i have a design for a 93 bronco that i drew up at 1/4 scale i need help to the for engine cage area, and the top layout thanks

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http://C:\Documents and Settings\Justin Case Loomis\My Documents\My Pictures\ebay\MVC-036F.JPG lets hope this works

First you have to upload them to a host then you can post them

We recommend superford.org, for that. There's a forum here, that explains how to do that

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/uhmw1/detail?.dir=/7e63&.dnm=3a06.jpg&.src=ph

http://http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/uhmw1/detail?.dir=/7e63&.dnm=3a06.jpg&.src=ph

cool dog:thumbup

here are mine. I figured I keep people ocupied til you got your pics ready

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/gsbroncos/Dogs/DSCN7899.jpg

http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=254014

back up link

http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=254014

thanks that is brain one of 7 total all at my dads,

http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/....php?id=254014

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/254014/original/MVC-036F.JPG

As nice as the design looks, it won't offer much more than looks. There needs to be more triangulation, than the large bends you're showing

straight section tubing will be alot stronger than those bends that are there for looks. for a section of tubing that will be loaded on each end, a straight tube will take the load inline with its axis and not want to buckle. i'm not talking about bends that need to be there on the cage, but your large radius "for looks" bends in the rear section. is this an exocage? engine cages that are internal don't need to be clearenced for tires because they are inside of the tire. i'm also not sure how you would go through the firewall that high up.

yea i know that all that curves aren't very strong it is just that i haven't com up with a asthetic design with staright tube, that is why i am asking for help, i just need to keep the outline, the interior is crap,

http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/detail.php?id=10269&s=29120#content


since i can't directly post my pics, i just gave you the link to my site, i just made up some quick sketches with paint , thanks fro your input, i am trying to find a stronger but "pretty" cage design that will also allwo for head romm i am 6'3" and to be easy for people in the back to get in, thanks again

I built this cage for a 95 Bronco
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/242793/fullsize/IMG_0035.JPG
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/242794/fullsize/IMG_0036.JPG
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/242801/fullsize/IMG_0037.JPG
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/242802/fullsize/IMG_0038.JPG
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/242803/fullsize/IMG_0039.JPG
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/242804/fullsize/IMG_0040.JPG
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/242805/fullsize/IMG_0041.JPG

droool, drooooooool
i was think of sumthing like that too, real nice

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/254152/fullsize/hasdj.JPG

i would like to keep the horizontal tube so later on i can build a bed cap in case i want to go topless while not leaving my cargo protecded from would be snatchrs
i got the pic posting routin yea

http://www.auto-trim.com/images/silveradovisor.jpg

do these things damage gas mileage???

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/254218/fullsize/curvy%20dervy.JPG how does this loo with the gusseting, so the passengers have a clear veiw??/

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=163634&stc=1&d=1103738422
like this cage "works" but iss ****ing ugly and i personally would never be associated

my goal is build build a simplistic cage that is strong yet i don't cringe when i look at it like the one i just posted

help please

http://fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44417

i thought i might ask for help hoping that some of you would have goods ideas such as the guy who posted the pics of his cage, where as chambiec is being a little bitch, no offense. i plan on building 1/4 scale cages in a couple designs i like then crush test them

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/search.php?searchid=1574874
10 second search on Pirate4x4

I'm being a little bitch? I'm just telling you what I learned from doing the same thing your doing.
Yes, you are, and you also have no practical experience building... anything. So, before you spout off about giving fabricating advice, and start getting "mouthy" about someone who, as far as you know, isn't taking the advice you're so desperately trying to give, get yourself some real world experience, then share what you've learned


loomis, I've given a tip about using triangulation. If you didn't know that already, it's going to be an important piece of information to have, in building that cage. If you'd like I can help in designing a cage for you. Feel free to email me at diamondbackmotorsports@gmail.com

i dont think he was being a little bitch, just giving back the same thing that you all gave him, like he said.

take it to a pro have him build it like you want. how many people started a cage based on looks first? who cares if the passengers can see?? if your moving, then the cage wont be blocking the scenery for long. build it for its purpose and then make mods for asthetic reasons IF they are structurally sound. is it an exo that you want or interior cage?

