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-Spazmatic-
11-01-2006, 03:14 AM
Well this discussion is obviously NOT going to be everyone's cup-o-tea, but if you'd like to join me in this endeavor please go right ahead.

We were discussing v6 today in my networking + class, and the transition from 4 to 6. All I can say is WOW, I'm almost frightened to be a CNS major right now...

Our instructor said that many major corporations are planning on building new, parallel networks running along side the old ones, and transition gradually (since you can't just flip a switch and convert 3000 nodes overnight)....holy cow! I can't imagine...but I guess there's really no other way if you want minimal downtime..can you imagine someone like Google, building their entire network back up from SCRATCH, just to dismantle it later? Damn. I'd bet the router/switch manufacturers are really happy about this move.

I already see many good things coming from v.6 but I wonder if the 75 or so companies that have class A ip addresses right now will be mad that their multi-million dollar pets will be pretty much worthless when the new setup rolls around...because with ip v.6, they will have enough numbers available to give 12 adresses to every man, woman, and child on the face of the entire PLANET. That's a lot of IPs!! This basically means that the few with Class A IP's won't be able to lease out blocks of IP addresses anymore, basically because hey won't have them to lease. The instructor said this move will probably dawn the age of networked dishwashers, clothes washers, dryers, coffee pots, etc., not only on a local network but physically viewable via the net around the world. Pretty cool eh?

90Beater
11-01-2006, 03:38 AM
IP6 has been in the works for so long I wonder if it will ever be implemented. It's kind of like HDTV, there are many things that make it superior but getting all the hardware compatible and like you mentioned getting the world to change their DNS servers will be a major headache.

There are workarounds such as local DHCP servers can do what they do now and translate local addresses out to the WAN but they can also risk running out of addresses.

There are hardware issues with legacy devices like printers and old network cards that are not upgradeable.

I was looking forward to the change and started planning for it about 5 years ago but gave up when they kept delaying it.

mda
11-01-2006, 10:17 AM
Not as big a deal as you think for the major carriers since all of the high end routers OS's support both versions. As long as this will take anyway I'm sure all the old edge routers will be long gone and replaced with newer routers that do support both. Sprint was supposed to have already started.


All I can say is WOW, I'm almost frightened to be a CNS major right now...

Oh and Spaz, what does a Clinical Nurse Specialist care about IPv6 anyway?:goodfinge

94_chickentaco
11-01-2006, 11:23 AM
IP6 has been in the works for so long I wonder if it will ever be implemented.

Agreed. I work with this stuff all day long

-Spazmatic-
11-01-2006, 12:24 PM
It's in the near future, the need for networking and expansion has almost overwhelmed v4.

I know it's been around for a while now, and just like you said it's a matter of implementing it (I know there are places out there that already have v6 running), but I wonder if this exchange will bring about the forthcoming of Internet 2.0? I'm not sure but does the OSI standard (or model, rather) comply with 2.0 or will there be a completely new set of protocols and models?

I love this stuff :toothless

94_chickentaco
11-01-2006, 03:39 PM
its one of those things that "WHEN" your average company "ABSOLUTELY NEEDS" to implement it they will wait 6 months think about it, complain, whine, then finally start working on it one year later.

mda
11-01-2006, 04:24 PM
its one of those things that "WHEN" your average company "ABSOLUTELY NEEDS" to implement it they will wait 6 months think about it, complain, whine, then finally start working on it one year later.


Nah, that is referred to as "consulting". You know the saying:

If you can't produce a solution.....there is money to be made in prolonging the problem.:toothless

SigEpBlue
11-01-2006, 05:10 PM
If you can't produce a solution.....there is money to be made in prolonging the problem.:toothless

Same could be said for CPU/GPU scaling at the moment.

-Spazmatic-
11-01-2006, 07:07 PM
Same could be said for CPU/GPU scaling at the moment.

Where's the fun in that? :toothless

dsotmoon
11-01-2006, 07:48 PM
all i want to know is where is my 12 IP's :toothless