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Shadofax
12-08-2006, 01:16 AM
So I was in Erie (north sub of Denver) over thanksgiving visiting my girlfriend and saw a real nice 78-79 red/white Bronco for sale out in front of a house in her neighborhood. Just wondering if that is anyone's on FSB? Had 33's, pretty stock, very good shape.

Anyone live in this area? It seriously looks like I am going to move back to Colorado (lived in Parker 97-00), and live in this Erie area.

83rustbucket
12-08-2006, 01:20 AM
No info on the Bronco, 150 miles north of me, but it would be great to have you move to Colorado. Being a previous resident I do not have to tell you how great it is, not just for wheeling.

Shadofax
12-08-2006, 01:32 AM
No info on the Bronco, 150 miles north of me, but it would be great to have you move to Colorado. Being a previous resident I do not have to tell you how great it is, not just for wheeling.

Well for wheeling It's hard to beat here in Portland, Or. Tillamook State Forest and sand lake are within 70 miles, TSF only 50 mins. for me. I'm not real hot on having to replace my windshield yearly again, and I pray for no hail damage. for me, I shock the shit out of everyone I touch (need to drink more water, less beer), and wheelin' at 12000 feet is not something I'm real into honestly. I love the front range view though, and It wouldn't be that far from Estes Park.

poopy_pants
12-08-2006, 10:27 AM
I love Colorado. In almost no other state can you do the same things as you can do here pretty much all year long.

96blkbeauty
12-08-2006, 03:09 PM
Shadofax...man your bronco is sweet. It really is one of the nicest i have seen. I love that soft top and the wheels. I am from Greeley...if you move back to CO I will for sure have to get some pointers on building up my rig.

fishinnutt
12-08-2006, 04:38 PM
Colorado's super close proximity to Moab rules! Most of the wheeling here is not all that fullsize friendly particularly if body damage or scrub oak damage is a problem. If the wheeling is fullsize friendly the trails are more like gentle sightseeing trips. I would be interested in hearing Colorado fullsize wheelers opinions on good fullsize trails.

Shadofax
12-09-2006, 05:57 PM
Colorado's super close proximity to Moab rules! Most of the wheeling here is not all that fullsize friendly particularly if body damage or scrub oak damage is a problem. If the wheeling is fullsize friendly the trails are more like gentle sightseeing trips. I would be interested in hearing Colorado fullsize wheelers opinions on good fullsize trails.

Who knows what it's like now, but China Wall was pretty FS friendly. I'm more into the sightseeing/ medium challenge or less trails with camping and what not at this point. If you want to do the real hard core trails I really think you have to make a tronco or move to thinner vehicle width.

fishinnutt
12-09-2006, 07:55 PM
Or perhaps you have to not mind that your Bronco would look like a raisin after going on all the narrow trails. There are definately plenty of trails to choose from in the Med. challenge/good sightseeing category. China wall is a cool trail. Once I get my Bronco back together it will mostly see the fullsize friendly trails for sure. I will be to nice to turn into a raisin. The state or whomever is responsible is also going to let us re-open some of the trails in the Hayman burn area that were real good trails ( Hackett, Metberry and Longwater ).

Larston
12-10-2006, 10:12 AM
Colorado's super close proximity to Moab rules! Most of the wheeling here is not all that fullsize friendly particularly if body damage or scrub oak damage is a problem. If the wheeling is fullsize friendly the trails are more like gentle sightseeing trips. I would be interested in hearing Colorado fullsize wheelers opinions on good fullsize trails.

Not sure what your full definition of fullsize friendly is, but I found very few local trails that I wouldn't drag my Bronco down when it still had the full body. There are a couple with heavy brush in sections, but racing stripes buff out :toothless

Larston
12-10-2006, 10:18 AM
Who knows what it's like now, but China Wall was pretty FS friendly. I'm more into the sightseeing/ medium challenge or less trails with camping and what not at this point. If you want to do the real hard core trails I really think you have to make a tronco or move to thinner vehicle width.

Having a Tronco doesn't help much, either, the hardcore stuff is still awful tough on sheetmetal.

If you end up in Erie, you'll be positioned for a ton of great trails from the Wyoming border to the Springs. You'll also be in easy driving distance of the Leadville and Buena Vista area roads which will give you a ton of altitude, incredible views, and a few tough areas to play on.

