What vehicles do you think shouldnt have been made?

Delorean's - Because they were a failure
Honda Element - I just cant stand those FKN things.
VW Bugs - More than enough reasons.
Ford Explorer - Basterds replaced the bronco.
S10 Blazer - P.O.S.
Bronco II - P.O.S. also
Geo Metro - P.O.S. to the 3rd power.
Station Wagon - Just didnt make a good pimp mobile. :goodfinge

Those are the main ones. Too many others to list.

:uke:Le Car


EDIT: more to come later......

Pacer :goodfinge

Mustang II's (Thanks Iacocca for almost killing the Mustang):twak

Can't forget the Aztek.

I just hated the looks of the Gremlin

Gay ass Avalanches

Chrysler K cars

Originally posted by Dixie Pirate
Mustang II's (Thanks Iacocca for almost killing the Mustang):twak

Didn't the mustang 2 come out after the Mustangs production was stopped.?? Atleast this is how I remember it.

Never actually seen a mustang 2 that I know of..

JEEP LIBERTY!

Originally posted by 78Bronco4x4
Ford Explorer - Basterds replaced the bronco

Don't you mean the Expedition??

HYBRIDS
AND SUBARUS (BECAUSE TREEHUGGERS DRIVE THEM)

Originally posted by 78Bronco4x4
VW Bugs - More than enough reasons.

explain your logic here? they make awesome dune buggies and killer drag racers.

mini coopers....

Delorean's - people only like it because of the three movies it was in.

Originally posted by gobucs1
Delorean's - people only like it because of the three movies it was in.
4 if you count the wedding singer:goodfinge

i'd like them if they had a Northstar V-8 out of a caddy instead of a Peugoet V-shit in them..

Originally posted by Bronco85
Didn't the mustang 2 come out after the Mustangs production was stopped.?? Atleast this is how I remember it.

Never actually seen a mustang 2 that I know of..

Mustang production never stopped. Iacocca had them redesigned for the 74 model year and II's were produced up to 78 until they were replaced by the Fox body style in 79. The II's were also the death of the convertable Mustangs until 1983.

Here's a pic of a II

http://www.dpo.uab.edu/~bmclean/pics/74stang2.jpg

Anything with a bowtie in the grill???:toothless

Lets see..here's my list:

Mekur XR4Ti
Lincoln Blackwood
Chevy Chevette - I had one, I know what a POS that was
Subaru SVX - flathead six and half windows = commercial failure
Plymouth Horizon/Dodge Omni
Any Peugot
Yugo - you'd be better off driving a cardboard box
Dodge Challenger Turbo 2.2 - You didnt see GM putting a 4 banger in the Camaro did ya? :twak :banghead
AMC Eagle
Ford Aspire
Ford Escape
Pontiac Aztek
Buick Reatta
Cadillac Biarritz

ford pinto
ford aspire
dodge raider
nissan stanza
ford tempo
ford topaz
geo tracker
suzuki sammuri
dodge omni...the list goes on...

the corvair

Ford Explorer - Basterds replaced the bronco

that would be the expedition buddy....



lets not forget about the PROBE, what a pile o' sht that was. oh and just recently the ford golf cart called the think. oh yeah and the contour too.

Originally posted by Dixie Pirate
Mustang production never stopped. Iacocca had them redesigned for the 74 model year and II's were produced up to 78 until they were replaced by the Fox body style in 79. The II's were also the death of the convertable Mustangs until 1983.

Here's a pic of a II

http://www.dpo.uab.edu/~bmclean/pics/74stang2.jpg

Man thats gotta be one of the ugliest cars I've ever seen:)

I could have swarn I ready somewhere they stopped production. Maybe it was they where going to stop production or somthing.

http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=58322&toggle=fullsize&f=cobrafront.jpg

Mustang II
3400LBs
perfect vehicle for the POS SROD tranny
28 spline Ford 8" rear end
4 bolt wheels with like 8" brakes (definate problem!)

http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=79580&toggle=fullsize&f=DSC00250.JPG
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=89537&toggle=fullsize&f=Picture 056.jpg

Originally posted by Lookinfurfun
I just hated the looks of the Gremlin

They was UGLY, but not as bad as others (Pacer comes to mind) and if you ever drove one with the 304 and limited slip rear end (X model, made from left over Javelin parts)... well, let's just say it would have earned some of your respect!

The Aztec is the fugliest thing I've ever seen on 4 wheels. :beer

They was UGLY

OK..if I wasn't clear..they were FUGLY:goodfinge :toothless

The VW rabit and cabrio I hate those little things. But nothing is as bad as the aztek. And DUSTBUSTERS (minivans) but i undersdant them cause they are economical for familes

is a mustang II kinda like a pimped out maverick?

No, its an overgrown pinto.


A maverick is an evolution of the early mustang/falcon

Originally posted by BucKinBroNcO
is a mustang II kinda like a pimped out maverick?

Closer to a Pinto. They actually made some pretty cool Mavericks. Check out a 71 Grabber...302/3spd manual. Pretty sweet car.

My fairlane engine is from a 73 maverick grabber...302 still runs good

Honda Civic!

those idiots with the fart cans love those things:twak

Subaru Baja - looks like the illegitimate love child of a Geo and an Explorer SportTrac.

Any truck or suv costing over 40000 with 6 inches of lift40 inch tires and chrome everywhere just so they look good on pavement.

any
TOYOTA
HONDA
SUBARU
HUNDAI(sp)
CHEVY
DODGE
PLYMOTH
CHRYSLER
AMG
JEEP

FORDwas the only that that should have been built!:toothless

Originally posted by BucKinBroNcO
geo tracker
suzuki sammuri


Hey now!! The little Sammi's we were out with up at Paragon this past weekend kicked ass -- saw a Tracker up there that didn't look too innocent either. I loved my little Tracker, would've kept if it had been 4wd.

Only one car for ya - TOYOTA ECHO!!
Ugly little things. I call 'em the psycho car because that movie Robin Williams played a psycho in (One Hour Photo ) he drove one.

Originally posted by Miketnf150
any
TOYOTA
HONDA
SUBARU
HUNDAI(sp)
CHEVY
DODGE
PLYMOTH
CHRYSLER
AMG
JEEP

FORDwas the only that that should have been built!:toothless

:rockon

ya know guys and gals i was going thru the list and i never saw the chevy VEGA listed :shrug

Omnis and Horizons ROCKED!! We had a few of them as kids and we beat the piss out of them. THey were bullit proof. You get 4 full size guys in there and go rompin through fields, snowbanks, anything. Then....they all went to the demolition derby, where believe it or not they did well.

