Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow:D Got my motorswap pretty much completted so if figure its time to start plannin a winter run. Any takers? Recommendations on date?

Snow + Paragon = :wacko

But that's why we love you Steve. I might be game without the snow part, I haven't put a dime into the bronco except to change a bad headlight in 2 monthes so I am jonesing to do something soon. How about 12/25?? good date?

I'll go, but not in the snow. I do need tow hooks first though.

:stupid thats the day i sit on my ass n play video games 18hrs strait in my underoo's. I figure the snow'd make it interesting to say the least. Snow or not, i'm just buggin to head back up there n break some parts with my new bigblock. Maybe middle of january:shrug

At least when we go through the Mud I wont have that pesky overheating problem in January.

I don't do anything on 12/25, adn I know I wont have to work so I figured I would toss it out there. If we get snow, we should just go for a trailride together around Bristol, or Bensalem before the plows come and ruin all the fun

I have a ski trip mid-jan. I would have to wait till feb, due to work not letting have off two weekend days in a row.

I need some new tires, a rim, and an inspection for my 90. The oil pressure is alittle low too, but other than that its sitting, ready to wheel.

Originally posted by Accessory Man
If we get snow, we should just go for a trailride together around Bristol, or Bensalem before the plows come and ruin all the fun

i was thinking the same thing.

I like going to the area strip clubs when it snows, making sure the girls have a ride home, or a nice warm wet place to stay if their home is to far away.

:D

u guys are awful talkative today, where have ya been for the past 6months:goodfinge anyway, i would like everybody to be able to come, not just me kristy will his dad n kev.:D

I definatley will make it this time unless my trucks blow up, or get stolen:toothless

I just wanna put some tow hooks on them just in case.

I'm at work right now till 8, so Im bored cause nothing is really going on. Thats why Im so talkative:goodfinge

Originally posted by Accessory Man
I like going to the area strip clubs when it snows, making sure the girls have a ride home, or a nice warm wet place to stay if their home is to far away.

:D

I think you want the warm wet place to stay:D

i'm always game for a ride as long as my as my money wants to play to. as for snow we could probabaly have a shit load of fun in that play area thing back behind the second staging ground.

Thats if it snows when we go anyway. I would probably only stay on flat ground anyway. Visions of sliding offf that dirt bridge comes to mind.

None of us have lockers anyway, right:shrug

by then hopefully:D

I want to go this time. Hopefully I'll have my SAS done by then

Sounds good to me, as much as I'd like to go 12/25 I think the wife would shoot me. It looks like we're going to Disneyworld in January, so January is up in the air until we get the date confirmed.

Where can we legally wheel in Bristol or Bensalem?

on the streets before they plow them:D
then its to the mall parking lots

Mall parking lots? That's funny, watch the "Neshaminy Mall Security" force chase you in a 2wd S-10. That's cruel, but funny.

I think they have liberty's now:shrug
I go to the Franklin Mills Mall for that, there security won't bother you.

I could be down for a trip!:D

i really havent decided if i want to run paragon this winter. I would love to go there in the snow, but im really just not sure if i should. Plus, i doubt id be able to do a trip there till after new years anyway.

Im really not sure what im gonna do at this point. i wanna go wheeling, but at the same time, it looks like i need to do my rear-main seal now, and that takes priority. And working on a muddy truck sucks.

Its a moral dilemna ive been fighting for the last week or so!:toothless

Is paragon even open in the snow??

I know Franklin mills Parking lot is open in the snow:D

Depending on the amount of snow they will close certain trails, but unless theres so much snow you cant get into the park, theyre open! I missed a great opportunity last winter to go on a snow run, too :cry
i hear Green trails can turn into Blue trails if theres enough snow :D :D

I for one would certainly not want to run trails any worse than Rock Swamp when there's snow on the ground, thats gotta get pretty ugly!

it would be interesting to say the least.

thats why i wanna go, when the green's turn to blue's. i wanna be the first one to tear up the fresh powder:thumbup

Originally posted by drexelsteve
:stupid thats the day i sit on my ass n play video games 18hrs strait in my underoo's.

