View Full Version : "Daawkness" gets a new cage
Gus Hackler 10-21-2005, 06:34 PM My cage is done. I thought I would be a little post whore and show it off. Flame on, thanks.
All the work was done by Ryan at Wicked Fab (www.wickedfabrication.com). He charged me $1500 for the cage w/ sliders and door. Its tied into the frame in four locations on each side. He does great work and he is really nice guy too. i am going to add a second bar on the sliders that comes out a bit and add two more bars that connect the main hoop to the head-ache bar. He is going to finish the last bit after I go to Callico this weekend.
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Oldyeller 10-21-2005, 06:39 PM http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y41/gsbroncos/Dawwkness/DSC06179.jpg
Cage looks great, just one question, are you going to put some ends on this tube to keep mud and water out of there?
Gus Hackler 10-21-2005, 06:44 PM Cage looks great, just one question, are you going to put some ends on this tube to keep mud and water out of there?
that part isn't done yet, he is going to add a second bar that will come up and out to cover the body a bit more. I had him wait for that part b/c I need to get some body work fixed there first, since once that second bar is done, it will be impossible to get to the body there.
Oldyeller 10-21-2005, 06:47 PM that part isn't done yet, he is going to add a second bar that will come up and out to cover the body a bit more. I had him wait for that part b/c I need to get some body work fixed there first, since once that second bar is done, it will be impossible to get to the body there.
Thought that looked like it needed another bar for bracing, cool cage:twotu:
Gus Hackler 10-21-2005, 06:55 PM Thought that looked like it needed another bar for bracing, cool cage
thanks, Ryan is the man.:rockon
I am taking my '88 Bronco down there next week and is going to do a full exo cage on that one.
jrdbronco 10-21-2005, 07:01 PM idea is good, but the part of the cage that comes out and forms a "door" and sliders looks like ass, IMO. if it were my rig, i could have kept the sliders tucked up real tight, so as not to loose any clearance. and i would have tied the cage to the sliders through the floorboards, not out through the door opening. but its your rig, your money, and the cage INSIDE the truck looks good
Gus Hackler 10-21-2005, 07:33 PM but the part of the cage that comes out and forms a "door" and sliders looks like ass, IMO
kiss my ass IMO:goodfinge :goodfinge . You better have the sickest cage on this site, to be saying sh!t like that. You should read the rest of the thread where it says the sliders aren't even finished. When the rest of the fab work is done, I guarantee it will clown.
I got to go back outside and finish my truck so I can leave for Callico. I dont want douche bags like yourself to piss me off this weekend.
Ragged_ol_86 10-21-2005, 08:32 PM Eaaasssy, now Its an opinion. It looks real good anyhow and the coolest part is the "wicked" plate in the door cage
Josh
jrdbronco 10-21-2005, 08:46 PM kiss my ass IMO:goodfinge :goodfinge . You better have the sickest cage on this site, to be saying sh!t like that. You should read the rest of the thread where it says the sliders aren't even finished. When the rest of the fab work is done, I guarantee it will clown.
I got to go back outside and finish my truck so I can leave for Callico. I dont want douche bags like yourself to piss me off this weekend.
WTF dude? You win the award for having the absolute thinnest skin on the whole damn internet. I guess you chose to look past the IMO part, which in case you didnt know, means IN MY OPINION. its just that, an opinion. I'm sure thats how you wanted it, and thats why you had no problem paying 1500 bucks for it. I'm not saying shit at all. besides, i'm pretty sure you said "Flame on" thus inviting critiscism. I'm partial to more traditional, internal cages, whereas it appears you like endo/exo cages. thats fine with me. but OBVIOUSLY you dont take critiscism very well at all. I hope you dont scrape yourself at Callico, you'll bleed to death
Dustin 10-21-2005, 09:47 PM looks good, I like it cause its a differnt design then everyone else out there. dont think I would choose that design if it where mine but each there own. Looks like some good fab work and at a decent price too :thumbup
plug ugly 10-21-2005, 09:47 PM WTF dude? You win the award for having the absolute thinnest skin on the whole damn internet. you said "Flame on" thus inviting critiscism.
and then lay a smack down on some guy who doesnt like it. Relax guy
derrick36 10-21-2005, 10:37 PM WTF dude? You win the award for having the absolute thinnest skin on the whole damn internet.