My list IS the Honda Element.....for now.

Originally posted by gearrat
ya know guys and gals i was going thru the list and i never saw the chevy VEGA listed :shrug

A great drag car!

Chevy Avalanche
Mustang II
Pontiac Aztec
Ford Tempo

Mustang II's (Thanks Iacocca for almost killing the Mustang)

Actually you should THANK him for there even being a Mustang to kill in the first place!

He's the main guy responsible for the creation for the Mustang.
http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/ads/64-66/Time.jpg
http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/ads/64-66/Newsweek.jpg
The Oil Crisis is to blame for the MII.


Someone said something about the Mustang being cancelled or changed....

In 1987 Ford was going to change the layout of the Mustang to a front wheel drive platform.

That platform was the Ford PROBE!!

Yes the Probe was almost a Mustang!

In fact I have a magazine packed away somewhere that has a bunch of spy photo's of a Probe with Mustang badging, and emblems along with some Ford Drawings for the concept.

If it wasn't for a massive letter writing campaign by Mustang buffs, other automotive enthusiasts, and automotive journalists it would've happened.

On the subject...

I don't think there is any car that should have never been made.
There were surely some really ugly ones (aztec), and some real pieces of shit (yugo) to come off the line, but think about the Edsel.
EVERYONE at that time thought that was the nastiest car ever made, and today look at how many people would kill to have one.

As ugly/shitty as they are/were they were made for a targeted market, and they sold.

Originally posted by Dixie Pirate
Subaru Baja - looks like the illegitimate love child of a Geo and an Explorer SportTrac.

Its basically the remake of the bandit

Oh yeah...
There were actually some pretty cool MustangII's.

The King Cobra, and the Monroe Mustang comes to mind.
(they were still dogs, but so was everything else at the time)

http://www.mustangii.net/photo_scans_handler.asp

http://www.mustangii.net/photo_scans_kingcobra.asp


Also.. what would Farrah Fawcet have driven in Charlie's Angels if there wasn't a Mustang II? :toothless

(Remember the white with Blue LeMans stripes?)

http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/timeline/74-78/76/Farrah.jpg

I can't belive no one mentioned the ford grenada or cadillac cimmeron .:uke: :uke:

if it had those 3 little letters... AMC, you knew it was a pos.

Originally posted by Dustin
that would be the expedition buddy....



lets not forget about the PROBE, what a pile o' sht that was. oh and just recently the ford golf cart called the think. oh yeah and the contour too.

Close enough, both are peices of shit.

The GEO Metro they make good paper waits. The VW thing and the Dawoo (sp) . Also LeCar.

Originally posted by teufelhunden
if it had those 3 little letters... AMC, you knew it was a pos.


that ain't no joke ... remember when they made harleys :histerica

Originally posted by Damager
that ain't no joke ... remember when they made harleys :histerica That wasn't AMC dude that was AMF like the bowling lanes.:thumbup

Originally posted by teufelhunden
if it had those 3 little letters... AMC, you knew it was a pos.

what about the cj's. Yes I know it is a jeep and everything but still

Originally posted by Kallure
Only one car for ya - TOYOTA ECHO!!
Ugly little things. I call 'em the psycho car because that movie Robin Williams played a psycho in (One Hour Photo ) he drove one.

OK I give up... I need to move out of this house now!! How can we have a list of like realistically 12 cars that shouldnt have been made and 2 of them are in my driveway or infront of my house...

Originally posted by 81Bronk36
OK I give up... I need to move out of this house now!! How can we have a list of like realistically 12 cars that shouldnt have been made and 2 of them are in my driveway or infront of my house...
thats kinda what i was thinking:D
dont forget bout the most important one of all...The Bronco. yup i'd be a rich man....

ANY French pos.......awful electricals and brake mounting!....followed by ANY Lucas electrics in any foreign vehicle.

any 74 year....emissions killed em in that year.

Oh, and those toyota scion xB things. You know, the one that looks like a toaster and is supposed to be a SUV. Ever since I first saw one I've hated it. Blech (http://www.scion.com/drive/photos/drive_xb_photos.html)

Originally posted by Dustin
lets not forget about the PROBE, what a pile o' sht that was.

oh your just pist that the probe was gonna replace the mustang :D, hell, better gas mileage, cleaner body lines, BARELY slower than a 5.0L, handles 10x better, i can see why ppl hate the probe, cus it was such a threat to the DIEING breed of crusty fox-body mustangs...

i can honestly say i would take a clean, low-miles 2nd generation probe GT over any mustang newer than a fox-body... and on another note, i've seen more mustangs riced out than civic's lately :goodfinge, the civic guy's are gettin good about hiding their rice haha...

Originally posted by stangmata50l
Its basically the remake of the bandit


I think you mean its a remake of the Subaru Brat.

The subaru brat to me was a smaller POS version of the el camino.

Originally posted by 78Bronco4x4
The subaru brat to me was a smaller POS version of the el camino.


Dude, don't knock the Brat. My brother learned to drive in one, 5 speed, AWD...sideways on the dirt roads of South GA. The thing has been jumped, crashed into tress and still runs like a top.

Originally posted by Dustin
. oh yeah and the contour too. \

any reason? just wondering have you ever driven one without the 4 banger if the contour shouldnt have been made what about the jag x-type the mazda 6, ford mondeo which has won something like 11 international awards. oh and the cougar all those cars are based on the CDW27 platform.

but back to the subject

i vote: bronco II
all chevys
mitsubushi lancer
lexus rx300

Originally posted by gearrat
ya know guys and gals i was going thru the list and i never saw the chevy VEGA listed :shrug



ahhh my mom had one of those!! what a POS

chevy nova's(not the muscle car)

Originally posted by BroncoBabe
I think you mean its a remake of the Subaru Brat.

Excatly what I meant.

Thanks! :thumbup

toyota cars

Originally posted by Jaxboro
Lets see..here's my list:

Mekur XR4Ti
Lincoln Blackwood
Chevy Chevette - I had one, I know what a POS that was
Subaru SVX - flathead six and half windows = commercial failure
Plymouth Horizon/Dodge Omni
Any Peugot
Yugo - you'd be better off driving a cardboard box
Dodge Challenger Turbo 2.2 - You didnt see GM putting a 4 banger in the Camaro did ya? :twak :banghead
AMC Eagle
Ford Aspire
Ford Escape
Pontiac Aztek
Buick Reatta
Cadillac Biarritz

i saw a mint chevy chevette tonight!:rockon

How about any 2WD SUV with a "More car like suspension!", or is designed to "Tame the road!" Call them what they are! A glorified van. Or that new one (Cadillac I think) that they refer to it as a "Performance Utility". Ugh!