:histerica :histerica :histerica

Aside from everything else, I can't believe you said underoo's ..... i don't know why that's so funny, but for some reason, i think the laugh i'd get from seeing that would last me about a week .....

Otherwise, I think after the New Year would be a good idea anyway. We can begin recovering from Xmas and the weather may be a bit more like winter. This will give everyone a chance to tune up or did any projects they need to get done before the run.

Does anybody else get three-day weekends in January (MLK Day) and February (President's Day)? Those would be ideal!

Fixed it for ya Kallure:thumbup

After the new year would be better for me, after January would be even better. It looks like we're going to Disneywolrd in January not Februrary. We just have to wait for confirmation on the dates, first choice was 1/15-1/19.

I agree with Bnk, after Jan would be better for me also.
So can we all agree on Feb?

Thanks for fixing that post, Gators!

I agree on February - give me time to recover from Christmas. Santa is collecting welfare as it this year! :D

ok, sometime in feb. But we're gonna have to get together sometime before then to at least :beer

i was actually thinking earlier today that we could do a pseudo-xmas party somewhere around here - you know all the stuff that makes the season - beer, chicken wings and boobies - 'cause i was thinking hooters or something.

we could just chill and hang out without worrying about trees falling or parts breaking!!! :toothless

Originally posted by Kallure
we could just chill and hang out without worrying about parts breaking!!! :toothless Ahh, to live the dream! :toothless


Maybe ill get together with ya'll to chill sometime soon, but i got other problems i *should* attend to before i go out on a big wheelin trip again. Im down for a ride in feb, though.

chillin with you guys and drinkin beers sounds good to me.

BEER GOOD, WINGS GOOD, BOOBIES even better. yeah feb. would probably be the best seeing as how xmas is gonna break the bank this year. btw christy i think seeing steve in his "underoos" would give me nightmares.

Originally posted by Leonard
i think seeing steve in his "underoos" would give me nightmares.

I think it would be funny, you should wheel like that:lolup

I don't know about that, but I wouldnt mind seeing Kallure in underoos. Wheeling or otherwise.

been there, done that:thumbup

you need to go to a chinese massage parlor:goodfinge
remind never to take my girl wheelin with me:uhoh3

Originally posted by drexelsteve
been there, done that:thumbup

pfffffft, not lately! :D

Originally posted by Kallure
pfffffft, not lately! :D

That's not what you said at my house when we did the engine swap.:D

Originally posted by bnkrtstk
That's not what you said at my house when we did the engine swap.:D

That was over a week ago -- last I checked, that wasn't "lately"

:histerica

Originally posted by Kallure
That was over a week ago -- last I checked, that wasn't "lately"

:histerica

It is when you're old and married!:toothless

So are we still doing the Beer-Boobies-and-Wings night?? :-)

I was going to suggest that our next trip be over the weekend of Feb 14 & 15 because those of us who are lucky should have President's Day off on Monday. But Valentine's Day is also that weekend and I don't know how many girlfriends/wives would be cool with a trip then. I wouldn't mind - Steve would get off easy. LOL Nothing says I love you like the growl of an engine and a mud pit.

Sounds good to me, I'm not off President's Day, but that's no big deal.

I dunno if i have Presidents day off, but i could always just request it off.
Ill have to see if i can get my g/f to go this time. If so, im in. Otherwise, ill never hear the end of it.

haha i don't have to worry about that, sometimes its good to be single. a beer wings and boobies night sounds good may have to be after the holiday though for me at least.

