View Full Version : Shadofax(TheJuice) move back to CO, question on property
Shadofax 01-20-2007, 03:42 AM Hi All,
This is non-4x4 related just so you know up front.
I have a question about colorado land and your homes.
I know all about front range soils, yada yada, I once was studying toward a degree in Geology, thats not my question.;)
I've requested and received a copy of the contract the new home builder would present me for signing next week when I arrive. My job involves contracts frequently so although I am not a lawyer, I am very attuned to terms and conditions within contracts.
So, my question is, or I should say, my questions are:
1) In the north Denver/Boulder area there appears to be a massive amount of coal mining that occured during the early 1900's. I've read much of the state is this way. But specifically I've seen maps showing over 160 old mines running SW to NE from broomfield area, through Lafayette, and Erie. Are you folks aware of this, and what is called "Subsidence" in your contracts???? Subsidence would be the possible occurence of your property sinking due to these mines being near or under your property and ground movement. What are your thoughts on this?:popc1:
2) Can any of you recall in your contracts not only having the above, and the fact they ask that you acknowledge, and "waiver" any rights, but also that you have no mineral rights, and that you also understand that oil and gas interests do have certain rights in/around/under your properties (keeping the language simple here)?
To keep this in perspective I have done research, and at least what I know is that the boulder to Erie and beyond area was filled with mines. We all know the mountains are filled with mines, for things well beyond simple coal. What about other front range areas? I don't recall this verbiage in my contract for the Parker home. The Erie/Lafayette area was coal mined, though the coal was of lesser quality, it flaked easily and was not like hard nugget-type coals of back east, so it was mined during the early 1900's and farmers did this as well during winter while crops were a non-issue. It's died obviously due to the grade of coal, though there are fairly sizable veins found beneath.
3) Final question, we were looking at home builder DR Horton, but instead are now about to sign a contract with Morrison. Any feedback from Home owners of these builders, good or bad?:popc1:
Larston 01-20-2007, 09:47 AM I've been studying this area for almost 30 years and have never heard of any coal mining, or mining of any type, in the Denver/Boulder area. There have been a few (well, a lot) rock quarries, and a ton of land fill sites, but no mining. The only coal mining I'm aware of in Colorado is down near the Walsenberg area and some open pit mines near Walden. The Walden mines have all been closed and reclaimed, I believe the Walsenberg mines may still be producing.
Landfill subsidence has been a major issue in the Denver area. At one time, Denver consisted of about three times as many small towns as it does now, and they all had trash pits, sometimes several of them. Many of these pits have been lost and forgotten over time so you may need to do some digging to find out where they were. Another MAJOR issue, which it sounds like you're aware of, is expansive soils. Until they break ground and do a soil analysis, you don't know if it's going to affect you.
Virtually no one in Colorado owns mineral rights to their own property, water rights either. In essence, you own to the dirt under the grass, some oil company owns it from there down, and if you have flowing water above or below ground, it's owned by an irrigation company. (Be damn sure to check for irrigation easements across the property, the irrigation companies will not vacate them and they have the right to develop them as they see fit, even if it means tearing down your house.)
The last house I built only had the standard mineral rights waivers and warnings about expansive soils and subsidence which often go hand in hand. Denver is a special case with he numerous undocumented land fills. I have never heard of any sink hole stories along the Front Range. I'd say that if it looks like your property is more than likely untouched range land or old agricultural land, you're probably safe.
As for builders, I don't hear much about any outside the Ft. Collins area, can't help there. Check the Association of Home Builders and the BBB. Do what you can to get references and look at a couple of their houses. There are a lot of bad builders around here, but there are some truly outstanding ones, too.
Good luck with your construction, it can be trying :banghead :thumbup
I've been studying this area for almost 30 years and have never heard of any coal mining, or mining of any type, in the Denver/Boulder area.
There is something going on up that way because I have a train that runs by my house. It comes from up by Denver somewhere (never followed it) and goes south. Runs about 10 times a day with cars full of coal.
Brian
Shadofax 01-20-2007, 01:03 PM I don't think coal is going on anymore Revt, but I'm sure there could be some mining going on, just not widespread.
