Well we are going to find out. I'm going to do a test on it myself to see if it really increases the gas milage and power as it claims it will. So starting today, my 94 F150 with a 302 and a 5 speed is going to be a test mule for the next month or so.
I'm first going to get some very accurate gas milage figures. I will do this by filling the tank up to the exact same point every time I get gas, and then divide the miles travled (according to the odometer) by the gallons of fuel used (according the the readout on the gas pump). Now since filling the gas tank up to the exact same point every time is nearly impossible, I have modified the filler neck so I can get the tank filled right up to the brim on the second click of the gas pump.

Kind of hard to see in the picture, but thats Chevron Supreme 91 octane filled right to the brim
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/303808/fullsize/100_0884.JPG


And since gas is measured by volume, and the volume changes with temperature, I will get gas at the same time each day, roughly 4:00pm.

To keep the gas milage figures and this test accurate, the truck will now ONLY be used to drive myself to and from work. If I have another errand to run or something like that I will not drive this truck. Its going from my house in the morning, to work. Then leaving work in the evening and driving right by the gas station (stopping if fuel is needed) and comming straight home. Same roads every time, same driving style every time, no changes. For accuracy, I will do the speed limit on every road, and use the cruise control on 80% of the trip. Also for accuracy the headlights will be on every trip (It was raining today so I had them on, dont want anything to effect the results). Also for consistancy, The truck will have exactally 5 minutes of idle time in the morning at my house to thaw the windshield, then the defrost will be on high untill I drive by this one road on the way to work, 17 miles away. I will do this even if its not needed for accuracy.

Gas will be bought at the same gas station every time, and even at the same pump. It will always be Chevron 91 octane. I'm even going to take a picture of the odometer with the gas reciet to help keep the accuracy.
On todays stop at the gas station I topped off the tank for the test.
Odometer reads 156,736.6 miles
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/303809/fullsize/100_0886.JPG

I will not be using the trip odometer since people will accuse me of fudging the results. This way the miles will always be a running total.



So that should get me some very accurate "before" gas milage figures.







Now for the claim of increased power, I also have a test for that. Every day I go up a 2 mile long 7% hill on my way home from work. At the bottom of the hill there is a "END 35 SPEED LIMIT" sign, I will drive by that sign starting up the hill at exactally 35 MPH in 4th gear. As soon as I cross the sign, the pedel goes to the floor to see how much speed I can pick up going up the hill (in 4th gear the whole way). Near the top of the hill there is a "45 ZONE AHEAD" sign. as soon as I cross that sign I will record the speed. I will do this test the same way every time I drive up the hill to keep the gas milage figures accurate.

Sorry, these pictures didn't turn out well, and I wasn't turning around to re-do them. Next time I will keep the flash off.
Bottom of the hill, doing exactally 35 MPH in 4th gear up to the 35 sign
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/303810/fullsize/100_0890.JPG

Top of the hill, I hit exactally 62 MPH when crossing the 45 sign
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/303811/fullsize/100_0891.JPG

However to be honest I'm not as concerned with the power increase as I am with the milage increase. I just thought while I'm doing the milage a little power test won't hurt anything.


I will add to this post every time I fill up the tank. Then after I have a good baseline, I'm going to install the Tornado.


TUESDAY, 3-21-06
62.5 MPH up the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/304246/thumbnail/100_0892.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=304246)

WEDNESDAY, 3-22-06
66 MPH up the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/304584/thumbnail/100_0893.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=304584)

THURSDAY, 3-23-06
stopped for gas at the Chevron today. 91 octane from the same pump, #4, topped off.
20.388 gallons of gas for 239.7 miles = 11.7569 MPG
(156,976.3 - 156,736.6 = 239.7)
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/304968/thumbnail/100_0894.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=304968)

then I hit 64.5 MPH up the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/304969/thumbnail/100_0897.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=304969)

MONDAY, 3-27-06
64.5 MPH up the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/306227/thumbnail/100_0906.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=306227)

TUESDAY, 3-28-06
64.5 MPH up the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/306559/thumbnail/100_0907.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=306559)

