Heres what I would like to do, I want to keep my truck as a DD, but get rid of that POS TTB. Have a D44 solid front SAS.
I live up north where ice is involved. Those of you that have done it and live in Canada and the northern regions of the US, how does it handle on the ice without ABS?
I think ABS is a tradeoff.

I would actually rather buy a 92 or so to use as a hard core trail rig that can take body damage, and put 60/10.25 in there.

Are you sure you have 4 wheel ABS or just rear ABS? I didn't think 92 had 4WABS

Keeping Front ABS in a SAS is almost impossible unless you have lots of cash to toss around.

You can get a 10.25 with ABS and be fine.

fireguy, the meds are acting up, he says he wants to buy a 92 over what he has now....
learn to drive and i wouldnt worry about it. do you think all the older pickups by you have 4 whee ABS? hell, most probably dont even have rear ABS.

thanks :slap

I will clarify: I meant I would like to put a 79-78 HD 44 in the front in my 96, that way it would be still a DD.
But I would probably have front ABS if I got a D60 for the 92 when I get it, because it will be from a 94-96 F-350.

hope, the F-350 didn't have front ABS

I'm telling ya, It takes tons of cash to get front ABS in a SAS

I don't have ABS live in Michigan, and drive just fine

OT

If you replaced the 78 knuckles out with ones that have abs(like the ones on your ttb), would'nt that allow you to use abs?:shrug

If you replaced the 78 knuckles out with ones that have abs(like the ones on your ttb), would'nt that allow you to use abs?
kinda hard to mate the balljints to kinpins....

I thought you could get a new enough d60 with abs?

Dana 44HD have leafs not coils correct? just curious.

Only way I've seen getting front ABS is to get donor axles out of a brand new F-350 with the metric bolt pattern. Good luck gettting axles from a 98 newer 350 and better luck afording it.

Sorry if I have confused you, Fireguy, you have anwsered part of my question what I was looking for. But I am really looking for a Bronco owner whom had ABS in the front on the 90s Broncos,and went to a D44 SAS, but I would like to know if there were any times that he wished he had ABS up front. If he said "never" I wouldn't even worry about not having ABS. But there have been times that the ABS almost got me into trouble....three times.

I believe the 96 and 97 F-350s did have ABS, but it doesn't matter if I have it on a offroad rig, why do I need ABS when you are just going to tow it to your wheeling spot?

I think the only way to get ABS on a 78-79 D44 when you have a 96 Bronco would be to have the knuckle drilled for two holes (for the ABS sensor) and if you can really put rotors from a 96 with a tone ring sensor in it.
The tone ring sensor is on the backside of the rotor.
On a front knuckle with ABS on a truck like mine there are two holes in the knuckle, one large hole, maybe 1/2", and the other maybe about 1/4". An ABS sensor on the backside of the knuckle has a shank or whatever you call it that goes into the hole and it is held on by two srews.

Anyway how many of you feel like ABS is a "sugar pill", or other words a safety gimmick.

well i dont have abs since the sas and I havent had any problems without it, granted I dont drive in the snow but I dont think that the abs helps that much with the bigger tires anyway. I used to have it activate on me while just slowing down and making a turn. I wont even go into how much abs sucks offroad

Originally posted by BadassBronco
kinda hard to mate the balljints to kinpins....

Hes using a D44

If the axle your going with for the SAS has ball joints(if its a Dana 44 then YES) then you can just use the knuckles from your ttb.

That way you keep ABS.:rockon

Originally posted by BrianH
If the axle your going with for the SAS has ball joints(if its a Dana 44 then YES) then you can just use the knuckles from your ttb.

That way you keep ABS.:rockon
NOPE! wont bolt on, diferent height....

edit, if you want proof ill try to a picture of it not acually being able to do it this weekend....

Originally posted by Dustin
well i dont have abs since the sas and I havent had any problems without it, granted I dont drive in the snow but I dont think that the abs helps that much with the bigger tires anyway. I used to have it activate on me while just slowing down and making a turn. I wont even go into how much abs sucks offroad :thumbup :beer

Thanks Dustin, thats exactly what I am looking for!

Originally posted by BadassBronco
NOPE! wont bolt on, diferent height....

edit, if you want proof ill try to a picture of it not acually being able to do it this weekend....

YAH, this has been debated and tried before. The ONLY way to get front ABS is to own a machine shop and make for own knuckles and brake rotors OR
Buy a brand new F-350 and swap in the axles. Need both for the metric bolt patern. The Excersion has a Dana 50 so it's not worth the money

You could do it yourself if you put a little time into it. Use the hub/rotor/ring off your current axle on the 79 axle, then use the 96 knuckle as a template to notch the 79 spindle and cut holes in the knuckle for the ABS sensor to mount through. The main issue is the gap between the ring and the sensor, but as long as that is good and it's reading the teeth on the ring, you should be good to go :thumbup

It's worth a try just to say you were the first to do it and show off your badass write-up on the internet :goodfinge

Originally posted by muddybronco
You could do it yourself if you put a little time into it. Use the hub/rotor/ring off your current axle on the 79 axle, then use the 96 knuckle as a template to notch the 79 spindle and cut holes in the knuckle for the ABS sensor to mount through. The main issue is the gap between the ring and the sensor, but as long as that is good and it's reading the teeth on the ring, you should be good to go :thumbup

It's worth a try just to say you were the first to do it and show off your badass write-up on the internet :goodfinge

:thumbup

ABS SUCKS ASS Plain and Simple

Originally posted by BrianH
If the axle your going with for the SAS has ball joints(if its a Dana 44 then YES) then you can just use the knuckles from your ttb.

That way you keep ABS.:rockon

Hate to be dick, but shut up. It really pisses me off when people tell you how to do something and they have no idea wtf they are talking about. Have you done an sas? if not, then you dont know.



as far as the 4WABS, I had it. Pulled the module completely out and bent all new lines. I have not had any probs with it, but like dustin said, I have no snow. Jojo on this list bought a dynarape 60 (AFAIK) and still runs his 4wabs. If the cash is there, that is a viable option. Another option would be to pull the abs module off a 92 and use it with a sterling (since you need one anyways with the rear tone ring) and run just rear abs.
Cant comment on redrilling the front. Would be real interested if you could make that work. of course, I am personally happy without 4wabs, but I live in California.

I have a dynatrac 60, or as Damon so eloquently puts it, the dynarape. I originally had an '87 D60 that I was going to use.

I sold my '87 D60 for twice what I payed for it and got the dynatrac 60 with the ABS retro fit.

I usually just pull the the big 30a fuse when I go wheeling.

Originally posted by Fireguy50
The Excersion has a Dana 50 so it's not worth the money
i think that excursions come with a 60 if they're diesel; but it's still the metric bolt pattern.