I'll have to school you then Larry, here ya go:
http://www.cityoflafayette.com/Page.asp?NavID=710
You can also visit Lafayette, the town has a little mining museum. Doing a google search you can find other maps and such of the 160 mines that were in and around this area just north of Denver.
Thanks for the heads up on the irrigation easement.
Shadofax 01-20-2007, 01:04 PM I don't think coal is going on anymore Revt, but I'm sure there could be some mining going on, just not widespread.
I'll have to school you then Larry, here ya go:
http://www.cityoflafayette.com/Page.asp?NavID=710
You can also visit Lafayette, the town has a little mining museum. Doing a google search you can find other maps and such of the 160 mines that were in and around this area just north of Denver.
:shocked Holy double post batman.:shocked site is really slow this AM, must have double clicked between swearing at it.
Gunner69 01-20-2007, 01:08 PM I don't think coal is going on anymore Revt, but I'm sure there could be some mining going on, just not widespread.
I'll have to school you then Larry, here ya go:
http://www.cityoflafayette.com/Page.asp?NavID=710
You can also visit Lafayette, the town has a little mining museum. Doing a google search you can find other maps and such of the 160 mines that were in and around this area just north of Denver.
I'd disaggree with this cause I see the same train twice a day going south through the springs and if those cars aren't full of coal I'll eat the headliner out of my bronco...
Shadofax 01-20-2007, 02:37 PM I'd disaggree with this cause I see the same train twice a day going south through the springs and if those cars aren't full of coal I'll eat the headliner out of my bronco...
I didn't say the trains weren't full of coal.
I'm saying it's very doubtful they are coming from mines in the areas I am describing. Maybe there is some large scale mining of coal going on, just not sure where up north, perhaps in the mountains? In reading about the area of Lafayette, just north of Denver, they shut all that down even though there is still coal there. It's not of a quality that seems to be of interest....flaky and falls apart.
fishinnutt 01-20-2007, 03:25 PM Are you guys positive that the trains full of coal aren't coming from Wyoming. I know we have regular coal train traffic out of the coal mines in Wyoming.
11jdsummerfield 01-21-2007, 01:50 AM Are you guys positive that the trains full of coal aren't coming from Wyoming. I know we have regular coal train traffic out of the coal mines in Wyoming.
Yep, most of the coal we use on the front range comes from Wyoming.
As far as abandoned mines, depending on how deep they are they might not pose a problem, like if they're a couple hundred feet down I would imagine if they collapsed the surface wouldn't move. I'm not sure how far down they had to dig back then so I guess I'm no help at all.
Are you guys positive that the trains full of coal aren't coming from Wyoming. I know we have regular coal train traffic out of the coal mines in Wyoming.
Could be, I just see them come down from the North...Didn't know there was anything past Denver!! LOL
RevT
Larston 01-22-2007, 11:27 PM I don't think coal is going on anymore Revt, but I'm sure there could be some mining going on, just not widespread.
I'll have to school you then Larry, here ya go:
http://www.cityoflafayette.com/Page.asp?NavID=710
You can also visit Lafayette, the town has a little mining museum. Doing a google search you can find other maps and such of the 160 mines that were in and around this area just north of Denver.
Thanks for the heads up on the irrigation easement.
Thanks for the link. In all the reading I've done about the Front Range, I've never seen that before :scratchhe Guess it kinda makes sense that there would be coal mines around with as much oil as we have here and the way the geology twists all over the place.
I live right on the tracks on Hwy 85 about 30 miles south of Cheyenne. Yes, the big coal trains do come from Wyoming. And the ones that come through here aren't the real big ones like you'll see heading into Nebraska and South Dakota.
The irrigation thing can be a pain. I know of one person who inadvertently built his garage over an buried irrigation pipeline and ended up tearing it down. You don't hear of too many problems, it's just one of those headaches that can be easily avoided.
Shadofax 01-23-2007, 10:25 AM Thanks for the link. In all the reading I've done about the Front Range, I've never seen that before :scratchhe Guess it kinda makes sense that there would be coal mines around with as much oil as we have here and the way the geology twists all over the place.
