View Full Version : Summit Filter Relocation
BamaBronc 11-14-2003, 12:24 AM Hey guys and dolls, has anyone used the oil filter relocation kit from Summit? It's their brand name. Also, is a dual setup REALLY necessary? I mean with the cost of the extra filter (I'll be using the K&N) and would assume an extra qt of oil and the additional cost the dual kit itself. Am I splitting hairs here or what? Thanks for the help.
Blaze 11-14-2003, 02:18 AM This is too wierd!! I just got the holiday Summits today and actualy wrote down the part number to order that kit tommorow...so I'm curious to hear what people have to say on this. I had the remote setup on another rig I had and like that alot, so I'm gonna go remote, is the double any better for the buck?? Good question, Jim!!:beer
Fireguy50 11-14-2003, 02:21 AM Personally I think the only good thing about a remote filter is the possible cooling effects from the filter being away from the block.
Blaze 11-14-2003, 07:07 AM I like it cause it's easier to get to. What I need to know is and I think this is what Jim is asking also (If not sorry to hijack your thread) are two filters better than one, enough to justify the extra bucks??:shrug
SMOOTH 11-14-2003, 08:31 AM I've considered it as well, another advantage I thought I could get with relocating it was if I wanted to install an oil cooler, oil pressure sensor, or oil temp sensor, it would be easier to do. Ryan, correct me if I'm wrong.
Dustball 11-14-2003, 03:43 PM If you're gonna install a remote filter kit, do NOT use the supplied rubber hose/hose clamps that come with the kit. Do it right and use hydraulic hoses with the pre-made fittings. It's not worth the risk of having a hose come off a barbed fitting and losing all your oil.
BamaBronc 11-15-2003, 01:51 AM Blaze, you're on target with my question. Also the Summit kit was the least expensive kit of what I saw and am curious 'bout the quality. My primary reason for the remote is filter change and secondly the additional cooling aspects. So which is it, one or two lumps? :shrug
Blaze 11-15-2003, 03:36 AM No-one realy answered what was asked, so I think I'm gonna go with two, Jim...and I think I'm going with TD performance, it's onlt 8 bucks more and the kit justs "looks" better in the pics...:shrug
axaviere 11-15-2003, 07:22 AM for what its worth, i was going to use a dual filter kit plus leave the stock one there too. i have the factory set up that lowers the stock filter & has fittings on it to route to a cooler or whatever you want. im not using K&N oil filters on my used 460 so its not that expensive. i think 3 is overkill but what the hey. i also added a single filter inline with my tranny cooler. all of which are hose clamped on. now i did get all my lines from a hydraulic shop & had them crimp on the inverted flare fitting that hooks to the cooler itself. my single filter was 9.99 on ebay. the thread in general discussion tells how to find the ebay seller.
ok heres my take on dual filters. get your K&N if you want to. do you know the micron rating? make your K&N second and a cheaper filter first. that way the cheaper filter will get all the big crap first, then the expensive filter will last longer. i have a water system and i added a simple particle filter and carbon filter inline before the R/O system and its still going where last time the rust clogged the systems filters quickly.
BamaBronc 11-15-2003, 10:34 PM Axaviere, your idea on the dual filter setup is excellent! I have the same type setup on my well, I don't know why I didn't think of it for the Bronc.:banghead
OK, so there you are; dual setup and I'm gonna go with TransDapt. I agree with you Blaze it "looks" better, plus I talked with my rep from Keystone and he said it was one of the better ones to get.
axaviere 11-15-2003, 10:43 PM i have my moments. funny part is the ones i wish there were no people around to witness are usually in a crowd & the ones i need a witness im usually with the dogs. they know im brilliant.
BamaBronc 11-15-2003, 10:47 PM :lolup I hear ya brau.
Blaze 11-16-2003, 01:11 AM Originally posted by axaviere
i have my moments. funny part is the ones i wish there were no people around to witness are usually in a crowd & the ones i need a witness im usually with the dogs. they know im brilliant.
