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84excursion
10-17-2003, 09:00 PM
I am going to remove the coil buckets from my TTB for my swap, and replace them with older ones.

I have a set from 78-79 bronco, are they the same depth, (up and down) as the TTB buckets?

EvilBronc
10-17-2003, 09:07 PM
I'm pretty sure they are. Just mount them flush with the bottom of your frame rail and you will be good to go.

Like thishttp://www.superford.org/registry/vehicles/showmedia.php?id=78296

Chris85xlt
10-17-2003, 09:19 PM
what if u mount them as high as possibly so that way u can run a really tall coil which might give u more flex and travel. think it would work?

EvilBronc
10-17-2003, 10:10 PM
yes but you would need to chop off the lower lip on the coil tower

plug ugly
10-18-2003, 04:53 AM
that would actually be an interesting discussion.
would a taller coil give more flex for the same tire size?

dogonmut
10-18-2003, 06:30 AM
If you move the buckets up you'll run into some trouble on the drivers side because of the steering box if you plan to bolt it on. If you weld it on it shouldn't be an issue but you'll probley need to cut out some of your inner finder well.

If you go that rout, you'll need to gusset the back side of the bucket to the top of the frame rail or the leverage of the vehicle weight will bend the bucket since there's no bottom support and there's not alot of material mounted to the side of the frame rail.

Since to do that you'll need to cut the bottom lip of the 78 bucket off, I'd suggest you weld a 3/16 plate to the back side of the bucket. The plate should be the length and width of the remaining mounting surface of the bucket and long enough to place the bucket at your desired height and extend down 3/16 past the bottom of the frame rail. Next gusset it on each side from the new material to the angled portion of the bucket. Then weld on perpendicular tabs on the bottom and bolt them to the bottom side of the frame rail. Stiil gusset the back side to the top of the frame rail.

Just a referance of the height of the spring bucket. Sorry, could only find a pic of the pass side.:shrug
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=85786&toggle=fullsize&f=004_spring bucket.jpg

dogonmut
10-18-2003, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by plug ugly
would a taller coil give more flex for the same tire size?

Only if the taller coil had a lower spring rate then the shorter coil. If there're the same rate, making it taller won't make it softer/more flexable.

dogonmut
10-18-2003, 06:50 AM
Originally posted by EvilBronc
I'm pretty sure they are. Just mount them flush with the bottom of your frame rail and you will be good to go.

No they are not the same height. The 78/79 buckets are shorter by about 1.5".

dogonmut
10-18-2003, 06:51 AM
Yes, I am post whoring.:D

Sorry.

EvilBronc
10-18-2003, 08:30 AM
haha! I was right about one thing though, at least give me credit for that:goodfinge

plug ugly
10-18-2003, 01:00 PM
Originally posted by dogonmut
If you move the buckets up you'll run into some trouble on the drivers side usset the back side to the top of the frame rail.



cut most of this post so as to save space, but

Scott, I dont think what you recommend is mandatory, tho prolly a good idea. our buddy bill with the chevy has no lower lip on his and the integrity of the bucket has been fine. His frame is boxed, however, and he had to put steel plate behind the bucket for a smooth mounting surface, but again, the bucket is not reinforced.

plug ugly
10-18-2003, 01:12 PM
Originally posted by dogonmut
No they are not the same height. The 78/79 buckets are shorter by about 1.5".

I would argue this one too. The older ones are at best about .5 to 1" max taller. i will see if I can find a pic i took to prove this. The gain/loss from the buckets can really only be had from lowering the buckets IMHO, which is a popular EB mod to retain factory-like coil lengths. Personally i wouldnt plan on the buckets changin much if I were planning my sas again. I spent a lot of time worrying about final ride height when I did mine, only to find out is was wasted time.

84excursion
10-18-2003, 02:02 PM
Yeah i measered them both out, and the 80+ buckets
measured within an inch of the 78-79 buckets.

I am using the 6 - 6.5 " lift coils for a 79 Bronco, I know that the 78-79 springs are 2 " taller than my 84, so will the new lift total be 8 - 8.5"?

And I noticed that your picture of the buckets you had three bolts in the side, and two in the bottom of the bucket, Is that enough, or did you also weld it?

plug ugly
10-18-2003, 11:02 PM
here are two pics I have. it shows it pretty well. not totally accurate because i was having a had time holding it level, but its a max of 1"

http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=89585&toggle=fullsize&f=buckets.jpg



http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=89586&toggle=fullsize&f=buckets2.jpg

dogonmut
10-19-2003, 03:13 AM
Well if that don't beat all. I stand corrected.

I try not to speak out of turn and only on subjects I actually have 1st hand knowledge about. I'm very sorry for the misinformation.

Please remember, I smoked a lot of crack as a young child and I think the blows from kick boxing are starting to have an effect.:wacko

Sorry again for the misinfromation.

dogonmut
10-19-2003, 03:25 AM
Originally posted by plug ugly
Scott, I dont think what you recommend is mandatory, tho prolly a good idea. our buddy bill with the chevy has no lower lip on his and the integrity of the bucket has been fine. His frame is boxed, however, and he had to put steel plate behind the bucket for a smooth mounting surface, but again, the bucket is not reinforced.

I tend to build things extra beefy to prevent unforseen failure. Some may call it over kill but I haven't seen any of my fab work fail (I'm currently knocking on wood).

You really don't need the tabs on the bottom side as long as you weld the bottom side of the plate to the frame. I would still recommend the gusseting.

plug ugly
10-19-2003, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by dogonmut
Well if that don't beat all. I stand corrected.



I would be interested to see if there are some variances between the years tho. Lots of people are of the same opinion as you had Scott, and I only measured becasue it was a topic of debate while i had mine sitting off in the garage.

I cant see why there would an difference, but it is ford so you never know for sure

Bull
10-21-2003, 11:31 AM
I have a 1979 ford bronco and i need the front coil buckets. does anyone know what will work on it, and where i can get these. Will the late model bronco buckets work? Thanks

84excursion
10-21-2003, 01:36 PM
well if the 78-79 can work on the 80+, I am sure the newer ones would work for the older models. Just hole drilling and bols I guess.

I will be removing my quad shock set-up from my 84, here in a week or so, I would sell them for 50 cents.

Bull
10-21-2003, 02:18 PM
Cool for 50 cents id take them.

NDIXIE
10-27-2003, 09:54 PM
I have the kit from Jeff's Graveyard and they told me that the kit uses the late modle buckets. They told me that I would gain 2", 1" for the axle and another because the coil buckets sits lower. So I ordered a set of springs for the late model buckets.:D