I live right on the tracks on Hwy 85 about 30 miles south of Cheyenne. Yes, the big coal trains do come from Wyoming. And the ones that come through here aren't the real big ones like you'll see heading into Nebraska and South Dakota.
The irrigation thing can be a pain. I know of one person who inadvertently built his garage over an buried irrigation pipeline and ended up tearing it down. You don't hear of too many problems, it's just one of those headaches that can be easily avoided.
Well, I don't see the situation above re: irrigation and garage in my scenario since the builder is handling this lot and the whole subdivision, so there won't be any inadvertent issues, but I am going to chat with them about "easements" in general since the seller reserves this right during and after closing. I want to know when/how they might see this being needed. I believe it's mainly meant for a situation such as this:
They build house "A" and finish it, peeps move in. They begin work on neighboring house "B" and at times workers may cross the yard of house A or whatever as they are working on house B. Peeps in house A get all bent and threaten Seller re: staying off their property.
coloranger 01-23-2007, 05:23 PM Cant speak for the area you are moving to but in C Springs we have had some issues up in the rockrimmon area (north end) of subsidence due to old mines. Guess the builder added that clause not that long ago, since it isn't really documented well on where the mines actaullly are.
Shadofax 01-23-2007, 06:37 PM Cant speak for the area you are moving to but in C Springs we have had some issues up in the rockrimmon area (north end) of subsidence due to old mines. Guess the builder added that clause not that long ago, since it isn't really documented well on where the mines actaullly are.
Zachtly, I do plan to visit Erie town hall about a specific mine, but I just don't know how documented it will be on exact location, and as 11jdsummerfield mentioned, Depth of mine underground.
Larston 01-23-2007, 09:00 PM The easements that remain after construction are there for utility access. In general, most lots will have an easement across the back for phone, power, cable, etc. You will have wording in your deed or some other document that says you can't build there, plant large trees, etc. The purpose is to allow them to make repairs if needed. Similarly, although you generally own land to the middle of the street, the city or other government entity will have an easement that extends 10 feet or so inside the curb for water, sewer, curb and gutter, sidewalk, and so on.
And don't assume that just because the power company has an easement on your lot that they actually buried the cables there. The cable and the phone companies are even worse. That's partly why utility locating services are so busy :wacko
Dangling_Dave 02-05-2007, 02:18 AM I used to have a house in SW Denver Metro off of a road called Coal Mine (near funplex) and yes there are old abandoned coal mines on the west side of the metro area. And over by my house they used to collapse from time to time. We never had a problem right in our area but some neighborhoods around us did.
Come to think of it on Hwy 7 just west of I-25 there is a memorial to a coal mine accident.
Glad you are moving back Shadowfax, when is the move-in date?
dc
Shadofax 02-05-2007, 02:22 AM I used to have a house in SW Denver Metro off of a road called Coal Mine (near funplex) and yes there are old abandoned coal mines on the west side of the metro area. And over by my house they used to collapse from time to time. We never had a problem right in our area but some neighborhoods around us did.
Glad you are moving back Shadowfax, when is the move-in date?
dc
Hey Dave.:thumbup
April 20th or so, at least that is around the time I set sail with Shadofax with trailer in tow over to Colorado. The house won't be ready until Aug. or so. I've got to link up with you, blown, larston, and some others when I get there. What say ye lately with master Keith? Still keep in touch?
EDIT:I was there last weekend, contract signed on the house, and my fiance's house is up for sale. Hey, they have a new liquour store up there we all get a laugh at....good/gigantic store, and it's called Daveco liquors.
double edit: yes, the coal mine stuff is fact. so much so my property is indeed over Lehigh Mine, an abandoned coal mine. I went and chatted with the Erie town community development folks about it. I still was not able to determine any depth whatever portion of this mine is below my property, I was able to view the underground extent, and it was quite the mine. Affecting quite an area. Bottom line is town of erie is investing in several community buildings over the same mine, and they OK'd permits for the subdivision, so I'm OK with it.
Dangling_Dave 02-05-2007, 02:33 AM Davco Liquors, Love it! Wish I had thought about that.