MONDAY, 4-3-06
Stopped for gas today at the Chevron, 91 octane from pump #4, topped off
20.501 gallons of gas for 239.8 miles = 11.69699 MPG
(157,216.1 - 156,976.3 = 239.8)
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/309055/thumbnail/100_0913.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=309055)

Then I hit 63 MPH up the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/309056/thumbnail/100_0916.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=309056)

WEDNESDAY, 4-5-06
62.5 MPH up the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/309751/thumbnail/100_0932.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=309751)

THURSDAY, 4-6-06
65 MPH up the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/310093/thumbnail/100_0933.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=310093)

MONDAY, 4-10-06
Got gas today, same station, same pump, topped off,
20.459 gallons for 239.9 miles = 11.7258 MPG
(157,456.0 - 157,216.1 = 239.9 miles driven)
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/311788/thumbnail/100_0939.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=311788)

Then I hit 63 MPH up the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/311789/thumbnail/100_0942.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=311789)

TUESDAY, 4-11-06
60.5 MPH up the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/312360/thumbnail/100_0943.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=312360)

THURSDAY, 4-13-06
A fast 67 MPH up the hill. I don't know why tuesday was the slowest and today was the fastest
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/313220/thumbnail/100_0944.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=313220)

MONDAY, 4-17-06
Topped off the tank again today
20.491 gallons of gas for 239.8 miles driven = 11.7026 MPG
(157,695.8 - 157,456.0 = 239.8)
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/314854/thumbnail/100_0976.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=314854)

Then I hit 65.5 MPH up the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/314855/thumbnail/100_0978.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=314855)

WEDNESDAY, 4-19-06
65 MPH even
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/315301/thumbnail/100_0979.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=315301)

TUESDAY, 4-25-06
64 MPH
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/317180/thumbnail/100_1063.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=317180)

FRIDAY, 4-28-06
Stopped for gas today
20.192 gallons of gas for 240.0 miles driven = 11.8858 MPG
(157,935.8 - 157,695.8 = 240.0)
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/318435/thumbnail/100_1069.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=318435)

Then while the truck was filling up, I installed the 2 tornados at the gas station.
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/318434/thumbnail/100_1068.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=318434)

Then I hit 62.5 MPH up the hill.
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/318436/thumbnail/100_1072.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=318436)

So just to recap, the average gas milage without the tornado is 11.7536 MPG
I'm happy so far with how consistant everything is. The best and worst milage figures are only a difference of 0.1889 MPG. I don't know why the miles driven ranges from 239.7 to 240.0, but I'm assuming it has something to do with different air temperatures raising or lowering the tire pressure and making the rolling diamater of the tire different. Some days it rained to, so that could have also made a difference. When I started doing this test it was averaging 35 to 40 degreese in the morning, now its always in the 80's.
Even with the heat, I'm still driving everywhere with the windows closed. And I'm even running the defroster on high and the hottest setting for the first 17 miles on the way to work. Sweatin like a whore, but I'll just deal with it.


MONDAY, 5-1-06
64 MPH
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/319837/thumbnail/100_1085.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=319837)

TUESDAY, 5-2-06
64 MPH
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/319838/thumbnail/100_1086.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=319838)

WEDNESDAY, 5-3-06
First tank of gas with the Tornados installed,
19.701 gallons of gas for 239.5 miles driven = 12.1567 MPG
(158,175.3 - 157,935.8 = 239.5)
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/320014/thumbnail/100_1090.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=320014)

And then I hit 65.5 MPH hp the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/320015/thumbnail/100_1091.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=320015)

THURSDAY, 5-4-06
63.5 MPH
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/320183/thumbnail/100_1095.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=320183)

FRIDAY, 5-5-06
63 MPH
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/320478/thumbnail/100_1098.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=320478)


SATURDAY, 5-6-06
Second tank with the Tornados installed
19.538 gallons of gas for 239.5 miles driven = 12.2581 MPG
(158,414.8 - 158,175.3 = 239.5)
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/320735/thumbnail/100_1101.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=320735)

Even better milage the second tank.