I dunno if i have Presidents day off, but i could always just request it off.
Ill have to see if i can get my g/f to go this time. If so, im in. Otherwise, ill never hear the end of it.
girlfriend?since when?

girlfriend?since when?
Um, almost 5 years ago? :thumbup

i had no idea. Then again u probably told me a few times but i'm a little goofy :thumbup

so can we set a date or what. can't wait to make u guys look bad :goodfinge

so can we set a date or what. can't wait to make u guys look bad :goodfinge

I can do that all on my own. :thumbup

:thumbup

I can do that all on my own. :thumbup

so can i :toothless
end of feb, 21-22 or 28-29 :shrug

i like feb 21-22 :shrug

that works, staying at a cheap motel this time or we gonna see if red ridge is open??

that works, staying at a cheap motel this time or we gonna see if red ridge is open??

i like that weekend too - and i definitely like a cheap motel or red ridge, depending on if it's open and how cold it is. but one of you has to sneak into the marriott and steal that mattress for me!!! :toothless that's the least they could do after all the shit that happened ..... of course, the ground is just fine too

oh, the marriott did end up refunding me my money, so that makes things better. if i have $200 bucks laying around one time when we go up there, i wouldn't mind staying there again - i'd just pay cash this time.

oh, the marriott did end up refunding me my money, so that makes things better.
did they? thats awsome. Unless anyone has any objections...feb 21-22 it is :thumbup thats roughly 2 months to get ready. anybody got any mods planned? i plan on mini-spools front n rear and 35's by then :thumbup

That date is fimne with me. Doesn't matter where we stay. If it's Red Ridge I'm bringing a 31 foot camper trailer. Wifey won't camp in the winter. Besides I like a hot clean shower after wheeling. The Ramada in Hazleton was reasonable.

I'll have a l/s rear in by then, and possibly, I might even spool the pumpkin I'm taking out and switch as needed.

did they? thats awsome.

Well, they didn't refund all the money for the stay but they sent me a letter of apology/explanation and the fees for the bounced checks caused by their mistake.

Red Ridge doesn't open until May, it looks like. There's another campground listed on Paragon's site but it doesn't open until March, I think. While the Fairfield was nice, it was a little too pricey for the budget. I think if we stuck with the Ramada or one of the "motels" and not hotels listed on Paragon's site we'd be okay.

Of course, Steve could always bring his camper and we can park it in a grocery store lot and all pile in there!! :toothless

Of course, Steve could always bring his camper and we can park it in a grocery store lot and all pile in there!! :toothless

All I know is I get the queen sized bed, and the kids each get one of the 4 bunks in the back, that leave two bunks and "couch" for the rest of you to fight over.

All I know is I get the queen sized bed, and the kids each get one of the 4 bunks in the back, that leave two bunks and "couch" for the rest of you to fight over.

I call a bunk!!!

Actually, I really don't care where I sleep as long as it's clean - thus ruling out the back of my Steve's truck

wherever we stay all i have to say is let it be cheap ah worse comes to worse i'll throw the back seat back in it pretty comfortable, as far as truck work hopefully, crossing all fingers and toes and whatever else will cross, my engine, um a 9" out back with 3.50;s and a set of 3.55's in the front, thats about it unless i can get my dad to buyild me a set of sliders at his work.

Since most rooms have two beds, why don't you guys double up on a room. Steve and Kristy, just hang the ' Do Not Disturb' sign up for a few minutes :toothless .

Or make will hold the camera :goodfinge

I usually stay at the Fairfield Inn, its the same exit as the Mariott.
If you tell em youll be at paragon, its like 45 bucks.


2 months? i guess that give me time to do the 460, 1ton swap, 44s, 5.37s and dual lockers :goodfinge
Actually, i dont think theres anything i need to do to prepare for the trip. Other than keep the truck running, that is :p

This winter/spring has already been allocated for Project:Zuk. Once thats done, the bronco goes under the knife again. My next set of tires will not be smaller than 38" :D

as far as truck work hopefully, crossing all fingers and toes and whatever else will cross, my engine, um a 9" out back with 3.50;s and a set of 3.55's in the front, thats about it unless i can get my dad to buyild me a set of sliders at his work.
Just make a set of ghetto-sliders like i did :toothless
Of course, i have no idea how they work, as last time the rocks werent big enough for me to hit them :goodfinge

Since most rooms have two beds, why don't you guys double up on a room. Steve and Kristy, just hang the ' Do Not Disturb' sign up for a few minutes :toothless .

Or make will hold the camera :goodfinge

A few minutes?? How many time do you want the poor guy to do it a dozen????