share your ideas dave, draw something out and post it. and dont we already have a cage thread??

ok i am a pro i have been running autocad scince i was 8, i have been programing cnc mills scine i was 9 and working in a machine shop doing professional comercial run and one off machined parts and i do autcad work from a internet setup company based out of florida that installs internet on yachts that cost millions. so i just wanted to see what others have had to offer, thanks david i will take you up on your offer, and my god father the guy i worked for this summer does comercial custom welding fabrication and building so i am set

i am going for interior cage and the reason i am allowing the passengers to see is that the cage will be made out of 2 inch di .125 wall steel tube and attach directly to the frame in 12 or 14 points these do not include the engine all 14 points are for the passenger and cargo area only, my 4x4 friend cracked up when i showed him the amended plan, to which he replied are you planning rolling this down a mountain then walk out ?

dont we already have a cage thread??
you mean the one squattyd posted about five posts before yours?:doh0715: :toothless

yep but i didnt' want to mess it up this being my first post and the yacht i worked on this summer was 3 hundred million dollars

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/254717/fullsize/MVC-036F.JPG

because autcad isn't all that great for quick drawing, as soon as i finalize a design i like then i will autocad it and sent it to my god father to weld up, he would be welding a model probly 1/4 scale see if it all looks right then i will test it

because autcad isn't all that great for quick drawing, as soon as i finalize a design i like then i will autocad it and sent it to my god father to weld up, he would be welding a model probly 1/4 scale see if it all looks right then i will test it
May I ask how old you are?

i am 16,

the reason i will not use autocad for quick drawing is because i would go ocd and dimension, ie i would design it to spec at full size it and that just doesn't allow for quick design progression

look for the thread in the 78-79 section that was started by a member named crawler. he has a full interior cage that goes thru the engine area and out front to the bumper. its way tied in. thats not your year, but that should do.

what i meant is that you may be a pro at autocad, your have relatives that make alo of neat stuff, but take your truck to an experienced cage builder for some options as well. they know better without having to model.

oh, maybe you could use the edit and put all of your ideas in one post and not post after post after post

after post. thanks Loomis. hey that was a character on "Living Color" wasnt Loomis a pimp??

Yes, you are, and you also have no practical experience building... anything. So, before you spout off about giving fabricating advice, and start getting "mouthy" about someone who, as far as you know, isn't taking the advice you're so desperately trying to give, get yourself some real world experience, then share what you've learned


loomis, I've given a tip about using triangulation. If you didn't know that already, it's going to be an important piece of information to have, in building that cage. If you'd like I can help in designing a cage for you. Feel free to email me at diamondbackmotorsports@gmail.com


Ouch:lowblow

i am 16,


So am I. I go along with everyone else. You need some triangulation like you last desing but keep the main hoop in the middle straight up and down for strength. Straight is stronger than a bend. You don't need that bend ther as you don't see it anyways as it is hidden by the body

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/242804/fullsize/IMG_0040.JPG
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/242805/fullsize/IMG_0041.JPG

You need some triangulation

at least you got some triangulation on those oh shit handles.

goofin around in autocad since you were a toddler doesnt make you a professional. and "working" for your god father doesnt make you one either. its great that you have that experience, but it doesnt lend to being a master fabricator and cage builder.

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/254717/fullsize/MVC-036F.JPG

you dont really need a 14 pt, 2" dom cage. 1 and 3/4" will be plenty strong, with 8 or 10 points will be easier to fit, and leave you more room in the passanger compartment. you dont need all those runners connecting the wheel well to the cage. make the main hoop (b pillar) straight when looking at it from the side, not bent forward like you have it there. keep it simple, and wherever you have the chance to make a triangle in the main structure, try to incorporate it. unless you have a large radius CNC bender, those bends above the wheel wells will be near impossible to make. if you have one, then go for it.

ok i am a pro i have been running autocad scince i was 8, i have been programing cnc mills scine i was 9 and working in a machine shop doing professional comercial run and one off machined parts
autocad skillz does not a cage master make.
and i do autcad work from a internet setup company based out of florida that installs internet on yachts that cost millions.
and we all know that putting internet onto yachts is the same thing as designing a functional roll cage.