I'm going to have to use this truck this week, so I'm going to take it out of the test now with 158,414.8 miles on it. When I'm done using it, I will top off the tank again and get the millage so I can run a few more tanks through it to make sure the Tornado really does work.


THURSDAY, 5-11-06
OK I'm putting the truck back in the test now. Nothing has changed about it, and the Tornados are still installed.
Just topped off the tank today with 158,724.4 miles on the odometer.
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/322801/thumbnail/100_1181.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=322801)

62 MPH up the hill
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/322802/thumbnail/100_1182.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=322802)

FRIDAY, 5-12-06
62.5 MPH
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/323197/thumbnail/100_1184.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=323197)

SATURDAY, 5-13-06
63 MPH
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/323644/thumbnail/100_1200.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=323644)

MONDAY, 5-15-06
Topped off the tank again today, but this time I REMOVED THE TORNADOS
This way we will see if the milage increase was really from the Tornados or the warmer weather, because it both happened at the same time
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/324303/thumbnail/100_1208.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=324303)

19.194 gallons of gas for 239.6 miles driven = 12.4830 MPG with Tornados installed
(158,964.0 - 158,724.4 = 239.6)
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/324304/thumbnail/100_1210.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=324304)

Then I hit 62.5 MPH up the hill without Tornaods
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/324305/thumbnail/100_1212.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=324305)

WEDNESDAY, 5-17-06
63 MPH
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/324981/thumbnail/100_1215.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=324981)

THURSDAY, 5-18-06
64 MPH
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/325201/thumbnail/100_1217.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=325201)

FRIDAY, 5-19-06
Topped off the tank for the last time,
20.326 Gallons of gas for 239.5 miles driven = 11.7829 MPG
(159,203.5 - 158,964.0 = 239.5)
http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/325354/thumbnail/100_1221.JPG (http://www.supermotors.org/vehicles/registry/showmedia.php?id=325354)

Well there you have it. As soon as I took the Tornados out the gas milage goes right back down to that 11.7 average I had without the Tornados. I'm convinced and suprised that they actually do work.

Sweet idea Mike. Keep us posted

I kinda hope it works. Just cuz so many people talk shit about it.

I probably still wont buy it tho.:toothless

Good Mike, verry good.

Dont let the But-O-Meter get in the way.

you really need to clean your truck. :goodfinge

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/303809/fullsize/100_0886.JPG


good idea mike, i'm wondering how the results will turn out.

I cleaned it last year

it needs to be cleaned again.

you really need to clean your truck. :goodfinge
.

I wipe mine off after i drive all the time, i smoke, and there is usually ashes all over it.

I cleaned it 11 months ago
http://fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39381

clean it now, armorall it, etc. and take 10 minutes once a week to wipe down the interior with a damp cloth, not that hard.

Mine gets washed when it rains.

clean it now, armorall it, etc. and take 10 minutes once a week to wipe down the interior with a damp cloth, not that hard.
I'll clean it next year. I'm not anal about keeping shit clean. You can enjoy something more when you don't worry about it so much.

Mine gets washed when it rains.
My paints only shiny when it rains. And funny story about that. The other day I had to go by my insurance office because they needed to take pictures of the truck, well it was raining at the time and they said to come back when its not raining because the black looked real shiny and in great shape with it being wet. All the manzanita pinstriping you couldn't even see

11.7 MPG, thats the best this truck has ever done on this road. Maybe the secret to better gas milage is just doing the sped limit everywhere :shrug



And I'm not going to drive this tomarrow because I'll have to run by the bank on my way home to deposit my check and I don't want to change anything in how its driven

Sweet. I've always been curious. I know a couple people who use them and swear by them. I'll give it a shot if you prove it works :thumbup

clean it now, armorall it, etc. and take 10 minutes once a week to wipe down the interior with a damp cloth, not that hard.


well to mike 11 months ago is just cleaning it. leave him alone he has better things to do than take 5 seconds out of his day to dust shit. beside thats a womans job

beside thats a womans job
HaHA!:rofl:



Gotta give them bitches something to do

Sweatin my ass of this morning driving to work. It was already warm outside, but I had to drive with the defroster on HI and HOT for the first 17 miles to keep everything consistant. I didn't want to put the window down either since that might have a small effect on the wind restance

i understand what you're trying to do, but, if you open your drivers side window, and then open the sliding rear window all the way, it has no wind resistance. plus, it's not like your truck is very aerodynamic to begin with.