I still keep tabs on Keith and Nathan. Keith is busy as heck right now with a change in careers and Nathan just moved up to SLC about a year ago. I have not wheeled since last April, Nathan and I spent a few days in Moab and I tore up my rig pretty bad. I blew the sector shaft in half on Moab Rim and tweaked out my T-Case on Clifhanger. I finally got a rebuidable 1356 but have not had a chance to rebuild it. I started working for an AG company about a year ago and spent most of the fall and early winter in Wyoming and Nebraska.
Lets get a M&G started for April, I am in, I bet we can get crackhead and some of the other guys to show up as well.
dc
Hey Dave.:thumbup
April 20th or so, at least that is around the time I set sail with Shadofax with trailer in tow over to Colorado. The house won't be ready until Aug. or so. I've got to link up with you, blown, larston, and some others when I get there. What say ye lately with master Keith? Still keep in touch?
EDIT:I was there last weekend, contract signed on the house, and my fiance's house is up for sale. Hey, they have a new liquour store up there we all get a laugh at....good/gigantic store, and it's called Daveco liquors.
Shadofax 02-05-2007, 02:44 AM Davco Liquors, Love it! Wish I had thought about that.
I still keep tabs on Keith and Nathan. Keith is busy as heck right now with a change in careers and Nathan just moved up to SLC about a year ago. I have not wheeled since last April, Nathan and I spent a few days in Moab and I tore up my rig pretty bad. I blew the sector shaft in half on Moab Rim and tweaked out my T-Case on Clifhanger. I finally got a rebuidable 1356 but have not had a chance to rebuild it. I started working for an AG company about a year ago and spent most of the fall and early winter in Wyoming and Nebraska.
Lets get a M&G started for April, I am in, I bet we can get crackhead and some of the other guys to show up as well.
dc
Sounds good. Are you watching this site or other way to get you (send me a PM?)????
By the way, good to hear from you again. Check in more often bud!!!:rockon I think you are a fair distance south of where I will be, but I will help where I can, and look forward to finally meeting! It's kinda like BigNorm, I've been wanting to meet up with him for about 6 years now if you can believe that.
Shadofax 02-05-2007, 04:32 AM Here are a few pics of the new homestead:
Again, this is in Erie, CO (little north and west of Denver):
This is the view from the lot (since it's a new home construction), looking West-SouthWest:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/481254/original/111_1199.jpg
It's a premium lot and so further home construction will be limited/further off since an open space begins where the big oak is.
Direct West view to the front range, lucky again since the next house to our west will be a ranch (not yet started):
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/481255/original/112_1201.jpg
stepping into the model:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/481256/original/img_0193.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/481257/original/img_0197.jpg
again this is a model, so the stuff inside is not to our liking, but the layout sure is:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/481258/original/img_0198.jpg
The house is 3,052 square feet plus a basement and a 3 car garage with 8' doors. The house is probably more than the 2 of us + 2 doggies need, but hey we did an option on the master bedroom upstairs that makes it about 1/2 the whole upstairs, fully a monster master bedroom, bath, and closet, and leaving 1 very large guest room with tiled bathroom, plus 1 other bedroom and a central upstrairs bath (so 3 bed, 3 1/2 bath). It's all going to be tiled for flooring instead of hardwood (entrys, kitchen, family, upstairs bathrooms), and will have granite countertops and fam gas fireplace plus master fireplace. Best of all it will also have 230v in the gay-rage and basement for my welding and her pottery.
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/481253/original/denver_ellingwood_a.jpg
Kitchen Island area is actually 8' long so it's great for us, liking to cook and host parties. The cabients won't be dark like this, as they will be maple:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/481262/fullsize/111_1192.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/481261/original/111_1193.jpg
Dangling_Dave 02-05-2007, 08:48 AM I live on the north end of town in Arvada. Where are you guys building?
Oh I just see the part about Eire, that's not so far away. I have thought about moving up there as well.
I will shoot you a PM later today.
dc
Just checked in here again and glad things are progressing for your move!:beer
I'd like to meet you and more of the Colorado folks, so a meet in great should be in the works!