Trabant
Gogomobile
Wartburg

ftp://ftp.team.net/ktud/pictures/Eastern.cars/Trabant/p50.jpg

Trabant [~en, ~en] 1. jackman 2. servant, companion (from a German-Hungarian dictionary - translated to English)
From the late '50s a vehicle, a personal carrier emerged from the Eastern part of Germany which became the symbol of Eastern transportation. That's the Trabant.

This car, which originally wasn't destined to be a car, created one of the biggest mistakes in automobile history. In the '50s, when cheap transportation was all the rage throughout Europe and small motorcycles, mopeds were the only means of transport, another idea existed for an intermediate vehicle between the car and the motorbike. Call it bubble-car, microcar, whatever - You'll get the impression.

The Trabant, which was originally called the AWZ P70 was originally intended to be a closed motorbike with a small engine and lightweight construction. A perfect mean of transportation for the whole family with a little boot at the back.

One of East Europe's biggest mistake was to keep the successor of the P70, the P601 in production for decades long after the original idea became worthless. And when they bolted a Volkswagen Polo engine into it, they disgraced the original spirit of the Trabant.

Why am I saying this? Look at the Goggomobil and compare it with the Trabant. Yes, the Trabant was the Eastern version. I'm not defending the idea, I'm just asking everyone to keep their head on the ground and look everything at prospect.


The history
DKW - Das Kleine Wunder (The small wonder). The German carmaker's pre-war type F8 became the archetype of all East German family cars.

The Zwickau Automobile Factory (AWZ) continued the production of the F8 and an updated version, the F9 after the War under the authority of the Soviets and then the East Germans.
At the early '50s it became crystal clear that these models were outdated. In 1953 production of the F9 was transferred to Eisenach, where EMW and later Wartburg were produced.
At Zwickau, a new model was developed, the P70 (P for plastic and 70 for the displacement which is about 700 cc).
This car was the first German small car with plastic body. The name of the material was Duroplast and contained resin, strengthened by wool.

The AWZ P70 debuted at the 1955 Leipzig Fair. Its engine was based on the old F8: two-cylinder, two-stroke, 690 cc, 22 bhp. With this engine the car which weighed 820 kg had a max. speed of 90 km/h. A three-speed asynchronized gearbox was fitted which transmitted the power to the front wheels.
The mechanical components were plain F8, but the powerplant was rotated by 90 degrees and placed further the front axle. So the wheelbase should've been lengthened by 220 mm. This resulted in better handling.

Beside the "Limousine" body style a "Kombi" estate and even a coupé was offered.

During the four year production life about 30 thousand cars were supplied.

In the meantime from 1957 on, a new updated model was on the market: the P50.


The P50 Trabant

This car carried the "Trabant" badge for the first time.
Comparison of dimensions: Trabant: 3375 mm length, 1500 mm width and 1395 mm height. Goggomobil T300 Limousine: 2900, 1280, 1310.

Yes, the P50 was bigger than the Goggo and more powerful, but the idea was the same. The shape wasn't too bad either, in '50s style.

The P50 as its name suggest carried a smaller engine: 500 cc, 18 bhp, still two-cylinder, two-stroke. The four-speed transmission was still asyncrohinised.

And in 1964 after 132000 P50s the new P601 debuted. For a very short time there was a P60 on the market, before the P601.
This car had a 594 cc, 26 bhp engine derived from the P50.
It sported new cylinders, new cylinder-heads and exhaust system.

The shape is ridiculous now, but it was beautiful for many in the last 3 decades. It's a normal limousine, not too extravagant.
It was easy to repair, easy to live with. Sure, it soon became outdated, old design but who cared? Here, many family men still cry back to their youth when they had a Trabant. Everyone had a joke about the Trabant, but it was still the basic mean of transport. The epitome of socialism: bad, not capable of doing too many things, not too efficient but still manages to work somehow :-)

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.goggomobil.com/&prev=/search%3Fq%3DGoggomobil%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26ie%3DU TF-8%26oe%3DUTF-8

Goggomobil - history of the small car from Dingolfing
The Goggomobil of the company Glas appeared in the autumn 1954. The German drivers dreamed usually already about a larger vehicle, but even at the beginning of the so-called wirtschaftswunders a VOLKSWAGEN beetle remained an unfulfillable dream for many. On the other hand the favorable cab scooters and vehicles were like the Isetta also not what many small breadwinners under a car imagined.

February 1955 began the series production of the Goggomobils, which was built until 1969. Starting from February 1957 the Goggo Coupé (on the left of a Coupé with an automeeting October 2000 in Dortmund) was manufactured. Both models had 250 at the beginning of alternatively ccm engine (the model could be driven also with the old driving licence of the class 1 for motorcycles) or 300 ccm engine until starting from October 1957 400 an ccm engine as the third variant was added. The two capacity-stronger engines became starting from summer 1965 ((300 ccm) and/or spring 1967 (400 ccm) no more not offered. End of the 60's was only for the few customers interesting the Goggo, still no driving licence of the class 3 to make wanted and the last Goggos with that 250 ccm engine was only installed in such a way. On 23 May 1969 - the last Goggos was built under the direction by BMW - the last came from about 280,000 Goggomobilen off the line.

Approximately 75 % the Goggos received for motorradfahrer to the interesting 250 ccm engine, after 1962 probably lay the portion of the smallest engine with 95 %. most Goggos were sedans (on the left of the model from 1964 to 1969, which was model from 1954 to 1966 optically identical, the door was however at the b-column scharniert), only about a third of the 280,000 Goggos might Coupés have been, which often send two-color lacquer finish in that were supplied.

In the Goggo a secondary act two-cylinder twin engine always schnurrte. The 250er carried 13.6 HP out from 247 ccm capacity and the quite high number of revolutions of 5.400 U/min. A diagonal nozzle carburetor provided for the fuel supply (mixture 1:25). The Goggos had air cooling and from the outset 12 volt V (OPEL built 1955 even into the top model captain still another 6 V battery and the beetle became the force package still many later spendiert.). The engine sat in the tail and the unsynchronisierte vierganggetriebe gave it in series in the Coupé with an electromagnetic vorwaehlschaltung at the instrument panel, which was to be had in the case of the sedan against surcharge. Progressively, because vierganggetriebe gave it e.g. with the OPEL record in series only to at the beginning of the 60's. The body consisted of a platform soil and a carrying body, which no longer was modern, than also in Germany the pontoon building method interspersed itself.