I just had this image of mike trapped in the front seat of his truck like a puppy that his owner left in the car at the mall on a 90° day.

:lolup mumblin under his breath, about some god damn test he is trying to do accurately to prove the world wrong

i understand what you're trying to do, but, if you open your drivers side window, and then open the sliding rear window all the way, it has no wind resistance. plus, it's not like your truck is very aerodynamic to begin with.

Um....no.










:goodfinge

i understand what you're trying to do, but, if you open your drivers side window, and then open the sliding rear window all the way, it has no wind resistance. plus, it's not like your truck is very aerodynamic to begin with.

There is a huge difference and since the air would be flowing through the truck with the rear window open I'd guess you would have more air resistance than just a side window.

You're right Mike about driving the speed limit being good for gas mileage. In my BMW, if I can keep it under 3000 RPM cruising speed (about 65 MPH in 5th), I get 29 MPG. Bump that up just 500 rpm (about 75 in 5th), and it goes down to 23. I can demonstrate this consistently.

But....it's a beemer with a 5-speed. I can live with 23.

This works in every car I own, and I even got 13.5 ot of the Bronco once when I was really trying to see if I could save some money. It was too hard, though. The Flowmaster was my downfall. It just doesn't sound the same when you're not in it....And I love that sound....

i understand what you're trying to do, but, if you open your drivers side window, and then open the sliding rear window all the way, it has no wind resistance. plus, it's not like your truck is very aerodynamic to begin with.
Probably, but I still don't want any changes.
I'll just cook myself on the warm days.

I hear that by opening your front and rear windows in a CAR will gain you 1 MPG. I have no idea if thats true, infact pure logic tells me no since your changing the aerodynamics of the car and now you have a big buildup of wind resistance in the back window area of a car. If you put down the rear window in a bronco, its probably better but probably still not better than leaving them shut. But if you leave them shut then you will run the AC which in turn uses up more MPG I believe.

using the ac on the expressway improves fuel mileage, as opposed to having the windows open.

This was done on Mythbusters. They found that, under 45 mph, you got better mileage with the windows down and the AC off. Above 45, wind resistance got to be too much, and you got better mileage with the windows up and the AC on.

I don't really care either way. My 'burb has the computer climate control, and I put it on "74" and forget about it.

I always run the AC with the windows down anyways if its really hot. In my SD I like to open all 4 windows all the way and slide the rear slider open when driving.

milage took a slight drop today, went from 11.756 on the last tank to 11.696 on this tank.

milage took a slight drop today, went from 11.756 on the last tank to 11.696 on this tank.

That's plausible. Driving conditions can't be the same every day. I'm thinking .1mpg won't mess your numbers up too much :thumbup

update i need info. im doing a study of your study lol

I have been updating the first post every time I drive it. If I drive the truck today (I think I am) and friday I will need gas on Friday and I will install the tornados then if they are here by then. If not I'll put one more tank through it

you ever get the doggy diarhea cleaned up out of the new truck?

too many sig figs, but keep us posted

you ever get the doggy diarhea cleaned up out of the new truck?
Yeah I had a mobil detailer come out and give it the full job. I mainly wanted the interior cleaned up, but for $100 more a wash and wax job was worth it. If theres one thing that I hate doing its waxing a car. Or even worse yet, that truck with all the textured plastic on it. Carpet and seats got a shampoo and after it all dried it smeeled like it did the day I bought it.

I'd be afraid to wax my bronco, more of the body might fall off.

hurry up damnit.. the suspense is killing me..

I got them on order right now. As soon as I get them there going in.

milage took a slight drop today, went from 11.756 on the last tank to 11.696 on this tank.