11jdsummerfield 02-06-2007, 02:06 AM Just checked in here again and glad things are progressing for your move!:beer
I'd like to meet you and more of the Colorado folks, so a meet in great should be in the works!
I vote Monument in May.
I vote Monument in May.
Castlerock has a most righteous brewpub just off I25!
DvlRacer 02-06-2007, 03:56 PM Damn, that's going to be a nice house :thumbup
Shadofax 02-06-2007, 06:41 PM Damn, that's going to be a nice house :thumbup
yep, it's going to be pretty sweet:thumbup now we just have to wait 6 months for it.
Brewpub meet and greats always sound good to me.:beer
Castlerock, well, maybe, isn't there a broncohut store or something there as well?
Larston 02-06-2007, 11:24 PM Castlerock is too far south for me, I'm almost in Cheyenne! I'll catch one further north.
Dangling_Dave 02-07-2007, 12:28 AM Hmmm, castle rock is too far south and Cheyenne is too far north. Shadowfax will be in Erie, Crackhead is in Brighton, ZoZo in Broomfield and I am in Arvada. gotta be somewhere on the north end of town that would work. Let me ponder this for a while, too bad the AB brewery is so far north...
dc
Castlerock is too far south for me, I'm almost in Cheyenne! I'll catch one further north.
I could get up that way. Maybe we could do a little run at that time of year rather just a M&G. Doesn't have to be difficult, but scenic would be cool!
Hey how about a house warming. I'll volunteer the new house! Heh, heh, heh...........
davesanrn 02-13-2007, 01:32 PM There is something going on up that way because I have a train that runs by my house. It comes from up by Denver somewhere (never followed it) and goes south. Runs about 10 times a day with cars full of coal.
Brian
there is a lot of coal going north and south from wyoming via burlington northern Santa Fe RR.
Like dave said Im just south of you on highway 287 in broomfield/westminster.
A run would be cool. A local scenic run that I can think of is like kingston peak. Or maybe even a run up carnage/lefthand.
Shadofax 02-18-2007, 12:22 PM I could get up that way. Maybe we could do a little run at that time of year rather just a M&G. Doesn't have to be difficult, but scenic would be cool!
Hey how about a house warming. I'll volunteer the new house! Heh, heh, heh...........
This could be real interesting.....We've been laughing (fiance and I) since we found out we basically will have 2 sets of neighbors....1 house right to the west of ours, a ranch style home, we don't know too much about them, and 1 house that shares this little cul-de-sac thingy and supposedly those folks like to throw "fondu parties"....matter of fact it's the husband that supposedly loves this, and they have some super duper fondu fountain or something...so I bet he'll get along great with me, I can invite him over for some welding/wrenching some time, and I'm sure he'd be totally into all the big broncos that would fill up the cul-de-sac.:rockon :beer
Shadofax 07-22-2007, 04:16 PM Some updates on the new homestead, it's getting close now (Aug. 31 close):
We have not sold our current house. So that will be putting the brakes on anything I do until it sells. having 2 house payments would suck, but we'll have to deal with it should it happen. The new house, we are getting so psyched since it's in the finishing stages now, where all the real eye candy happens:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/543725/fullsize/113_1354.jpg
They just put the curved handrail and iron ballusters in yesterday, but I don't have a pic of that yet:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/543719/fullsize/113_1344.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/543717/fullsize/113_1342.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/543718/fullsize/113_1343.jpg
entryway detail:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/543720/fullsize/113_1349.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/543721/fullsize/113_1350.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/543726/fullsize/113_1359.jpg
master bathroom:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/543724/fullsize/113_1352.jpg
There is still much to do, and more tile, granite and marble going in , but it's getting there.
I can't wait to pull Shadofax into the garage for the first time. Gonna have tons of room to work. oh yea, guess I need some garage pics next time. The did just pour the driveway concrete, I have a seperate post on that related to concrete curing. Anyway, thought ya might be interested.
Bud, your house is moving faster than my rebuild! Too much company this summer and the loss of my brother in law. I got some done this week end and am gettng closer to completion.