BTW back of my truck is always clean, and warm
:toothless

A few minutes?? How many time do you want the poor guy to do it a dozen????

BTW back of my truck is always clean, and warm
:toothless
:lolup i swear is that all u think about??? so will u be attending this time?

:lolup i swear is that all u think about??? so will u be attending this time?

Yes it is, and I am sure gonna try to make this one, but I have alot of stuff to get done yet

You better! That goes for you too, Gators!
I havent gone 'wheelin with either of you yet.

First off ... hello everyone - I'm Doug ... just found my way over here today, from the board at Offroad.com. I'm not exactly a bronco guy - but my 85 F150 is similar enough.

I wanted to share this with you - It was posted today on the Yahoo board of a local Jeep club I've been looking into. It just may be pertinant information!


"Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to pass the word along that Paragon is closing for the season
due to the weather.

We are open by appointment only for groups and we will gladly open for clubs
to have rides or come and play. Please send us an e-mail or give us a call
if you want to come up.

Please keep in mind, we are by appointment only, so if you make a
reservation, please remember that we are opening the park for you or your
club. If you need to cancel, please do so as soon as possible.

Please pass this information on to your club or anyone you feel would like
to visit the park during the winter season.

We wish you all the best of the holiday season."

You better! That goes for you too, Gators!
I havent gone 'wheelin with either of you yet.

I have seen you wheel............. You're NUTZ.

I love it by the way, but mine is my daily driver, my only vehicle, and the love of my life (If I could fit it in my bed I would be arrested for sure) So I like to stick to the easy stuff

just find a dark spot in the ally matt,

thanks for the info doug i'll look in to it to find out whats going on.

First off ... hello everyone - I'm Doug ... just found my way over here today, from the board at Offroad.com. I'm not exactly a bronco guy - but my 85 F150 is similar enough.

I wanted to share this with you - It was posted today on the Yahoo board of a local Jeep club I've been looking into. It just may be pertinant information!


"Hi Everyone,

Just wanted to pass the word along that Paragon is closing for the season
due to the weather.

We are open by appointment only for groups and we will gladly open for clubs
to have rides or come and play. Please send us an e-mail or give us a call
if you want to come up.

Please keep in mind, we are by appointment only, so if you make a
reservation, please remember that we are opening the park for you or your
club. If you need to cancel, please do so as soon as possible.

Please pass this information on to your club or anyone you feel would like
to visit the park during the winter season.

We wish you all the best of the holiday season."


Yeah, appt. only. I read that on the Paragon forums. So that means we can set up a ride, call in advance, and theyll open the park for us :thumbup

just find a dark spot in the ally matt,

thanks for the info doug i'll look in to it to find out whats going on.

A dark ally is fine for a woman, my Bronco is special, it deserves the honeymoon sweet!

I have seen you wheel............. You're NUTZ.Why does everyone keep saying that? :toothless
mine is my daily driver, my only vehicle, and the love of my life (If I could fit it in my bed I would be arrested for sure) So I like to stick to the easy stuff
You just described the exact same situation with my bronco :D

you guys are sick

Why does everyone keep saying that?
i remember the first time i saw u wheelin when u hit that hill full throttle n blew out that tire. wish i had that on video. remember somebody sayin "if u don't hit that big one on the right you'll be ok" :histerica

I might of said that, BUT I was more impressed at the fact that he and his boys had the spare on in less time then it took the air to come out of the other tire. The man has a pit crew! :thumbup

I might of said that, BUT I was more impressed at the fact that he and his boys had the spare on in less time then it took the air to come out of the other tire. The man has a pit crew! :thumbup
ha, he hadno regard for the pit crew though. there were numerous times on the last paragon trip where i had to pick up his photographer cause he got "left behind" :toothless rep, your brother took some pretty dam good pic's though :thumbup