Shadofax
12-10-2006, 12:52 PM
Having a Tronco doesn't help much, either, the hardcore stuff is still awful tough on sheetmetal.

If you end up in Erie, you'll be positioned for a ton of great trails from the Wyoming border to the Springs. You'll also be in easy driving distance of the Leadville and Buena Vista area roads which will give you a ton of altitude, incredible views, and a few tough areas to play on.

yea, I remember Leadville. but "positioned" is kinda the word....none of what you describe is close compared to what I'm used to. There is nothing like jumping on a road and taking a 50 min. drive to a whole forrest area filled with trails. Then again, if it's just moderate/mild wheeling, camping, etc. that I'll be doing I won't be so worried about breakage far from home.

And Moab isn't exactly close...IIRC Denver area to Moab must be around 300 miles right? have to check yahoo maps. It certainly is closer than now though...think it's about 1k miles from here. but anyway it'd take a days drive there and back so you'd want to be there several days for sure.

Most of the truggies I see are all beat to hell, so body panels (at least what they actually still have on the truck) that are straight would look funny on a truggy. They build these things to beat them.

Brush damage though I have no concern, the truck is white. It has all kinds of pinstripes. After a wax you never see them on the truck. I don't care about the occassional dent.

You're just up in Fort Collins aren't you Larry?
So have you guys along the front range been having any get togethers?

fishinnutt
12-10-2006, 04:50 PM
As Moab goes 300 miles is a drop in the bucket. There are people in Utah that have that far to drive. You definately should spend a long 3-5 day period of time for sure if you drove from out of state to wheel there especially if something goes wrong. I prefer the five day trip, I like to get there a day earlier than my group and leave a day later than everyone. There are people all over this country that wish they could get to Moab by noon the same day. I wish I could drive to the Rubicon or Tellico in the same amount of time it takes me to get to Moab. I really,really,really dig Moab.

Aurorabusa
12-12-2006, 01:59 PM
My fullsize has a few dings in it here in CO but i believe it add a new level of cool!! Im glad my mirrors fold in.

fishinnutt
12-12-2006, 03:15 PM
It takes an uncommon individual to wheel a fullsize. I am very happy wheeling a fullsize. All my Jeep friends like to talk trash about Fords, I tell them you have something that everone has, I have something everyone only wishes they could have. If I wanted a Jeep I could find a 1000 good examples instantly. If I needed a new '78 it would take alot of research and work to find something anywhere near ready to go.

Larston
12-12-2006, 11:22 PM
yea, I remember Leadville. but "positioned" is kinda the word....none of what you describe is close compared to what I'm used to. There is nothing like jumping on a road and taking a 50 min. drive to a whole forrest area filled with trails. Then again, if it's just moderate/mild wheeling, camping, etc. that I'll be doing I won't be so worried about breakage far from home.

And Moab isn't exactly close...IIRC Denver area to Moab must be around 300 miles right? have to check yahoo maps. It certainly is closer than now though...think it's about 1k miles from here. but anyway it'd take a days drive there and back so you'd want to be there several days for sure.

Most of the truggies I see are all beat to hell, so body panels (at least what they actually still have on the truck) that are straight would look funny on a truggy. They build these things to beat them.

Brush damage though I have no concern, the truck is white. It has all kinds of pinstripes. After a wax you never see them on the truck. I don't care about the occassional dent.

You're just up in Fort Collins aren't you Larry?
So have you guys along the front range been having any get togethers?

I can put you on about 200 miles of full-size freindly trails within an hour of Erie depending on I-70 traffic. Most of the northern stuff is pretty easy, very few even rate moderate, and a lot of it is kept pretty quiet since it's hard to find a somewhat empty trail around here any more. If you don't mind the brush, pretty much every trail north of Denver and east of the continental divide is fullsize friendly (there are a few exceptions).

I'm from just east of Ft. Collins and have been running the local trails for over 25 years now. There are some very relaxing rides around Ft. Collins, but not much with good views. That's why I bring up the high country stuff, a lot of people want to hit that right away, then start exploring the local runs. The Colorado 4x4 website had a northern meet and greet a couple months ago and the local Fullsize guys got together last spring. For some reason it seems to be hard to get a bunch of Broncos together (I'm guilty of being somewhat antisocial myself.)