With wishbones, coil springs in front and pendulum swinging axle, semi-trailing arms and coil springs in the back also the chassis was modern, other and larger had still often enough leaf springs.

The 296 ccm engine carried 14.8 HP out with same capacity as the 250er and turned with 4.000 U/min even more slowly. He was installed from 1955 to 1965. The 400 ccm engine (1957 to 1967 available) carried capacity and 5,000 U/min out at the beginning of 20 HP with 395 ccm. With 67x56 mm in relation to drilling and stroke the 250er and 300er-Motoren (both had 58x56 mm) had been increased. The compression remained the same with all engine variants with 1:6.

Sedan (435 kg) like Coupé (480 kg) were leichtgewichte, achieved however because of small engine performance only modest maximum speeds: with 250 ccm 72 (sedan) and/or 84 km/h (Coupé), with 300 ccm 85 and 90 km/h and with 400 ccm 95 and 100 km/h. The Coupé was always somewhat faster, despite more weights. The engines used modest 6 (250er and 300er) or 6.5 litres (400er) on 100 km, with which one nevertheless came with 25 litres capacity of the tank in the engine compartment approximately 240 km far.


http://mclellansautomotive.com/photos/B25477.jpg

http://www.informatik.uni-leipzig.de/~pantec/images/312er-3.html

Welcome to my corner of the world wide web, over here you can find out more about the Wartburg automobile.

My name is Roger Andersson and my hobby is to drive, collect, and repair the ultimate dream-machine named Wartburg.

Well most people don´t know what a Wartburg is, and unfortunately most books about cars doesn´t contain any information about East German cars. So I have decided to share some of my Wartburg knowledge.

Wartburg is an East German car made in Eisenach, the first Wartburg was made 1898 and production started the same year. You could say that the Wartburg car manufacturers had big dreams and high ambitions. Its quite amazing, in DDR they managed to produce both standard cars like the 311 and the 353W and sport cars like the 313.


The name Wartburg is taken from an old middle age castle renowned in German history and legend standing on a steep hill overlooking the town of Eisenach, Thuringia, Ger. The hill was fortified as early as 1080. The landgrave Hermann I of Thuringia (died 1217) rebuilt the castle and made it the seat of a lively court frequented by vagrant poets and musicians. Now 918 years later the castle still stands and in perfect condition.

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It has its unique feeling, there is no car quite like it.
I must say that driving Wartburgs is something you like very much or not at all. Wartburg´s 0.99 liter 2-stroke engine really gives it soul, the engine seems to have a mind of it´s own and it takes skills to be able to bring out maximum performance.

My personal opinion is that driving is no fun if it dosen´t present any challenge.When driving a Wartburg you sometimes get the feeling of being in a race car, there are no unnecessary gimmicks and luxury, the engine runs on high revolutions and inside the car the engine noise gets quite loud, there is no servo so you really get to work when shifting gears and using the breaks, just like a genuine sports car one can feel the road trough every inch of the car.

Wartburg is ideal for driving in the winter, the frontwheel drive and the balance of the car makes it stick like glue to the road.

Originally posted by BucKinBroNcO
suzuki sammuri

seems likle my zuk could run over your pile of bronco crap.......

seems likle my zuk could run over your pile of bronco crap.......


Sure, AFTER you modded the hell out of it. Stock, it's no better than a Tracker. Delusions of grandeur.

a zuk is a zuk is crap just like all the other small 4x4's :goodfinge

the early bronco is a small 4x4............i love early broncos

it amazes me just how many of you guys ohn this site apply to my sig line.
try reading it, take it slow and reread it if you are having trouble making out the words.
just remember what your hooked on phonics teacher told ya.

Hey badass....'to' has two 'o's. Its too. Idiot.

Just ball bustin.

Originally posted by Jaxboro
Lets seeDodge Challenger Turbo 2.2 - You didnt see GM putting a 4 banger in the Camaro did ya? :twak :banghead


Yes, GM did put a 2.5L I4 in a Camara and Firebird.

NASCAR(S)- Because they created a sport fueled by skill-less stupidity
PT Cruiser- America's failed attempt at replicating the new beetle
Rice- shit
Most 80's cars- No style, pure shit
Neon SRT-4- Congratulations buddy, but it's still a f'n neon
FWD "Sports Cars"- Nothing pisses me off more, RWD is for real men

Originally posted by BadassBronco
seems likle my zuk could run over your pile of bronco crap.......

better hope your zuk is weighed down, the weather is windy and it might blow away!:goodfinge ...

Originally posted by HWY TO HELL
better hope your zuk is weighed down, the weather is windy and it might blow away!:goodfinge ...
last i new d44' and d60, and beadlocks on steel wheels weighed alot with 38" Sx's

Originally posted by 19888FORDBRONCO
HYBRIDS
AND SUBARUS (BECAUSE TREEHUGGERS DRIVE THEM)

HAHAHA:lolup :lolup :lolup That must be an Oregon thing. I swear the 2 most common cars I see in ashland are subys and beetles.


My list:

Pontiac Fiero.......famous for spontaneous combustion and one-headlight-up-one headlight-down condition.
Any Jeep. I have one so I have the right to say this. VW beetles are better engineered. Total pile of crap. But then again, mine is an AMC child.
Honda Element. Jesus. Our beer cans and milk jugs return to haunt us.

Pontiac Aztek=Moon Tractor (or Moon Tractor Hotel when properly equipped.
Chebby Avalanche=Cousin of Moon Tractor.

ANY Kia POS and those dawoo tirds floating around too...man I freaking wish I could get away with knocking those truckers off the road!!

wow, over 5 years, rise oh thread rise

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/mrbuick/Threadresur.jpg

wow, over 5 years, rise oh thread rise

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/mrbuick/Threadresur.jpg

:rofl:

At least he used the search!