+1
Same Gus, different day.
Gus Hackler 10-21-2005, 11:16 PM WTF dude? You win the award for having the absolute thinnest skin on the whole damn internet. I guess you chose to look past the IMO part, which in case you didnt know, means IN MY OPINION. its just that, an opinion. I'm sure thats how you wanted it, and thats why you had no problem paying 1500 bucks for it. I'm not saying shit at all. besides, i'm pretty sure you said "Flame on" thus inviting critiscism. I'm partial to more traditional, internal cages, whereas it appears you like endo/exo cages. thats fine with me. but OBVIOUSLY you dont take critiscism very well at all. I hope you dont scrape yourself at Callico, you'll bleed to death
I dont mind some flaming where someone gives some decent critism that can help in the design, but the things you said make no sense and you arent really in a place to talk when you have nothing better than my set-up. If you were someone that had a great cage with some killer fab work, then you can critize. I am just think if you are going to come down on me, then you better have something a lot better on your own truck.
First, your point about going through the floorboards to connect the sliders to the cage doesnt make sense b/c then I would need a second "kick-out" bar for the doorsand sliders and would need to drill an unneeded hole in the floor. Second your point about the slider not being close enough is equally foolish b/c it needed to be that way in order to connect the halo bar to the sliders. If it was hugging the body like you suggest then there wouldnt be enough room to get the other tube welded on and if I did it your way then I would need second hole through my body right there. Also there is going to be a second slider bar that will go up and over the body near the front of the rear quarter (similar to EB Bronco style sliders). Your comments may be true on other desins, but my set-up is a little different then most. If you look at the pictures and see how it was designed then you will see why your comments dont make sense. I dont want one person's foolish comments make Ryan's work or shop look bad or incompitant.
I need to get back to packing my truck for Callico I am over it........
Davids78Bronco 10-21-2005, 11:16 PM What about pictures of the back half of it, and better pictures of the cab area? That cross bar, at the B-pillar, were you concerned about passengers getting in and out, and possibly hitting their knees on it? How do you get it in, w/o looking like you're climbing a jungle gym?
A cookie to the guy for coming up with a unique design, but I'll take that cookie back, for it not being very practical. Yes, it's my opinion, and as long as you're happy with it, that's all that really matters
Gus Hackler 10-21-2005, 11:28 PM What about pictures of the back half of it, and better pictures of the cab area? That cross bar, at the B-pillar, were you concerned about passengers getting in and out, and possibly hitting their knees on it? How do you get it in, w/o looking like you're climbing a jungle gym?
A cookie to the guy for coming up with a unique design, but I'll take that cookie back, for it not being very practical. Yes, it's my opinion, and as long as you're happy with it, that's all that really matters
Its actually VERY practical b/c he put in a spot where you can connect the halo on both sides and still fold the back seat up. Other cages I have scene on this site have too low and you cant fold your rear seat down. It is about six inches up and out from any ones knees and it works as an "Oh Sh!t bar" for the people in the rear. I dont give a fawk about people looking stupid climbing over the bar. I would rather have it be safe and if they dont like it then they can ride with someone else.
ScottMoore 10-21-2005, 11:44 PM man sometimes i feel like i am in a room with a bunch of women. catfights everywhere:cry :cry :cry :cry :wtf
81Bronk36 10-21-2005, 11:49 PM Dude, it definatly looks badazz. Does the door part open??? what about some kinda steps on the lowerbar???
Did he water cut that plate??? I looks sweet.
jackhart 10-21-2005, 11:50 PM You better have the sickest cage on this site, to be saying sh!t like that
so what you're saying is, the only people who can legitimately critique your cage, which i note you yourself did not build, are those who not only have their own cages, but have ones that are "sicker" than yours? um, no.:twak
i understand you put alot of effort and money into this, and were probably looking forward to compliments on your cage, but you invited the comments - good or bad - by posting on here. calling someone a "douche bag" for posting their honest opinion is not something the administration thinks is appropriate at fsb. adjust your attitude accordingly.
ScottMoore 10-21-2005, 11:53 PM :stupid
Gus Hackler 10-22-2005, 12:02 AM Dude, it definatly looks badazz. Does the door part open??? what about some kinda steps on the lowerbar???