i remember the first time i saw u wheelin when u hit that hill full throttle n blew out that tire. wish i had that on video. remember somebody sayin "if u don't hit that big one on the right you'll be ok" :histericaMan, i wish i heard that before i took off....i never saw it till after the tire was flat :bangheadI might of said that, BUT I was more impressed at the fact that he and his boys had the spare on in less time then it took the air to come out of the other tire. The man has a pit crew! :thumbupLol, i dunno about pit crew, but its always easier when you have a whole crew of people you already know when youre out on the trail :thumbup
there were numerous times on the last paragon trip where i had to pick up his photographer cause he got "left behind" :toothless rep, your brother took some pretty dam good pic's though :thumbup
My bro spent half the time w/ me, and the other half of the time in the green zuk. he didnt care, he was havin a blast just bein out there :thumbup

and thats all that matters right :thumbup so i guess we're gonna need a headcount so we can make a reservation. :shrug

Hey Rep, from the sounds of it I'm gonna have a blast wheeling with you. :thumbup

Hey Rep, from the sounds of it I'm gonna have a blast wheeling with you. :thumbup
Lets just say......Its always an adventure :toothless

Actually, this trip should be interesting, cuz yesterday i convinced my g/f to go, and she's never been to Paragon before.
Sooo, if you hear any screams while im driving, just ignore em :toothless


Steve, yeah, we'll need a headcount, but i sure we wont need a def. # till we get closer to Feb. But thus far we have........
(driving)

Me
drexelsteve
bnkrtstk
leonard
(& father?)
accessory man
gators (?)


Any particular trails anyone wants to run this weekend?
As usual, ill run anything from Green1 to Black1 :D

i vote for Muddy Pipeline, i still havent been able to run it yet, and it sounds cool.
other than that....um....uh.....i dunno. Anything cool :D

rockswamp, puddle of mud, cherokee ridge, still haven't done muddy pipeline yet either. may have another truck coming too, a guy from work thinks he can wheel. :thumbup

Oooh, I ran Trail25 (un-named) that sunday when we all got split up. It was cool. A little harder than i remembered, but still a sweet trail. There was a really badass trail i ran that day (twice actualy, since we made a wrong turn :toothless), im tryin to remember the name of it. it was twisty and muddy, and, well, cool :thumbup

EDIT: it was Lucky Trail. Its conveniently located near Muddy Pipeline :D

Actually, this trip should be interesting, cuz yesterday i convinced my g/f to go, and she's never been to Paragon before.


Woohoo, another girl!!!!!! :rockon

def. wanna hit muddy pipeline, never got down there last trip, anything else sounds fair game, 80% sure my dads gonna come along. right now gotta fix my truck feltlike the wheel was gonna fall off today.

Woohoo, another girl!!!!!! :rockon

I can bring lots of girls just have to pay them by the hour
:thumbup

I can bring lots of girls just have to pay them by the hour
:thumbup
:hump

Yea, Im in. I'll to get my buddy to go again.
Don't know if I wanna roll on the crazy trails that you guys are talking about unless I can get my 90 inspected in time. I dont mind the scratches, just don't want dents :brownbag

they add character, besides none of the trails mentioned so far are really all that bad pretty easy.

Don't know if I wanna roll on the crazy trails that you guys are talking about unless I can get my 90 inspected in time. I dont mind the scratches, just don't want dents :brownbag

the only place you gotta worry about dents is probably cherokee ridge simply because it's awful tight. but i think there was one time we went down it with nothing but a slight "reshaping" of part of the grill above the headlight because we slid down the hill and into a tree!!!!!!!!

of course, since i'm just riding, i don't care where we go.

no crazy pay by the hour girls though - they're not in the budget

Muddy pipeline? Use that in a sentence.

I realized it was a gay bar when someone asked me if they could run the muddy pipeline, and there was no truck in sight.

Muddy pipeline? Use that in a sentence.

I realized it was a gay bar when someone asked me if they could run the muddy pipeline, and there was no truck in sight.
:uke: eww

Muddy pipeline? Use that in a sentence.

I realized it was a gay bar when someone asked me if they could run the muddy pipeline, and there was no truck in sight.

:histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica :histerica

no crazy pay by the hour girls though - they're not in the budget

There always in mine!
:santa

There always in mine!
:santa
No wonder you still dont have that 4" lift :duh :D

No wonder you still dont have that 4" lift :duh :D

Yup, I have 4" but it isnt on the Bronco
:toothless

Yup, I have 4" :toothless

No wonder you have to pay for it, if that's all you got. :goodfinge


And don't try that it's 4 inches .........................from the ground crap either.

can we get back to the subject at hand. this whole thread has gone gay.

can we get back to the subject at hand. this whole thread has gone gay.

:cry :cry

No wonder you have to pay for it, if that's all you got. :goodfinge


And don't try that it's 4 inches .........................from the ground crap either.

I wouldn't dare, 3 1/2" is inside, like a Turtle, I have to rub my niples to take a piss. AND I don't have to pay for, I choose too, is soo much better then having to watch one get old
:toothless

Ok, so weve got

Me
drexelsteve
bnkrtstk
leonard
(& father)
accessory man
& gators


7 trucks. Not too shabby! :thumbup

Everyone needs to confirm if theyre definitely going or not (coughacessorymancough) so i can get in touch with kyle and get him to open the park for us.
Have we decided where we're gonna stay yet?

hey guys, i am interested in this trip, but as i've never really wheeled before, and my truck is fairly stock, i am just afraid i would hold you guys back. i also have a buddy with a slightly lifted f150 who says he might be interested also, but didn't know if this is just a FSB thing. let me know what you think. we would be coming from long island.

Jackhart, my truck is mostly stock too, but it's not my DD. As far as your buddy with the F-150, bring him.

the more the merrier. It'll be some easy wheelin, hopefully we'll have some snow on the ground to make it more interesting. I wouldn't worry, a lot of these guys are running stock or close to stock so they don't wanna fubar their rigs either. me, i'm running 100% stock. hope to see ya there :thumbup

we always seem to pick up spare people everytime we go so i don't see what makes this ride any different. the more people, the bigger of a party.

i'll be along to make the movie because some very special person got me a digital camcorder for christmas ..... now we'll have real time footage of our trip! :chili:

me, i'm running 100% stock.


yeah if you ignore the 4" lift 33's (maybe 35"s or locker if you ever make up your mind) the 460 swap, yeah completely stock.

yeah if you ignore the 4" lift 33's (maybe 35"s or locker if you ever make up your mind) the 460 swap, yeah completely stock.lol, i was thinking the same thing!

I had a stock 99 f150 out with me on my very first trip to paragon, and he did ok. Im a better spotter now, too :toothless
And Will's dad (sorry, i cant remember his name now) did awesome out there in his stock f250.
Yank your swaybars (if only for the trail ride), and youll have no problem.

If youre willing to wheel with us, then we're willing to get ya through the park! Me and drexel probably have the most modified trucks, everyone else is close to stock, so dont worry about holding us back much. And im sure everyone will agree that doing trail repairs in the freezing cold aint fun, so sticking to easier stuff is perfectly fine with me!
Besides, id like to be able to go to the park, 'wheel, and then leave without breaking anything for once! :toothless



we always seem to pick up spare people everytime we go so i don't see what makes this ride any different. the more people, the bigger of a party.

i'll be along to make the movie because some very special person got me a digital camcorder for christmas ..... now we'll have real time footage of our trip! :chili: ooOOooh.......video!!!!! Now my stupidity on the trails can be captured on film for all to-- wait a minute!!! :p
But seriously....thats awesome! We have this antiquated video camera that uses those half-hour long mini-tapes, but it doesnt even shoot in color anymore. Its kinda sad, its like its going blind!


new list:
Me
drexelsteve
bnkrtstk
leonard
(& father)
accessory man
gators
jackhart +1

9 trucks :rockon

You guys beat me to it. Yeah Steve your truck is stock :wacko

Maybe 10 trucks a buddy wants to come with his 77 Bronco.

I agree with the trail repairs in the cold theory, but I'm still bringing a spare starter and alternator.