Tempreture differetial. ( and no it's probably not spelled right)

Got the Tornados in the mail today. I'm going to take the truck to work tomorrow and then install them in the afternoon while the trucks filling up at the gas station

Must have been 120* in that truck today

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/319839/fullsize/100_1087.JPG


Now I wish I would have thought ahead and started doing the test with the windows down. At least then I could have put a jacket on on the cold days

:lolup sorry that pic got me laughing....:histerica

Yeah you do look funny

Grow the goat back man, you look like a pissed off grade schooler

Grow the goat back man, you look like a pissed off grade schooler
I can't. I'm still not old enoufgh to shave yet

Sorry, i just had to :rofl:

Sorry, i just had to :rofl:
:histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica

:lolup

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/319839/fullsize/100_1087.JPG

CNN? Oh yes it's me. I was replying to your survey of what is the gayest thing I have ever seen. It was mud flaps on a pickup truck. The owner of the truck, why yes, he is sitting next to me.


Sorry Mike2, I'm just funnin with ya.

business in the front...party in the back...

business in the front...party in the back...
Thats the whole idea :thumbup
I had to shave for the "business look" too






Check out my first post too. I just ran the frist tank with the Tornados installed and the milage went up 1/2 MPG. I think I'm going to run at least 1 more tank through it, then remove them and see if the milage goes back down.

Shave?

Isn't that what women do to their crotch?

Shave?

Isn't that what women do to their crotch?
the good ones wax

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Check out how fast the price of his fuel went up everytime:shocked I have that look also after buying gas these days!

*sigh*

http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/5219/shitty8we.gif

YAH GRILLZ

Check out how fast the price of his fuel went up everytime:shocked I have that look also after buying gas these days!
I noticed that too.
Cant think of anything else to say other than ......****!

*sigh*

http://img326.imageshack.us/img326/5219/shitty8we.gif

YAH GRILLZ


Yea, luv the SUFI on the forehead, jst saw him a couple weeks ago

what the hell is SUFI?

Superfinger......check out danecook.com...he is ****ing hilarious

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/320200/fullsize/100_1087%20copy.jpg

LMAO!!!!!!!

I like this one

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/254274/fullsize/Mikey2_goofin.jpg

I like this one

http://www.supermotors.org/getfile/254274/fullsize/Mikey2_goofin.jpg


Rob would hit that chit :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Rob would hit that chit :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

He has!

PPPPFFFFFFTTTTT!!!!!

Mike's old news, it's like throwin a hotdog down a hallway now.

Thats so sick man! Mike you whore!

PPPPFFFFFFTTTTT!!!!!

Mike's old news, it's like throwin a hotdog down a hallway now.

Thats some funny shit

Related?
http://www.bankspower.com/onTelevision_clips/Trucks-StaceyD.jpg

Related?
http://www.bankspower.com/onTelevision_clips/Trucks-StaceyD.jpg


That's what I was thinking while I was photoshopping it.


And DANE COOK is the funniest sonufabitch you've ever heard.

Milage is up to almost 12.5 now. It seems to be getting better with every tank with the Tornados installed

so i take it its working for you?

so i take it its working for you?
So far it is

cool, might give it a shot. i need all the help i can get

Check my first post on the first page. I update it every day

Well I'm calling it done here. The Tornado DOES WORK!
Unbelievable isn't it. I'm going to buy one for the Explorer now too.
I would go on more with the test, but I just can't take the heat anymore. I gotta run the A/C. I feel like I'm going to pass out driving home in that damn truck with all the windows up

Way togo Mike. I think im going to get 2 of them to every little bit counts right now.

I took mine off after I did not notice a difference. I also did like you did, Mike....I still do with every fill-up....

It could be I did not notice the difference because I have MASS air...:shrug Thats my guess anyways.....

Also, You have two against the one I had installed.....

I am not putting it down, since I have heard so many swear by it. I did contact "Tornado" and told them the following:

"If the Tornado is so good and those what its suppose to do, then why only give it a 30 day warranty....It took me thirty days to find out it did not make a difference in my truck".....