Mustang II's (Thanks Iacocca for almost killing the Mustang):twak

From what I understand the Mustang II kept the Mustang alive during the energy crisis. A lot of them were sold. I traded my Mustang II for his Bronco. He still has the Mustang II. It's a 302 with a cam 4bbl intake and carb, and I put a 5spd in it. Pretty quick car and fun to drive. Stock though, the V8s only had 130 hp. and a shitty 4spd trans or auto. The first year, 74, the V8 wasn't available. I think the worst years for the Mustangs were early 70's because they were huge, and early 80's because they had that European look.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/mrbuick/Threadresur.jpg

I didn't look at the date on this thread. :)

I didn't see the suzuki sprint turbo, it was such a sh#t box, looked like a yugo, only had three cyl's . my sister had one way back in the early 80's when she was in collage and I raced it with my kx 80 and beat real good

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/mrbuick/Threadresur.jpg

:rofl:

At least he used the search!

What in the Hell was he searching for?:smilie_slap

Wow, this was dead for a while. Now that it's here, it needs to be said. The Honda Element is the ugliest vehicle ever made and I can't understand how anybody would like the style. It looks like something that was designed by a child. I literally want to throw up every time I see one.

The Isuzu Vehicross
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/695158/fullsize/vehicross3.jpg
I worked with a guy who bought one of these. He put on a 40 series flowmaster and still didn't sound as good as a suped up civic. Looks like something ate a Kia Sorento and shitted this out.

The Ford Bronco, been causing me addiction to this sight, food deprivation, sleep loss, sore muscles, and long muddy nights ever since i got it....

The Isuzu Vehicross
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/695158/fullsize/vehicross3.jpg
I worked with a guy who bought one of these. He put on a 40 series flowmaster and still didn't sound as good as a suped up civic. Looks like something ate a Kia Sorento and shitted this out.

I would rock that if I were looking for a new rig :toothless

The Isuzu Vehicross
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/695158/fullsize/vehicross3.jpg
I worked with a guy who bought one of these. He put on a 40 series flowmaster and still didn't sound as good as a suped up civic. Looks like something ate a Kia Sorento and shitted this out.

I would rock that if I were looking for a new rig :toothless

I love the vehicross

I would never own one because it's an achooo-zu, but, they look great!


Surprised no one has put this one in yet.

Toyota Prius.

Jeep Patriot
Jeep Compass
Jeep Commander

Ford Contour
Mercury Mystique
Ford Fiesta

Plymouth Reliant
Dodge Aries
Plymouth TC3
Plymouth Turismo
Plymouth Breeze

Chevrolet Chevette
Chevrolet Citation

Toyota T100

it's neverending....:clavin

Chevrolet Citation

Gotta agree with that one, my dad had one in a 4-spd or 5-spd or whatever it was. Total POS.

the ford aspire, the chevy hht, pt cruiser,

the ford aspire, the chevy hht, pt cruiser,

I had my truck getting warranty work once, and I told the guy I had vacation plans and to please hurry up. I mentioned that if he didn't finish, I would be driving the courtesy car, Ford Aspire to Alberta, about a 14 hour drive. He wasn't pleased about that but oh well. Roughly 5 days later, I call the guy and he interrupts me and says, sorry trucks not ready, enjoy your holiday. I realized after a couple of hours of straight driving, that the seats are made from concrete and is very underpowered.


It offroaded pretty good :toothless despite the low ground clearance and I did save a lot on gas though.

the first generation of hyundais were disposable cars. I've been junking cars for 12 years now and we would get excels in the yard almost everyday. But then again we would get the taurus too.

Chevy Caprise diesel. What a pile of crap!
Taurus from 1985 to 1995.

The Ford Bronco, been causing me addiction to this sight, food deprivation, sleep loss, sore muscles, and long muddy nights ever since i got it....

Man you took my response.. I was thinking the exact same thing when I was reading this.

Well, lets see here's the shortlist out of my Junkyard finds:

Anything Pugeot

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q53/Froggmann/Misc/Junkyard%20Finds/03-09-08_1050.jpg

Again with the AMC (All Makes of Cars)
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q53/Froggmann/Misc/Junkyard%20Finds/73%20Gremlin/d77ffdbc.jpg

Opel GT only because they took a great thing and forked it up:
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q53/Froggmann/Misc/Junkyard%20Finds/73%20Opel%20GT/IMG_0565.jpg

A nice "WTH were they thinking?!?" 82 "Dodge Challenger"
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q53/Froggmann/Misc/Junkyard%20Finds/82%20Dodge%20Challenger/f5d3d49e.jpghttp://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q53/Froggmann/Misc/Junkyard%20Finds/82%20Dodge%20Challenger/d6b1e1a3.jpg

Zuk X-90 Really a "SUV" with a trunk? They were just lucky to have Red Bull buy all their inventory.
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q53/Froggmann/Misc/Junkyard%20Finds/Zuk%20X90/0621081339.jpghttp://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q53/Froggmann/Misc/Junkyard%20Finds/Zuk%20X90/0621081340a.jpg


Other short list notables:

ANYTHING French
SAABs, I mean come on a backwards engine WTF were you guys smoking?
Ford ****edus 60K miles and it's an instant shitbox. Plus one of the farkin things almost ran me over last night.
Ford Contour/Mistake, again sooooo much potential but got filled with so much cost cutting fail.
Yea, the AzteK Funny one, my ex bought one right after we broke up. Makes sense now.
FIAT Do I need to say more?

I had my truck getting warranty work once, and I told the guy I had vacation plans and to please hurry up. I mentioned that if he didn't finish, I would be driving the courtesy car, Ford Aspire to Alberta, about a 14 hour drive. He wasn't pleased about that but oh well. Roughly 5 days later, I call the guy and he interrupts me and says, sorry trucks not ready, enjoy your holiday. I realized after a couple of hours of straight driving, that the seats are made from concrete and is very underpowered.


It offroaded pretty good :toothless despite the low ground clearance and I did save a lot on gas though.

Saying an Aspire is underpowered is giving it to much credit. My granny had one back in the mid 90s. Once she got to old to drive, she'd have me drive her around town in it. I drove that thing pedal to the floor and could still get passed by farm implements on the road:haha

I'll admit, it was a fun little car....just got to be careful about pulling out in front of folks.

If one showed up in my driveway.....I'd drive it.

ford tempo......:barf

anything fabbed up by hemithis or fordman08

anything fabbed up by hemithis or fordman08

:histerica:histerica:histerica:rofl::rofl::rofl: :twotu:

The Expedition replaced the Bronco, not the Explorer. Also, I like the expeditions. Owned 2 and enjoy both. Wouldn't do anything hardcore with them but they are very comfortable on the road. I can't stand the Exploders. Horrible in all styles :barf. I hate anything Saab. I can't stand the Aveo. The UGLIEST car ever made though was the Gremlin. As useless as it may have been it was f***ing ugly. Also, the second generation Pinto station wagon :barf.