Video is awesome, I have a few videos of past wheeling trips, I watch them when I get the wheeling itch and can't get out to go.

this is excellent. i'm really looking forward to it. ok, now for some quick questions...can you confirm the exact dates again? what about the hotel, did you decide on somewhere yet?

since this is my first off road adventure, maybe you guys can also make me a "short list" of basic items to buy/bring for the trail...i know you probably have stuff just in case, but i would like to be prepared myself, to the extent that i can afford to, at least. maybe along the lines of "must have" items and then on to "would be nice to have..."

as far as sway bars go, do i need quick disconnects? also i was planning on getting a portable air compressor (santa somehow forgot that...), maybe i should just go ahead and get that now??

you think it will be a problem that i don't have d rings or other means for fastening a tow strap yet? my new bumper/winch mount is being fabbed with them right now but probably won't be ready by our trip. nor will my winch. :cry

thanks for the advice.

You need at least one recovery point, do you have a rear receiver? Go get a tow hook (or two) and bolt it to the frame, they are only $10 or so at Walmart or Pep Boys. Drill the holes and you're done. A full size spare tire is a must, Paragon won't let you wheel w/o one. Basic hand tools, if you're truck has any normal quirks, bring what you would need to fix it, hence my spare alternator and starter.A good recovery strap, extra fluids, WARM clothes. CB. That's all I can think of for now....anyone else?

ooOOooh.......video!!!!! Now my stupidity on the trails can be captured on film for all to-- wait a minute!!! :p
But seriously....thats awesome! We have this antiquated video camera that uses those half-hour long mini-tapes, but it doesnt even shoot in color anymore. Its kinda sad, its like its going blind!

that's what'll make it fun - there are tons of things we'd wish we had a video for *cough* will's gas tank *cough* kev's flat tire climbing that hil *cough* just to mention a few. this camera, though, has all sorts of gizmos and gadgets including nightvision (for the partying going on after we leave the park! :toothless ), 10x optical - 120x digital zoom, touch panel LCD, ability to record in .mpg format right onto the memory stick as well as all sorts of fancy filming and shot modes and it takes still pictures as well. Santa Steve was very good to me this year! :santa

Jackhart, as far as stuff you need -
Check out Paragon's website, specifically these pages:
Self-Guided Trail Rides Guidelines (http://www.paragonap.com/adventure_selfguided.htm)
Park Guidelines (http://www.paragonap.com/explore_rules.htm)

That'll give you a good basis at to what the park requires that you have and what you generally need.

As far as everything else goes, general lessons say that spare parts are always good. Definitely a CB or handheld. Battery tie down is required in Paragon. Other truck/parts suggestions can be left up to these boys who know a little more than I do.

General trip stuff: quarters to air back up! :toothless, warm clothes but nothing too absorbent in case there's mud and water to play in, beer :thumbup or, we hit the local beer distributor when we get there.

Hotel? Hmm, we should probably decide. I like the Fairfield, but I don't have the 200 bucks to shell out again. Something fairly reasonable, even on the cheaper side. Paragon has a list of "motels" - anybody know anything about one or two of them?

this is excellent. i'm really looking forward to it. ok, now for some quick questions...can you confirm the exact dates again? what about the hotel, did you decide on somewhere yet?

Feb 21-22. We usually head out there the night before (so the the 20th) so ya dont have to drive a couple hours to sit in the truck and 'wheel all day.

since this is my first off road adventure, maybe you guys can also make me a "short list" of basic items to buy/bring for the trail...
you need at least one recovery point to get into the park. Trailer hitch is fine for the rear. i would recommend adding hooks to the front if your truck, ive used mine several times since theyve been installed, either to pull myself out, or others.
fullsize spare (within 2" of tires on truck) is an absolute requirement.
CB's are awesome, i think everyone should have one in their truck, even if it doesnt go offroad. :toothless
I carry a spare alt. with me, and have a spare starter ill probably bring as well. I recommend carrying spare ujoints atleast for the rear axle, as it would suck to break one and have to drive off the trail and outta the park in FWD.