I even told them that "I believe if they really stand behind their product, they should atleast give it a longer warranty"....

Their response was the following:

"Since it was over 30 days since I bought it, they could not do anything for me"....

This might bring up some arguments as too who is right or wrong. This is not the reason for me responding to this thread, I just simply wanted to express my experience with the "Tornado"....:banghead

Allcruisen :imp :usa

Bottom line from Me at least...Tornado does not do anyting but get your money...

I'm too lazy to do the math. At the given 1/2 MPG increase you got how long(miles) appox does it take to pay for itself?

I'm too lazy to do the math. At the given 1/2 MPG increase you got how long(miles) appox does it take to pay for itself?


I don't know...it was $106 for both of them right from Tornado. So if gas is $3.50 a gallon I'll save about $3.50 every tank, so in 34 tanks it will pay for itself. I'll do that in 3 months.


"If the Tornado is so good and those what its suppose to do, then why only give it a 30 day warranty....It took me thirty days to find out it did not make a difference in my truck".....

I even told them that "I believe if they really stand behind their product, they should atleast give it a longer warranty"....

Their response was the following:

"Since it was over 30 days since I bought it, they could not do anything for me"....

This might bring up some arguments as too who is right or wrong. This is not the reason for me responding to this thread, I just simply wanted to express my experience with the "Tornado"....:banghead

Allcruisen :imp :usa
I appreciate the input. Some people I have talked to say it didn't work and some say it did. I'm sure driving style and the engine/tranny/ axle ratios/tires/ wind restance and all that stuff have a lot to do with it. And about the warranty, its 4 months now.

And about the warranty, its 4 months now.

Well, Maybe they did listen to me anyway.... :shrug :toothless

Allcruisen :imp :usa

Intrestring......some of the pics from my first post have been deleted by supermotors and one of them has been replaced with one of Plug's pics.
Ain't that some shit.

So anyways....I still pimpin the Tornadoes in the F150 and the Explorer. I'm thinkin about buying one for the 79 F350 just to see how one works with a carbed engine but I hardly ever drive the truck so I don't know. I might do 500 miles in one year with it at most

Fill out a support request on Supermotors. I got a reply and a fix in 10 minutes at 10pm at night.

My electric fan writeup had a bunch of red X's. The pics were still on my account, but not on my writeup for some reason. They said it was the gigawatts capacitator software that didnt compile correctly.

Intrestring......some of the pics from my first post have been deleted by supermotors and one of them has been replaced with one of Plug's pics.
Ain't that some shit.

So anyways....I still pimpin the Tornadoes in the F150 and the Explorer. I'm thinkin about buying one for the 79 F350 just to see how one works with a carbed engine but I hardly ever drive the truck so I don't know. I might do 500 miles in one year with it at most

It's from that time period Mike when Supermotors went down...anything around that may time frame was lost.

but hey, just seeing this the first time, this was great. real controlled (about as good as it gets given it's not a totally controlled environment), and you netted a 4.7% increase roughly.

So how does the .5MPG/4.7% increase compare to what tornado says you should get?

If I remember right it said anywhere from 2% to 21%, depending on the type of car.
I know a lot of guys that have used it and said it didn't help at all.

Combustion efficency today is about 97% efficent. Take that as you wish.

Whats that supposed to mean?

It means on older cars that aren't as efficient you'll see more of an increase in power and mileage. They don't do much on newer rigs.
I doubt his efficiency numbers though IIRC most modern autos only have 60% efficiency.

So what are these efficiancy numbers based on?

The efficiance of what? Or the percentage of what?

Combustion efficency today is about 97% efficent. Take that as you wish. Isn't heat energy? Thus there is still a large lost of energy via cumbustion in the form of heat.

Isn't heat energy? Thus there is still a large lost of energy via cumbustion in the form of heat.

Yup, heat is also considered to be energy. If you take heat energy into account vehicles are only about 35% efficient.
But I was talking about combustion efficiency. I doubt that modern vehicles can possibly burn 97% of the fuel they use. If you can show me proof I'll accept it but otherwise I don't believe it.