Any 90's Chrysler. It seems they all have electrical problems.
Dodge Avenger N/A. They should have kept the Mitsubishi engine instead of the Chrysler-designed POS they put in it.
Neon.

the pontiac vibe,,,gayest vehicle around

holy dead threads but since its reopened
80s flamable escort wagons
the smart car
and for the military guys the entire mtv family

Foreign shit period.
Im 16 and after school i work at a European automotive garage (any imports)
And they're all garbage

Wow, 6 years & 6 pages!

How about a BMW Isetta? Ugliest car ever built. My dad had a garage when I was a kid, & sometimes people paid him with a car. That's how he ended up with one. It had one cylinder. He carried an extra spark plug in case the one in it fouled. It also had only one door, the whole front of the car. Yeah we had a Beemer, but at least it wasn't for long. :doh0715: Does it look familiar? Can you say Urkel?

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1950-1959/1957-BMW-Isetta-300-red-fa-lr.jpg

http://www.diseno-art.com/images/bmw_isetta_open.jpg


And another vote for the Chevy Vega. Aluminum cylinder walls. Good for about 40,000 miles. They were the bic lighters of the automotive world. The only vehicle ever built where no running examples remain today. :toothless
http://www.kitfoster.com/images/2006-7-13_Vega1971AdWeb-Medium.jpg

No one has said it so I will

FORD FIESTA

oh and geo's and any 'zuki, yeah yeah you have one and love it and it can out crawl my blah blah blah. You swap to Toyota axles (which even the 'Yota guys swap out ) and go from one underpowered four banger to another one ( 66 vs.80hp and still no torque ) and low-gear the transfer case and add a cage and all of a sudden you have gods greatest 4x since the original heep, sorry I mean Jeep. If it takes axle swaps, engine swaps, and 6 inches of lift to clear 33's enough to actually wheel and it still sucks I'm sorry but you bring the Fail.

Nissan Cube: one of the ugliest things ever made IMHO
Toyota Prius: its not gonna save the planet so stop acting like it is
Smart car: U-G-L-Y and i dont care how safe they claim to be, crash it into my bronco and see what happens :goodfinge
Ricers: i am tired of hearing them "race" with their fart cans right outside my house
New jeep rubicons: much worse looking than the older body styles and i dont like the 4 door
Sammy's done wrong: they can be great little rigs, ive just seen some poorly executed ones

The Cadillac Catera.My mother gave me hers when her driving days were over.The ONLY thing good about this steaming pile was the interior.They were thrown together by Audi from obsolete parts.I advertised it,but could not sell it to a single mom with a clear conscience.The "target" market{22"} never showed,so I traded it for 400 bucks worth of fishing gear.

My fairlane engine is from a 73 maverick grabber...302 still runs good

I miss my Maverick. had a 76. Big plans for that thing until I got the Bronco.

I want to know who's bright idea the Nissan Cube was.

Ricers: i am tired of hearing them "race" with their fart cans right outside my house

x2. The idiots cob on it everywhere thinking they have a race car, don't they know that 111hp and 3.2lb-ft of torque isn't powerfull. It never ceases to entertain me when I hear one running through the gears, from a distance they sound like they should be hauling ass. Then you see the car driving by at 25mph, the pedal still to the metal.

The Cadillac Catera.My mother gave me hers when her driving days were over.The ONLY thing good about this steaming pile was the interior.They were thrown together by Audi from obsolete parts.I advertised it,but could not sell it to a single mom with a clear conscience.The "target" market{22"} never showed,so I traded it for 400 bucks worth of fishing gear.

I agree with ya there, worked at a Cadillac dealer one time, got to drive one, the only thing nice about it was the driver seat. The skinny pedal on the right did nothing but make the engine louder, sure as hell didn't make the car go faster.

And while we're talking Caddy, the Cadillac Cimmaron - way overpriced Cavalier.

I'm sure they've been mentioned and I don't know anything about the technical aspects of it, but when I think "zero curb appeal" this comes to mind:

http://i47.tinypic.com/2vwyzr9.jpg

Prius
Smart Car
Murano (hit 2 of em in 24hrs)
Suzuki Renos
Toyota Matrix
Acuras of any type (Damn thugs out here call em "AAKKsss"
Maximas (Thugs call em "MY MAX, YO" out here)

Smart car: U-G-L-Y and i dont care how safe they claim to be, crash it into my bronco and see what happens :goodfinge
Whenever I see a smart car, I can't help but think that these two must have the same designer, & the manufacturers have been prepping the market ahead by selling toys. :toothless
http://www.gonomad.com/armchairtravel/uploaded_images/smart-car-737938.jpg http://www.littletikescar.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Little-Tikes-Cozy-Coupe-II-Car.jpg

http://www.gonomad.com/armchairtravel/uploaded_images/smart-car-737938.jpg http://www.littletikescar.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Little-Tikes-Cozy-Coupe-II-Car.jpg

LOL!

porsche boxster i mean really if your gonna buy a porsche get a decent one hell get a damn cayman atleast they look good

any thing that was ever made in the soviet union

k car

i actually dont mind the mustang II it was a decent car to own during the 70's gas crisis my dad had one but traded it to buy his 1980 BKO from teh dealer ship

dont hate on the old school vw bugs i plan on buying a cheap one and turning it into a dune buggy to take to the beach

porsche boxster i mean really if your gonna buy a porsche get a decent one hell get a damn cayman atleast they look good

You do know the Cayman is derived from the Boxster?

Anything with a bowtie in the grill???:toothless

I'm with this guy :thumbup

Along with anything Toyota, Honda, Hyundai.

Chrysler K cars were ridiculous. Who the hell came up with the idea of a minivan? They all suck. Thanks iacocca for that other dog terd of an idea.