Did he water cut that plate??? I looks sweet.
The doors dont open, it is one piece connecting to the cage. There will be a better places to step to get in once the second bar for the slider is welded on.
so what you're saying is, the only people who can legitimately critique your cage, which i note you yourself did not build, are those who not only have their own cages, but have ones that are "sicker" than yours? um, no.
I am just saying that if you are going to come down on someone, then have a leg to stand on, thats all. Would you listen to me if I told you how to install your lift on your Bronco if I had a stock Bronco II......um, no.
Davids78Bronco 10-22-2005, 12:04 AM Its actually VERY practical b/c ...
Well, that answered one of my questions...
bigbroncojeff 10-22-2005, 12:13 AM I am just saying that if you are going to come down on someone, then have a leg to stand on, thats all. Would you listen to me if I told you how to install your lift on your Bronco if I had a stock Bronco II......um, no.
if your info was legit/correct then of course i'd listen..... the info is what's important not the messanger.... outside of that some of the statements were opinions.... you post up on the net expect the critiques to be a little/lot more harsh then from someone standing next to you.... but i thought you'd learned your lesson about this before.... old habits die hard huh
that being said i think the cage looks cool and functional .... for you... :thumbup .... where i wheel it sucks not having doors.... we spray so much mud i even have to roll up the window:toothless price seems fair enough too
plug ugly 10-22-2005, 12:14 AM lets disect what you have said here mister.
I dont mind some flaming where someone gives some decent critism that can help in the design, but the things you said make no sense and you arent really in a place to talk when you have nothing better than my set-up. If you were someone that had a great cage with some killer fab work, then you can critize. I am just think if you are going to come down on me, then you better have something a lot better on your own truck.
not a good start. IF you had something to do with the planning/designing of this cage and didnt just pay ryan to do it, then you have some room to talk here, but Im guessing you didnt, so you sound a little foolish suggesting that you have the baddest cage here or that this person or that cant commetn or give opinion because they do or dont have a cage.
Flaming doesnt always consist of cunstructive criticism. If you want that, you need to find a website and/or sport that blindly supports people and tells them they are great no matter what they do/think/feel. Im not sure, but I think they are called hippies.
First, your point about going through the floorboards to connect the sliders to the cage doesnt make sense b/c then I would need a second "kick-out" bar for the doorsand sliders and would need to drill an unneeded hole in the floor. Second your point about the slider not being close enough is equally foolish b/c it needed to be that way in order to connect the halo bar to the sliders. If it was hugging the body like you suggest then there wouldnt be enough room to get the other tube welded on and if I did it your way then I would need second hole through my body right there. Also there is going to be a second slider bar that will go up and over the body near the front of the rear quarter (similar to EB Bronco style sliders). Your comments may be true on other desins, but my set-up is a little different then most. If you look at the pictures and see how it was designed then you will see why your comments dont make sense. I dont want one person's foolish comments make Ryan's work or shop look bad or incompitant.
hmm, good turn around. This is a good section of valid points. Well done
I need to get back to packing my truck for Callico I am over it........
you sound like my ex girlfriend, who gave ultimatums, stomped her feet, and complained about shit all the time. Grow up
jackhart 10-22-2005, 12:17 AM imo, jrd has at least one, if not more legs to stand on and has enough experience to comment on your rig/cage. regardless of whether you agree or not, the correct approach is not to start a pissing match by letting it get personal with name calling. you got it right later on when you addressed each of his points in a logical sequence and explained why you did what you did. see the difference?
Gus Hackler 10-22-2005, 12:29 AM not a good start. IF you had something to do with the planning/designing of this cage and didnt just pay ryan to do it, then you have some room to talk here, but Im guessing you didnt, so you sound a little foolish suggesting that you have the baddest cage here or that this person or that cant commetn or give opinion because they do or dont have a cage.
