight. The day I held off a Maxima going for an on ramp impressed the hell out of my youngest brother. If I'd spun a tire I'd have lost that 0-50mph battle.

My mileage is down from what it used to be, but even so, I was astonished by a 150 mile round trip into the Quebec hills and back, up to Kazabazuwah a month or so back.

I was tucked in behind this Murano who was really moving on the way back and I hit speeds well into the dash(over 150 km/h or 90+mph) keeping up to him as we blew by whole lines of cars we were passing. We were rarely under 140 km/h (86+ mph).

When I got home I filled up and calculated the mileage. In Canadian it was 23 mpg even with all that screaming around type driving. Translated that equates to 19.1 mpg in American during a rod the pi$$ out of your vehicle run.

My all time best was 21.6 mpg (American), but that was when the new longblock was young. To be getting that much power and mileage from an older 5.0 litre is a testament to what that Y-pipe does for these trucks.

IMO

Sixlitre

BorderBronco
09-04-2005, 10:44 AM
I fully understand what wheel spin can equate to in a street race but that isn't my aim. I just sold my Eagle Talon which was heavily modified and all-wheel drive. It was never my goal to have power to lay down a strip of rubber. It's just fun to have enough power to do it on demand. And trust me, an all-wheel drive burnout is just too much fun.
Thanks for the advice on the y pipe. Looks like I'll be doing some shopping and upgrading some pieces here and there.

beisel1111
09-04-2005, 12:36 PM
Mine bronco will if i'm pulling out and turning right. I tried powerbreaking it once or twice :toothless and it would spin both back tires with no problem.

BorderBronco
09-04-2005, 04:10 PM
I tried the powerbraking, which I'm assuming is holding the brakes and pinning the gas. Didn't bust loose. I'm wondering if the transgo shift kit really helps improve the slush box that is the e40d.

MatthewC
09-04-2005, 05:18 PM
Bronco's are just too friggen heavy in the back end to spin the rubbers, at least in bone stock form. Maybe hitting a hard right turn on a hot day, but nothing like a long box pickup. Buy some cheap 235's for the rear, do a big burnout and take a picture. No-one will know the difference. Except me, cause I told you.

-Matt

Sixlitre
09-04-2005, 05:26 PM
Roasted My Dunlop GTs 275/60/15s no trouble !

Bumping the ignition ahead helps out big time

Sixlitre

Dragon
09-04-2005, 06:54 PM
Mine bronco will if i'm pulling out and turning right. I tried powerbreaking it once or twice :toothless and it would spin both back tires with no problem.

just turning right?
mine will when turning left or right.....
and as for powerbraking or doing a brakestand, well, i lost (2) 31's very quickly but the big grin on my face lasted alot longer.

Bronco Buster
09-04-2005, 07:25 PM
U guys are too funny.

I wish my Bronco could do that but even with the 5.0, 4.56 gears and everything tuned up well, it won't do it. Unless I'm cornering and stomping on it that is.

That's probably why I'm thinkin 351W swap.

Kev.

Sixlitre
09-04-2005, 09:11 PM
U guys are too funny.

I wish my Bronco could do that but even with the 5.0, 4.56 gears and everything tuned up well, it won't do it. Unless I'm cornering and stomping on it that is.

That's probably why I'm thinkin 351W swap.

Kev.

Have you cleared this 351 swap with OPEC ?

Sixlitre

bossind
09-04-2005, 09:33 PM
Buy a mustang if you want to burn rubber. lol :)

Bronco Buster
09-06-2005, 10:58 PM
Have you cleared this 351 swap with OPEC ?

Sixlitre


ROFLMAO

jimsl78
09-07-2005, 06:10 PM
OK so this is the plan,
If you have a kick ass sound system, get that CD with the sounds of NHRA's superstock class and park in a corner of the parking lot away from were the local cruise will take place that night.
In the mean time do the seafoam thing and go for have dinner, check out the rides whatever.
Later as the musclecars and hot rod guys begin to show off with the burnouts,
crank up the volume
of that NHRA CD and let her smoke as you slowly exit the lot.
That"ll show them.
(a fun alternative to the midnight seafoam method)
:rockon

Sixlitre
09-07-2005, 06:56 PM
OK so this is the plan,
If you have a kick ass sound system, get that CD with the sounds of NHRA's superstock class and park in a corner of the parking lot away from were the local cruise will take place that night.
In the mean time do the seafoam thing and go for have dinner, check out the rides whatever.
Later as the musclecars and hot rod guys begin to show off with the burnouts,
crank up the volume
of that NHRA CD and let her smoke as you slowly exit the lot.
That"ll show them.
(a fun alternative to the midnight seafoam method)
:rockon

A devious and cunning plan !

Sixlitre

bronco boy
09-08-2005, 11:31 AM
Just curious if anyone else is capable of laying down a strip of rubber when feeling the need?


Not now. When she was stock, I could get some "one tire fire" pulling out of a parking lot.

I leave the real burn outs to the DD! :thumbup


http://chrisb.users.superford.org/Thunderbird/LS_Rebuild/July_19-05_02.JPG

94Bronce
09-19-2005, 11:44 AM
with my 31 she used to light the tires , but that was after the duel exhaust the cold air intake , and high performance plugs and wires .

when i put the 33 on i had put put in a set of 4/11 gears to get it back , it's only got the stock 302 with 330,000 k on it thow .