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv316/imbakednotfried/colt-vista.jpg

You do know the Cayman is derived from the Boxster?

yes but like i said atleast they look good

MAZDA MIATA....... I cant believe im the first to say it. My dad has one, but the worst part about it is that he really likes it.:twak I am ashamed that he has one. But he does have a fawkin sweet f150 to also, so i guess its ok. :thumbup

MAZDA MIATA....... I cant believe im the first to say it. My dad has one, but the worst part about it is that he really likes it.:twak I am ashamed that he has one. But he does have a fawkin sweet f150 to also, so i guess its ok. :thumbup

LOL that car does make for one of the few tolerable episodes of Yes Dear, where the main dude buys one and thinks it's awesome, then he pulls up to a red light and there's a little chick in the same car next to him.

haha didnt a little girl walk up and tell him her barbi has the same car lol

Mazda Mx-3
toytota tundra stepside
newest model tacoma
nissan hardbody
chevy astro

haha didnt a little girl walk up and tell him her barbi has the same car lol

Yeah or something like that, might have even been playing with one on the curb....LOL when his radio gets stuck on "It's Raining Men". That's probably the only episode of that show I really remember, but that was great. :thumbup

http://www.edmunds.com/pictures/VEHICLE/1993/Geo/10685/1993.geo.storm.4721-396x249.jpg
THE GEO STORM

http://vastate.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/16980-honda-fit-sport.jpg
THE HONDA FIT or SHIT FIT

nissan hardbody

:doh0715:seriously?i've never heard a complaint from a hardbody owner.....had one myself and they are hard to kill.i'd take a nissan over a yota any day.

Wow, 6 years & 6 pages!

How about a BMW Isetta? Ugliest car ever built. My dad had a garage when I was a kid, & sometimes people paid him with a car. That's how he ended up with one. It had one cylinder. He carried an extra spark plug in case the one in it fouled. It also had only one door, the whole front of the car. Yeah we had a Beemer, but at least it wasn't for long. :doh0715: Does it look familiar? Can you say Urkel?

http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-1950-1959/1957-BMW-Isetta-300-red-fa-lr.jpg

http://www.diseno-art.com/images/bmw_isetta_open.jpg


And another vote for the Chevy Vega. Aluminum cylinder walls. Good for about 40,000 miles. They were the bic lighters of the automotive world. The only vehicle ever built where no running examples remain today. :toothless
http://www.kitfoster.com/images/2006-7-13_Vega1971AdWeb-Medium.jpg

You might not like that Isetta, but I bet you'd appreciate the money.

From the Barrett-Jackson auction a week and a half ago.

Lot Number: 74

Auction: SCOTTSDALE 2010
Sale Price: *$47,300.00
Year: 1956
Make: BMW
Model: ISETTA
Style: COUPE


http://highwinds.barrett-jackson.com/items/Fullsize/Cars/81207/81207_Front_3-4_Web.jpg

Yeah, I'd like the money, but just because someone pays $50,000 for a lawnmower that won't cut grass doesn't make it a good car. :toothless

My dad had lots of cool stuff too. Many of them that you'd rather have instead of it today, but since this is the thread about cars that shouldn't have been built, I'll leave them out. :toothless

6 pages later:

http://content.dealerconnection.com/vfs/dealers/08326/97_mercury_mountaineer-1.jpg

and I'm all for self expression but defying fundamental logic just escapes me.. form and function.. or something like that;

http://image.truckinweb.com/f/29141301+w750+st0/0907trweb_161_z+2009_texas_heatwave_truck_show+cus tom_red_chevy_silverado.jpg

:doh0715:seriously?i've never heard a complaint from a hardbody owner.....had one myself and they are hard to kill.i'd take a nissan over a yota any day.

I was just referring to the ugliness, never mentioned reliability :shrug

There's one of these running around here,I put a engine in it SUCKED
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll151/matt-attack89/van.jpg

The wife had to have one of these,put 3 alternators from GM on it.You have to pull the CV axle to change it SUCKED
Not my pic
http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o31/skylark65/P2090022.jpg

There's one of these running around here,I put a engine in it SUCKED
http://i287.photobucket.com/albums/ll151/matt-attack89/van.jpg


At least you could check the oil from the comfort of your drivers seat. :rofl:

I was just referring to the ugliness, never mentioned reliability :shrug

yeah you rite:histerica

Most everything in the last 15 years!

Any 2 wheel drive pickup, and i didnt see RAMBLER anywhere.

Chevy Colorado/Gmc Canyon
Ovalesque Ford Taurus
Any vehicle with a Chrysler 4 Speed automatic FWD transmission

I personally like the Renault R5 Turbo, but the Le Car just sucks.


http://images.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0308_05z+1986_renault_r5_turbo2+front_left_view.jp g


http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/198399/1979-Renault-Le-Car-Magazine-Ad-A-640.jpg

Chevy Colorado/Gmc Canyon


Who the hell thought a 5 cylinder motor would be a good Idea :doh0715:

Who the hell thought a 5 cylinder motor would be a good Idea :doh0715:

I've always wondered why they didn't made a 5 cylinder. I used to think it was because it had to have an even number of cylinders but then I saw a 3 banger.

So what is wrong with it?

the thunderbird supercoupe... well not the car just the motor, i have no idea why ford would think of putting a supercharger and a restrictive exhuast on a 3.8 V6 but ive owned 2 of them and the only way to "fix" them in my experience is to swap a V8 into them

I've always wondered why they didn't made a 5 cylinder. I used to think it was because it had to have an even number of cylinders but then I saw a 3 banger.

So what is wrong with it?

with a uneven amount of cylinders how many companion cylinders do you have? Think back to the 4 stroke engine cylcle and get back to me :thumbup

the thunderbird supercoupe... well not the car just the motor, i have no idea why ford would think of putting a supercharger and a restrictive exhuast on a 3.8 V6 but ive owned 2 of them and the only way to "fix" them in my experience is to swap a V8 into them

I just sold my superbird and I liked it. Got great gas mileage and with the straight pipes and the cold air it could still eat jap traps alive :shrug

http://fullsizebronco.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12929&stc=1&d=1258683479

I just sold my superbird and I liked it. Got great gas mileage and with the straight pipes and the cold air it could still eat jap traps alive :shrug

http://fullsizebronco.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=12929&stc=1&d=1258683479

mine ate up headgaskets like a fat chick at a buffet, i got tired of the problems so i found a 5.0 donor car to grab the motor and wiring out of :thumbup

the rest of the car is great, i love how they look and handle, and their pretty comfy too

mine ate up headgaskets like a fat chick at a buffet, i got tired of the problems so i found a 5.0 donor car to grab the motor and wiring out of :thumbup

the rest of the car is great, i love how they look and handle, and their pretty comfy too

The PO of mine used MLS gaskets when he rebuilt it. :thumbup

Ford Explorer - Basterds replaced the bronco.



:twak what? the explorer was around FIVE years before the bronco was taken out behind the ford barn and shot in the head.... the EXPEDITION replaced the bronco












Personally, the toyota prius should have never been made... thanks to that car, we all have to go green.... what a piece of crap that thing is

dKTOyiKLARk

Don't know what's been covered yet since I'm too fat and lazy to read eight pages.