As for truggies being beat to hell, yup :toothless This shot was taken about 2 1/2 hours from Erie. Patriot trail in the Independence system. Definitely not fullsize friendly. The body damage got a lot worse about four obstacles later.

http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/458912/fullsize/indy.jpg

Shadofax
12-26-2006, 01:04 AM
yea, well, cool. so being anti-social myself, I should be able to entice you out on some runs if I provide beer.:beer

not that I'd follow you in your truggy, but if we could rally some broncos for some mild/moderate wheeling, maybe more for those that dare, with a great dose of camping, and perhaps fishing, that would be great. Does not have to be just about broncos, but if we have a mix, with a good showing of Broncs, that would be great.

I posted this on Davids thread, but it's sure I will be there some time around april next year. so I'll let you all know how things are going.

Larston
12-27-2006, 12:31 AM
I'm always up for a trip, just depends on how the work schedule goes :banghead

The last time Zoso pushed for a Bronco run, about 20 rigs actually showed up and started down the trail (only 4 finished, but that's another story.) Occasionally a fullsize specific run shows up on Colorado4x4.org, too.

Shadofax
12-27-2006, 02:05 AM
I'm always up for a trip, just depends on how the work schedule goes :banghead

The last time Zoso pushed for a Bronco run, about 20 rigs actually showed up and started down the trail (only 4 finished, but that's another story.) Occasionally a fullsize specific run shows up on Colorado4x4.org, too.

That's a lot. one trail, if it's tough given the range of participants, that can be real difficult with that many rigs. That's what I would miss with TSF....you can divide that many rigs into 3 groups depending on build and have them do different trails in the same area and meet up at a location later. I love it when anything more than 3-4 rigs show. about 5 rigs is optimal. double digits on the rigs going down 1 trail can take a long time.

Larston
12-27-2006, 11:27 AM
That's a lot. one trail, if it's tough given the range of participants, that can be real difficult with that many rigs. That's what I would miss with TSF....you can divide that many rigs into 3 groups depending on build and have them do different trails in the same area and meet up at a location later. I love it when anything more than 3-4 rigs show. about 5 rigs is optimal. double digits on the rigs going down 1 trail can take a long time.

Nah, this was an easy trail (Carnage Canyon near Boulder. Easy may be the wrong term, it's tough to get a fullsize through with no scratches.) The tough part was dealing with the 40 Jeeps that showed up at the same time, and the 12 inches of ice that covered the trail. Four of us got on the trail, then a Jeep jumped in and broke on the first obstacle and kept everyone else out. IIRC, our group gave up and turned around.

The club I run with from time to time, the Mountaineers out of Ft. Collins, regularly runs 15 to 25 trucks on a trail run. It can be a lot of fun if everyone plays nice. It's a long day when you get an a$$hole in the mix. A lot of the trails around here are sightseeing trails so it just turns into a pleasant drive through the woods.

Swat
12-27-2006, 05:57 PM
Fawk! almost missed this thread. I'd be glad to meet you and suspect we will organize a meet and great in the spring. The tight twisty trails here is why I cut my bronc all up to fit and not be torn-up. But there is plenty of fun camping, easy, and beautiful trails.

Shadofax
12-28-2006, 07:55 PM
Fawk! almost missed this thread. I'd be glad to meet you and suspect we will organize a meet and great in the spring. The tight twisty trails here is why I cut my bronc all up to fit and not be torn-up. But there is plenty of fun camping, easy, and beautiful trails.

Yep :beer

but tight twisty trails can be said of many places...in the PNW there are so many truggies runnning around it's not even funny. I still have not really changed, I like moderate trails, and want to drive my truck there, in some comfort, and come home with it, dent or scratches ok. Camping and stuff included, certainly. Never will tear into "the Juice/Shadofax".

You're right though Larston, I actually prefer not to wheel with folks I don't know, unless they are friends of someone I do know, and those friends can vouch for them. Can't stand loudmouths, or hecklers/pushy people wanting to coax you into doing something stupid you know is beyond your rig, or causing other probs. I also love the wheeler that comes along with NOTHING in case of probs....he's done no regular maintenance, has no tools, spare parts, fluids etc. and when he breaks looks for someone to do it all for him.

Shadofax
01-01-2007, 10:55 PM
So I pulled out my old"The best of Colorado 4-wheel drive roads", I was kinda focused on stuff not too far away, so was looking at Arapaho/Roosevelt National Forests. Anyone have familiarity with the following trails:

Green Ridge
Kelly Flats
Flowers Road
Mulstay
Pierson Peak
Kingston Peak
or bill Moore Lake?