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BroncoSka 10-19-2005, 11:25 PM havent heard anybody talking about oxy welding.
i cant do it, but i have used one a little for cutting stuff. i would like to learn more about it.
what the skinny?
newbie welder.
broncoska
Dustin 10-20-2005, 12:59 AM Ive seen it, kinda funky but does work.
my view is just use the welder thats sitting right next to it.....
MikE2 10-20-2005, 02:45 AM It really only works on small thin stuff. Your going to burn tons of gas up trying to weld anything other than a 1" long bead on 24ga steel
Dangling_Dave 10-20-2005, 03:34 AM They work good with a cutting tip. Also a rosebud can be very handy to heat stuff up with. Wire feed and ARC/TIG are the way to go for welding though.
dc
Orange-Bang 10-20-2005, 06:09 AM college courses in community colleges offer classes all the time, one or two times a week
Larston 10-20-2005, 09:57 AM About the only thing I touch my OxyAcetylene set for is removing broken bolts and bending steel. It even sucks big time for cutting now that I have a plasma.
Gas welding is an old school body work technique. There are several books available to help you with it. Some people still swear that gas welding and lead filling is the only way to build a hot rod.
MyFullSize 10-20-2005, 10:43 AM Its just... not practical. Ive done it before, I dont like it too much. Its still done today. I can OxyAct certian things within my limits in the field as I have a portable tank setup. Thats an advantage, but now that I have a nice trailer I just drag the piece home and weld it there regardless of size or weight (withint limits of the trailer of course).
Having been a professional welder for about 8 years, I can see no real lesson from learing how to OxyAct weld that would benefit you in other methods. I would just research it for the educational perks and leave it at that.
HTH,
Andrew
bakednaz 10-20-2005, 11:23 AM college courses in community colleges offer classes all the time, one or two times a week
I agree. I am currently enrolled @ my local community college taking mig theroy and practical. Last semester I took oxy/acy. The college has all the tools you could ever want. Baked:twotu:
Davids78Bronco 10-20-2005, 11:29 PM I love gas welding... first welding was done with gas. Shoot, I still have a homemade vice, that I made in high school. But, as had been mentioned before, it's nowhere near practical. Fun to do, but not money smart, especially if you expect to do anymore than a weekend's worth, at any given time
XLTbeast 10-20-2005, 11:38 PM About the only thing I touch my OxyAcetylene set for is removing broken bolts and bending steel. It even sucks big time for cutting now that I have a plasma.
Gas welding is an old school body work technique. There are several books available to help you with it. Some people still swear that gas welding and lead filling is the only way to build a hot rod.
Thats right. its the only way. i cant say i like to do it much cause its a PITA but when doing body work its the way to go.(atleast i think) It doesnt warp thin metals or displace as much heat over them when done right. in the end everything is usually a little straighter and cleaner. but thats just my .02
BigBroncoXLT 10-20-2005, 11:40 PM Ive seen a guy use a coat hanger to weld together a temporary exhuast..thats about all I know about it.
sammy198 10-24-2005, 01:40 PM Ive seen a guy use a coat hanger to weld together a temporary exhuast..thats about all I know about it.
done that works pretty good too
waltman 10-24-2005, 08:09 PM Thats right. its the only way. i cant say i like to do it much cause its a PITA but when doing body work its the way to go.(atleast i think) It doesnt warp thin metals or displace as much heat over them when done right. in the end everything is usually a little straighter and cleaner. but thats just my .02
You are saying mig is the way to go for bodywork right, because if you are saying gas is better, you clearly have'nt done it before. Even when spotwelding a quarter panel with mig and staggerring your tacks, will result in warpage if you aren't carefull.
chester90210 10-24-2005, 09:01 PM You are saying mig is the way to go for bodywork right, because if you are saying gas is better, you clearly have'nt done it before. Even when spotwelding a quarter panel with mig and staggerring your tacks, will result in warpage if you aren't carefull.
I think what he meant was oxy-acetlyne/gas welding was the only way to go. I'm in a welding class right now, with mig,tig,oxy, arc, as well as an entire fabrication shop with lifts/presses/ and just about every other tool. In my class the people who are usually best at tig welding are those who practiced a lot with oxy before trying to tig. The principles are the same, and mechanically the motions are all the same. The biggest difference being that you can control the heat with the pedal on mig instead of using a flame. Most of the skills/experiences of trying oxy first in a shop at least have made it a lot easier for most of us to. However, I wouldn't buy an oxy setup to learn on before buying a tig machine as I wouldn't have much use for the oxy except as a torch, and it wouldn't be economical buying both machines. Either way, I'll stick with mig for now:duh
85f150 10-24-2005, 10:58 PM oxy is cheaper if it is all you have. I have braized up floors before because i didn't have the cash yet for a mig. Also the braizin is no where near as strong as a Mig or Tig for that matter.
I would rather weld with a mig then brazin body panels....i can do alot better with less warpage. Oh yeah buy some of the aluminum or copper heatsinks when doing body work (like outta Eastwood) and you will have no warpage
Oh yeah, Lead is the ONLY way to fill, now if i could just do it....
broncobum 10-26-2005, 10:10 AM In my class the people who are usually best at tig welding are those who practiced a lot with oxy before trying to tig. The principles are the same, and mechanically the motions are all the same. The biggest difference being that you can control the heat with the pedal on mig instead of using a flame. Most of the skills/experiences of trying oxy first in a shop at least have made it a lot easier for most of us to.
:stupid oxy welding really helped me learn to tig. i have also closed holes in exhaust manifolds with braizing. Silver solder is really useful too. what else can you use to stick stainless to copper, and stuff like that? if you have any skills at all you can make some clean cuts with it too. the torch is for sure the most versatile tool in a welding shop.
that being said i like tig better. especially for aluminum.
bluesdude 10-31-2005, 09:37 PM I still braze my body panels and use lead for filler its old school but the way I learned.
MyFullSize 10-31-2005, 11:24 PM Even when spotwelding a quarter panel with mig and staggerring your tacks, will result in warpage if you aren't carefull.
AKA: If you dont know how to weld.
I still braze my body panels and use lead for filler its old school but the way I learned.
WooT! :chili: Old school is right... but it works the best!
:box0715: Bondo Filler
waltman 11-01-2005, 03:39 PM AKA: If you dont know how to weld.
Is this a jab against me? :twak I know how to weld thank-you
WooT! :chili: Old school is right... but it works the best!
:box0715: Bondo Filler
I started out with brazing patches on quarter panels and I don't know how you can say it's the way to go. I don't care how carefull you are you Will get warpage when brazing, especially with todays pop can vehicles. Leading on the other hand, if you can master this skill, it is defineately the way to go.
Have you ever brazed a quarter panel?
78bronco460 11-01-2005, 04:28 PM I gas welded a very valuable engine block that broke where the main cap cross bolt hole was. It was a much better repair than electric welding I'd seen on others. It got track tested pretty well.
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