- any and all Peugeot
- any and all Renault, except the LeCar, which is an AWESOME name for a car.
- any Daewoo POS
- Hummer H2 and H3, what a waste
- AMC Pacer
- Honda Del Sol
- Isuzu I-mark
- Chevrolet chevette, sprint, spectrum, 86-on nova, 97-on malibu
- the remake of the pontiac lemans the little 4 cylinder korean car.
- the new FJ Landcruiser
- the Scion xB only because of all the crappy knockoff's now. One ugly box car is ENOUGH.
- new Beetle
- Subaru Baja, that thing is Gary Busey ugly.

Who the hell thought a 5 cylinder motor would be a good Idea :doh0715:

Audi (older models),
Honda (vigor and 2.5 TL),
and now Government Motors

edit- forgot volvo, thanks Bri Guy5

don't forget about volvo with their 5 cylinders.

with a uneven amount of cylinders how many companion cylinders do you have? Think back to the 4 stroke engine cylcle and get back to me :thumbup

What about the three cylinder motors?
And if it is in line, what does it matter how many cylinders there are?

- any and all Renault, except the LeCar, which is an AWESOME name for a car.

Yes, I drive a LeCar. It's French for... the Car.

Anything with a bowtie in the grill???:toothless

X2 :barf

Yes, I drive a LeCar. It's French for... the Car.

but wouldn't it be Le Voiture? since that's the car in french? Plus the three wheel stud hub is AWESOME!!!!!

it's kind of the pre-starbucks conjunction of multiple languages

What about the three cylinder motors?
And if it is in line, what does it matter how many cylinders there are?

Three cylinder motors are awesome.

Just look at the Geo/Chevy Metro. I think the Sprint or the Spectrum had a 3 cylinder too.

I should shove a 3 cylinder motor onto a golf cart or something.

What about the three cylinder motors?
And if it is in line, what does it matter how many cylinders there are?

Its a balancing issue, thats why they have jackshafts with counter weights to counteract the problem. Still a bad Idea, why not just make a bigger 4 cyl. or a smaller 6 cyl. just like commonsense would dictate :doh0715:

Its a balancing issue, thats why they have jackshafts with counter weights to counteract the problem. Still a bad Idea, why not just make a bigger 4 cyl. or a smaller 6 cyl. just like commonsense would dictate :doh0715:

because mazda invented the biggest turd possible being the 1.8 V6 for US Production MX-3's

Its a balancing issue, thats why they have jackshafts with counter weights to counteract the problem. Still a bad Idea, why not just make a bigger 4 cyl. or a smaller 6 cyl. just like commonsense would dictate :doh0715:

I don't see how it is an issue in an inline motor so my common sense tells me it's possible, do you have a link to explain it?

Three cylinder motors are awesome.

Just look at the Geo/Chevy Metro. I think the Sprint or the Spectrum had a 3 cylinder too.

I should shove a 3 cylinder motor onto a golf cart or something.

Don't snowmobiles have 3 cylinder motors?

The Dodge Caliber the only car I have ever owned that has the ability to eat more fuel than the Bronco and thats including my 5L mercs. Under WOT this thing sucks the gas like no other car or truck I have owned. I hate it Not cool Not fast Should get great gas mileage WRONG!

I don't see how it is an issue in an inline motor so my common sense tells me it's possible, do you have a link to explain it?

sorry no link, had a buddy that had one (colorado) lemon lawed, dumbass went and got a H3 with the same fawkin motor, lemon lawed it within 4 months :doh0715:

Don't snowmobiles have 3 cylinder motors?

Yeah, so answer me this, why is it that a motorcycle with the same relative bore x stroke can rev at 10K and they cant. Try holdin something together with uneven reciprocating mass at high revs. At least the snowmobiles and waverunners can use the excuse that they really didnt have room for another cylinder :popc1:

sorry no link, had a buddy that had one (colorado) lemon lawed, dumbass went and got a H3 with the same fawkin motor, lemon lawed it within 4 months :doh0715:



Yeah, so answer me this, why is it that a motorcycle with the same relative bore x stroke can rev at 10K and they cant. Try holdin something together with uneven reciprocating mass at high revs. At least the snowmobiles and waverunners can use the excuse that they really didnt have room for another cylinder :popc1:

I would have to say because it is a two stroke engine and doesn't have to worry about valves opening and closing. You wont get RPMs from a 4 stroke..would you?
If you have 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, whatever cylinders in a line, you will always have one piston firing at the top. They balance it by timing which cylinder fires next and when. Of course this is just my understanding of an internal combustion motor and my understanding of objects interacting with each other, so it's just a guess, but unless I see something to support what you are saying I think it makes sense. Your explaination by saying he "lemon lawed" just doesn't explain anything what so ever.

Mazda Mx-3
chevy astro
We had 2 of those while I was growing up, and they were awesome. I learned to drive in one, and it was great. It went through the snow awesome, and everything was built much more heavy-duty then you see on vans today.
Chevy Colorado/Gmc Canyon


I have a Colorado now, and it has been nothing but great. No problems whatsoever. It has great power, decent gas mileage, and it has a lot of room for its size. I would take it over any other midsize truck anyday. The only complaint that I can think of is a lack of aftermarket support, but that isn't a build problem at all.

I would have to say because it is a two stroke engine and doesn't have to worry about valves opening and closing. You wont get RPMs from a 4 stroke..would you?
If you have 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, whatever cylinders in a line, you will always have one piston firing at the top. They balance it by timing which cylinder fires next and when. Of course this is just my understanding of an internal combustion motor and my understanding of objects interacting with each other, so it's just a guess, but unless I see something to support what you are saying I think it makes sense. Your explaination by saying he "lemon lawed" just doesn't explain anything what so ever.

Motorcycle engines (my comparison) are 4 stroke (street bike)! I cant explain it any better. Just mull it over, why do engine builders spend so much time meticulously grinding internals to weight match rods, pistons,etc.?

They add a jackshaft because there is a inbalance, why create a motor that is defective from the start? BTW he lemon lawed it for engine vibes the first time and he had engine vibes and a metallic clank in the H3.

the corvair

You take that back! Those were cool little death traps.




PT Cruiser

because mazda invented the biggest turd possible being the 1.8 V6 for US Production MX-3's

there's such thing as a 1.8L v6? thats bad-ass.. i want one.