I feel yer pain!:beer
BamaBronc 11-16-2003, 11:22 PM So where's the best location for the remote filter?:shrug
axaviere 11-17-2003, 12:03 AM after you get it, put a couple of filters on it & test fit it. its gott be somewhere you can get to easily. some place where you can handle the filter after you take it off & not drip oil everywhere. i was thinking it may be easier if mounted lower. you might still have to crawl under the rig, but hey you gotta drain the oil anyway. try a few spots. for my single tranny mount, i had bought 2 - 4 feet leads with crimped fittings & then another 6 feet of line to figure it all out. i got a cooler to consider too. does the kit come with line? dont be afraid to buy more.
BamaBronc 11-19-2003, 10:10 PM Hey, I received my TD Performance kit today and it comes with pre-made hoses with fittings.:thumbup The hoses are rated at 300psi. I read through the instructions and they are most comprehensive. I'll let you know this wkend how it goes.
Blaze 11-19-2003, 10:31 PM Cool!:thumbup I still need to order mine, I waited because I keep finding other stuff to order with it...:toothless
BamaBronc 11-19-2003, 10:39 PM Know whatcha mean Blaze. It seems there are a million things to buy with only 50 bucks in your pocket. Maybe I won't eat next week. Ah bump it! Where's my credit card?
Blaze 11-19-2003, 10:43 PM :lolup Zactly what I mean!:thumbup
Stokes 11-21-2003, 06:31 PM ok its just killing me not to say this, but why pay 12bucks for a K&N filter when you can get a WIX or NAPA gold filter for under 5 dallars. i know many mechanics that will stand by the WIX/gold filter. in my opinon they flow just as good also (according to my oil press gauge.
BamaBronc 11-21-2003, 10:44 PM OK Stoked you spoke your mind, do you feel better? Well let me tell you this; er...umm...umm...I bought a Wix filter today.:D I dug around and read all of the threads in this forum and read some industry and independent studies and came to the same conclusion you did. I guess I was blinded by the lights, ya know? That is one of the great things 'bout this forum; other people's input and experience. Thanks for the advice. I'll send you the six bucks I saved by buying the Wix.:thumbup
BamaBronc 11-24-2003, 12:04 AM OK the filter relocation task is complete. And guess what, NO LEAKS! The hardest part of the installation was deciding where to put it. I was hoping that I would have a digital camera to take pics of the install but Target was out of what I'm gonna get. (Had to get a raincheck) The biggest thing with a location is the hoses are 30" long. If I would've had 42" hoses I would have mounted it on the right frame rail. So I made a bracket, mounted that to the outside of the left frame rail (used existing holes) and mounted the remote filter to it. I know this will be hard to picture but it's in the left wheel well. Filter removal is super easy and it's high enough on the rail as not to come into contact with the radius arm at full compression. The back-spacing on my wheels insures no contact between the tire and filter. I did have to trim the well liner just a little. If anyone is considering a remote filter, I strongly recommend the TransDapt Performance kit.
Stokes 11-24-2003, 01:53 AM get some pics! im cerious to see how it turned out.
axaviere 11-24-2003, 07:06 PM i want to put stuff in the wheel well too. but see i am afraid i will get a rock thrown at it from my tire & there goes all my oil. lets see pics. or a crude drawing maybe?
BamaBronc 11-24-2003, 11:46 PM I'll take pics asap. If I don't get a camera real soon, I'll try to bum one again. As far as F.O.D (foreign object damage) goes, I thought of making a shield for it.
irwin 11-26-2003, 10:27 AM bought the tdi three years ago from summit never had a promblem with it
BamaBronc 11-27-2003, 01:16 AM I look forward to the same type of service from mine.
miesk5 12-05-2003, 10:11 AM yo, good job!
sorry to hijack, but had to + this recent experience.
Wix..I used Wix for a long time but had a bad oil filter recently; the Wix anti-drain back valve went bad and I had a ticking noise (lifters area) upon cold eng. start-up.
I strayed but am back w/Motor Craft for sure.
And here are 2 remotes by J and bb with diff locations (radiator and passenger side areas) :
http://www.superford.org/registry/vehicles/detail.php?id=1076&s=7677#content
http://mybigbronco.superford.org/registry/vehicles/showmedia.php?id=76289
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