idk about that pimp thing loomis is just my last name which evryone calls me by. the reason i want to do the cage models is so i can build a 1/4 scale rc version of my truck

those aren't runners that whole area is suspended above the wheel well so they can be bolted to the fram

i am not saying i am a master fabricator all i am saying is that i have a bitchin background

i haven't been goofing around i am a master machinist, and caprpenter, my whole life i have helped rebuilt a farmhouse and farm equipment, i do better work than my dad who has been in the buisness for 30 years yea i know the 14 point is way to much i just got carried away

andy i am not saying i have the skills to build the cage i am saying i have a mfing good background in engineering, oh by the way i am taking college engineering courses

I'm not going to question your fabricating skills...I dont care.

However, I am going to question your mastery of putting all your thoughts into 1 post. Why is that so hard?

computer problems sry don't understand it

How about starting with something simple, and modifying it as you see fit?

I know it's prolly more fun to do something yourself, but for my non-fabricating ass, it gives me assurance that I'm starting with a good foundation.

Just my .02

Here, read this.

http://fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=51113

loomis, if I understand you correctly, all this bullshit is so you can put a rollcage on your toy? GTFOOH

at least you got some triangulation on those oh shit handles.




I still have to add all the gussets

loomis, if I understand you correctly, all this bullshit is so you can put a rollcage on your toy? GTFOOH


seems he is a pro at all this so I dont see the need for this post

where the hell did this kid come from? send him back, for the love of god, send him back. One noseminer/rug rat is enuf. We cant get rid of chambie, and now we have two?

ah **** NO i ain't no bitch like chambiec, i was just wodering if my ideas / concept would hold up and the do , good god i hate chambiec, i am not like him
chambiec doesn't know shit he is clue less



here is the final design http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/256186/fullsize/124.JPG

Great now go play with your damn toys and we'll all quit wasting our time. Rc cars, you've got to be F*king kidding me.

no full size bronco, i was just thinking of the model but that is bull shit, i just auto caded a fullsize layout of the cage. i need your help i don't have a dad, or anyone that can help me, i am just a kid , sry if i offened anyone i did not mean to , i need all the help i can get, i have a rough idea of what i need to do but NO experience. all this "bullshit" is so i don't **** up my truck I don't want to cut in the wrong place or spend all of my LIMITED bugdet


i was thinking of build a 1/4 scale model to see if everything worked but that is just ocd

i haven't been goofing around i am a master machinist, and caprpenter, my whole life i have helped rebuilt a farmhouse and farm equipment, i do better work than my dad who has been in the buisness for 30 years yea i know the 14 point is way to much i just got carried away

ok asshole.. do you or dont you have a dad?? you need to gtf away and come back ....mmmmmmmmm.... never. holy $%#&. I hae heard and met a lot of know it alls, and can even handle a few of them but this takes the cake

Still waiting for your email. Save yourself the hassle from further public "humiliation". I'm willing to take a few minutes from my 25hr schedule, and give you a few minutes, but if you won't even do that... yer on yer own, kid

...i was just wodering if my ideas / concept would hold up
so far, no

i have a dad bitch but parents just divorced and he is a peice of shit

i have a dad bitch but parents just divorced and he is a peice of shit

you may want to check that attitude Junior, it wont be accepted around here. You wasted a lot of peoples time on a fawking toy. WE DONT CARE, and its in the wrong fawking forum.

Scram

I feel like the most mature young guy on here. Damn:shocked

you are crawler

you are crawler

Wow crawler, you are young, wanna date my little sister?
LOL,



don't you touch her, you animal.

i want to date your sister. PM her number plz

my dad didnt teach me shit about cars, and all my friends are dumbasses. so i was in the same boat you were. but you know what? i wasnt a douchebag, i searched, i did my own research, and i was polite when i asked people questions.

cut the "waaaah waaaaaaaah everyone owes me a life" shit, shut the fck up, go read some books, learn some manners, grab some wrenchs and teach yourself how to be an adult.

This has gone on long enough