The house looks great!
Damn!, It is just too hot for me to work outside past noon.
Shadofax 07-22-2007, 07:30 PM Bud, your house is moving faster than my rebuild! Too much company this summer and the loss of my brother in law. I got some done this week end and am gettng closer to completion.
The house looks great!
Damn!, It is just too hot for me to work outside past noon.
I know, just been relaxing today, real hot out. I've basically done nothing on the bronco the last 4 months except basic maintainence. I had a ton of projects with our current house in Erie to get all the little things fixed, me being anal. This market is terrible for sellers right now though. too many homes on the market, everyone dumping the price and not many buyers. there are even lots of foreclosures adding to it all. sucks. and this current house is super nice too. Oh well. I tell you we had 2 showings this weekend (which I was hoping to maybe meet up with a few folks as posted in another thread), and we're just hoping one of those showings gets to an offer. I'm basically a house maid. I have vacuumed this house as much as 4 times in a 6 day period. Not to mention the front/rear lawns look like a golf course (don't ask about the water bill). Think I'll go have another beer.:beer
I am enjoying Colorado though. We did get a nasty storm about a week ago though, blew through in the evening and dumped some gravel size hail, not enough to hurt the truck though. I need my garage.
Oh yea, don't buy a softtop if you don't have a garage. a whole season or two of this sun and my top would not be worth much. I've gone through a 1/2 bottle of aerospace 303 in the last 6 weeks to try and keep it protected with all the sun it's getting.
You wont like your soft top in the winter either. The window's get real fragile. I should know. I have busted mine and my dad's windows. LEt's get that M-n-G goin. Im down.
Shadofax 07-22-2007, 09:49 PM You wont like your soft top in the winter either. The window's get real fragile. I should know. I have busted mine and my dad's windows. LEt's get that M-n-G goin. Im down.
true, you do have to be careful with them in winter when real cold. Not sure how I would bust one, the trick is to leave them alone in winter.
but I'm not saying I don't like my softtop in summer right now. I'm saying the UV of the sun is hard on it without a garage. Same goes for winter, cept it's the cold, ice an snow. can't let snow accumulate on the top. but again, it's not a biggy once I'm in the new house with 8' garage doors. I would put the hardtop back on if I did not have a garage to house the bronco in.
meet n greet: so what is the thought for now.....trail meet n greet (I'm trying to find a weekend I can meet with Larston for some light wheeling) or do we just want to meet somewhere in the denver area first?
I think we need to try and lay down who is interested, get a list going, and where each of us are (think Larry is the farthest north). think I'll start a seperate thread with appropriate title to attract anyone else local and interested. Once we know locations we can try for something semi-central for those certain they will come.
86bronco64 07-23-2007, 01:37 AM what kind of a trail? something that someone stock could do, or more difficult?
Shadofax 07-23-2007, 09:49 AM what kind of a trail? something that someone stock could do, or more difficult?
Well, as a first run, I'd prefer something on the easier side, and certainly we would not setup hard core right off the bat.
Zoso started a thread wanting to see who all might be interested in a run up a trail that seems to be a bit more on the challenging side based on ratings and feedback of those that have run it....I have not but by the looks I would say it's not for stock broncos. likely would need at least a little lift, good 33's and preferably 1 locker or winch.
86bronco64 07-26-2007, 08:47 PM alright. more reason to get a lift. =)
wileec 07-27-2007, 02:20 PM Well, as a first run, I'd prefer something on the easier side, and certainly we would not setup hard core right off the bat.
Zoso started a thread wanting to see who all might be interested in a run up a trail that seems to be a bit more on the challenging side based on ratings and feedback of those that have run it....I have not but by the looks I would say it's not for stock broncos. likely would need at least a little lift, good 33's and preferably 1 locker or winch.
I would be up for any ride to help meet more Bronco folks here in Erie/ norht Denver. Have done a few with some Jeep folks they were great folks but I just did not fit in.
stan the man 07-29-2007, 08:02 AM Shado, the house is looking fabulous.
Shadofax 07-29-2007, 11:56 AM Shado, the house is looking fabulous.