I am not saying I have the best cage at all. There is not such thing as a 'best cage" b/c everyone has different needs. I did have a hand in how I wanted it to work, but I gave him some creative freedom for the final look. You guys should know that the ultimate insult to somone in the creative trades is to tell them how to due their craft. I think that is pretty fawking lame to stand over the guys shoulder and tell him how to do it.
i dont get it, someone flamed me.... I gave him a little back (my original response wasn't even that bad) , then it was you guys that went off on me. Why is it only a one way street. Just cause you guys know I have a short fuse (lol), you guys think I am going crazy. I just say what I feel, I dont put up any fronts. just like you said Plug, people dont hold back when they post.
jackhart 10-22-2005, 12:38 AM i dont get it, someone flamed me.... I gave him a little back (my original response wasn't even that bad) , then it was you guys that went off on me. Why is it only a one way street
it ain't a one way street, reread jrd's post. he said one part of your cage, in his opinion, looked like ass (ok, a little harsh, but not that bad), offered how he would have done it were it his, and was damn polite about the rest of your cage. you then proceeded to call him a "douche bag," a personal attack. it ain't that complicated, son, really it ain't.
Gus Hackler 10-22-2005, 12:47 AM it ain't that complicated, son, really it ain't.
your right its not that hard, he started his response with a jab, I gave little jab back, what so hard to understand about that old man.
jackhart 10-22-2005, 12:53 AM you made it personal, he didn't. shall i write it in crayon so even you will understand it now?
Gus Hackler 10-22-2005, 12:58 AM you made it personal, he didn't. shall i write it in crayon so even you will understand it now?
I didn't make any more personal then what I was responding to. You guys are making it sound like I took shots at his family....Holy sh!t...He said the cage looks like sh!t, I said kiss my ass... end of story... get the fawk over it already.
Shadofax 10-22-2005, 01:42 AM kiss my ass IMO:goodfinge :goodfinge . You better have the sickest cage on this site, to be saying sh!t like that. You should read the rest of the thread where it says the sliders aren't even finished. When the rest of the fab work is done, I guarantee it will clown.
I got to go back outside and finish my truck so I can leave for Callico. I dont want douche bags like yourself to piss me off this weekend.
Damn.... you say....."flame on...." in your thread start, so someone gives feedback you don't like and you come back with this? Touchy little baby
btw....what does "I guarantee it will be clown" mean.?..does that mean it will look like a clown did it?
plug ugly 10-22-2005, 01:49 AM well, Gus, it sounds like there is a general consesus (sp?) here. Take it for what its worth.
BTW, I thought you were "over" this thread?
ToddACimer 10-22-2005, 01:58 AM So there's no doors and no steps to get in??? Where do you wheel that you haven't damaged the stock t-case skid plate?
Gus Hackler 10-22-2005, 02:08 AM So there's no doors and no steps to get in??? Where do you wheel that you haven't damaged the stock t-case skid plate?
I’m not sure what you are saying, how does not having doors or a step to get in make the t-case skid plate anymore susceptible?
well, Gus, it sounds like there is a general consesus (sp?) here. Take it for what its worth.
thanks for all the great replies everyone, I love you guys too.
Torvald 10-29-2005, 01:19 PM Game over, thread lost it's point. reset and new match in 5
Blown 11-04-2005, 02:08 PM d
FoolSize 11-04-2005, 11:59 PM man i thought we left the wife in front of the tv?
yogib 11-25-2005, 10:10 PM Nice cage but I see some things that I wouldnt want. Why run it outside the doors instead of inside? You cant use doors at all.Rules out locking rig up and having a nice stero.The strength is questionable as well having those long vertical tubes run out from frame,they could bend easy in a serious roll over. Lets face it,the whole reason for a cage is for safety.Not just looks. My cage goes down and mounts to floor plates inside the door.and then theres a short 90 bent tube underneath that ties to frame.Also I would have added a tube in the center up by the roof for more front to back support.The tube behind the seat makes getting into the rear seat difficult.I have two tubes that turn down behind seat so theres just enough room to crawl through.Your cab needs to be tied to the cage so that it will survive and not rip itself apart.The tube by the rear of the door in a rollover could just rip the heck out of your cab.I think your Fab guy should have thought things through a little more.I wish I could show you my cage for reference but dont have pics quite yet.I will try to get some up soon so you can see what I mean.By the way my cage design in another Bronco has already been crash tested at about 50 miles an hour rollover in the sand and didnt even budge.They just had to cut roof off and put new one on.Not trying to be Cocky just constructive critisism.
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