Thanks Stan. I have more pics, but am kinda waiting for more progress. It's the fun time now since all the interior goodies are going in, they've graded the property and put most of the exterior stonework up.
Wileec, Are you here in Erie?
It's gonna be hard for me to do any trail runs for a short while since I can't get away on weekends and can't afford to have the bronco down for anything. We're still showing and trying to sell the current house, and we have closing of the new house at the end of August, so we're in move mode now as well.
But if you or anyone are nearby and want to hookup somewhere for some drinks, I'm game. You can usually see me tooling around the erie, lafayette, louisville, maybe Boulder, lomo areas. You can definitely spot me at the new Daveco too. My fav place to go.:beer:chili:
wileec 07-31-2007, 02:51 PM Yea I am in Vista Ridge. Talked to you briefly at the Baloon festival.
Shadofax 07-31-2007, 04:51 PM Yea I am in Vista Ridge. Talked to you briefly at the Baloon festival.
Yep, I remember. I was in a bit of a hurry since we had one of our freinds kids that wanted to go for a ride in the Bronco, otherwise I would have chatted more. The fiance doesn't quite get the whole bronco thing, but she's beginning to.
I have not seen your rig riding around though. I know I would not miss your custom top if you still have that.
Did you see the other post Zoso started about Wheeler Trail, any interest? I want to go, it's just a matter of seeing what is scheduled, and then I may have an issue with house showings.
Lemme know if you'd like to meet up at the CCC (Colorado Coal Company) sometime for some drinks. Happy hour they've got some pretty good wings for .50 ea.
And once the house closing is done, I will have garage space again, and room for projects/welding again.:chili:
wileec 08-01-2007, 10:41 AM He stays in the corrall most of the time like the 30+MPG of the honda. Also unless the kids are getting wet the top is useally folded up in the back. Wheeler sounds like a good time if they do it on the 18th I will really try. Shoot just realized I have to work, maybe, that Saturday. May try and set up a Bill Mooore Red Elephant run for the 19th will have to see.
Shadofax 09-08-2007, 12:40 AM Just wanted to update 1 more time as we are now moved in (somewhat) and for me it's interesting to look back at the pics I posted of the snow, the empty lot, tree with no leaves, and the model house compared to how we finished ours. So here are a few final pics for anyone interested. Again this is in the Erie, CO. area:
Ceilings are 9' so it's a hike to the second floor, looking down from the top of the spiral staircase:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/561115/original/113_1395.jpg
Master Retreat looking into the master bedroom:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/561116/original/113_1396.jpg
Looking into master bath:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/561117/original/113_1397.jpg
Master bath door looking back toward master retreat:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/561118/original/113_1398.jpg
Can you tell I love the Master Bedroom? I'll have to get more pics of the retreat area view of the mountains, not spectacular, but should remain unobstructed forever at this point. Pics as usual make space difficult to discern, but if it doesn't look like it, the master is apx. 35' long x 16' wide, not including the bath and the massive closet.
Top of staircase at the master bedroom door looking down:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/561119/original/113_1399.jpg
Kitchen, overlooking the island with granite countertops/maple cabinets. Still need to select cabinet door hardware for the final touch. This is again a massive room going right into the family room:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/561120/original/113_1400.jpg
Shodofax is happy in his stable with 8' doors:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/561121/original/114_1401.jpg
Front of house:
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/561122/original/114_1402.jpg
http://www.supermotors.net/getfile/561123/original/114_1403.jpg
bronc_17113 09-08-2007, 12:52 AM congrats man so when u servin the beer lol
Shadofax 09-12-2007, 05:37 PM congrats man so when u servin the beer lol
Thanks. :thumbup
I already served up for Wileec, where were you? :beer
We can do another local get together if you want, I'm always up for more beer.:chili:
wileec 09-13-2007, 10:27 AM Looks real nice. Congrats on feeling almost done. It has been 3 years and i am still almost done. lol
Looks like I am next up on the beer parade we need to set up a time. Or you just need a house warming with a heard of Broncos out front. lol
bronc_17113 09-13-2007, 06:43 PM name the tima and place lol
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