Between all of us, we have planty of snatch straps, hilifts, and even a winch, so thats covered, but having an extra strap never hurts.
Paragon requires you carry a garbage bag with you to remove garbage of course, but also any contaminated soil (ie. dirt you spilled oil on). We dont want these guys to get hit w/ a big fine by the EPA!
you dont have to remove your swaybars if ya dont want to, but it will help keep your tires on the ground when climbin over the rocks. Theyre fairly simple to remove (6 bolts up front, 2 bolts + 2 ubolts in the rear), so we could probably pull them in Paragon's lot if need be. No one makes a quick-disconnect kit for them.

General trip stuff: quarters to air back up! :toothless
Yeah! youll need a few bucks in quarters, unless you wanna ride down the freeway with only like 18lbs of air in your tires :toothless
Bring a tire gauge if ya wanna air-down, itll take all day if we all have to share one or two.
Hotel? Hmm, we should probably decide. I like the Fairfield, but I don't have the 200 bucks to shell out again. Something fairly reasonable, even on the cheaper side. Paragon has a list of "motels" - anybody know anything about one or two of them? Ive stayed at the Forrest Hill Inn two or three times. Two beds, a tv, and a bathroom. it simple, but i think its only like $40/night if ya tell em youre gonna be @ Paragon. Oh, and free coffee/donuts in the office in the a.m. for all you caffeine addicts :D

Ive stayed at the Forrest Hill Inn two or three times. Two beds, a tv, and a bathroom. it simple, but i think its only like $40/night if ya tell em youre gonna be @ Paragon. Oh, and free coffee/donuts in the office in the a.m. for all you caffeine addicts :D

I like simple - simple and cheap - as long as it's clean - no bugs or other friendly visitors (these include the living as well as the transmittable dieseases that may be left on linens) right?

Are we all gonna try and gather in the same hotel/motel like last time? That'd be cool.

Do we have a definite confirmation from everyone who's coming? Do we need a certain number to get them to open the park?

Nah, the place is actually pretty nice.
If everyone wants to stay there ill see if i can put a bunch on hold, so that we can all get rooms nearby.....makes it easier to get back to your room while drunk if youre staying nextdoor :toothless

Well, we only need 3 trucks to roam the park, so.....
Well, actually, i dunno about that, but 9 is definitely more than enough. if everyone is certain they can go (theyll want a head count when i contact them), ill get in touch and set it up with them later this week/weekend.

3 more possibles from PJB, 2 79's and an F-150. :thumbup

Nah, the place is actually pretty nice.
If everyone wants to stay there ill see if i can put a bunch on hold, so that we can all get rooms nearby.....makes it easier to get back to your room while drunk if youre staying nextdoor :toothless

Well, we only need 3 trucks to roam the park, so.....
Well, actually, i dunno about that, but 9 is definitely more than enough. if everyone is certain they can go (theyll want a head count when i contact them), ill get in touch and set it up with them later this week/weekend.

Why don't those of you that are going solo double up, save some coin?

this camera, though, has all sorts of gizmos and gadgets including nightvision (for the partying going on after we leave the park! :toothless ), 10x optical - 120x digital zoom, touch panel LCD, ability to record in .mpg format right onto the memory stick as well as all sorts of fancy filming and shot modes and it takes still pictures as well.

i'm confused just listening to the description.

Kev, forest hill inn, probably asked this already but anyway, is that the one right at the turn off to get on 93?

Yeah. Its across the street from the Mariott.



So whatre we up to now? Like 12 trucks? :rockon

as usual it'll probably end up being me, u , n will :goodfinge

as usual it'll probably end up being me, u , n will :goodfinge


I'll be there biatch! :goodfinge

some guy i work with says that he wants to come. but he's married n his wife never lets him outa the house so we'll see. we'll put him down as a maybe. :thumbup

as usual it'll probably end up being me, u , n will :goodfinge
:goodfinge

:goodfinge
what, u actually coming this time :beer

maybe he got a new alarm clock for christmas

maybe he got a new alarm clock for christmas
:santa

Steve, did you tell anyone over at Twisted Wheelers? Or is this a no Heep event?

nope, i forgot. don't really get over there much but i guess we ought to invite em. :thumbup

nope, i forgot. don't really get over there much but i guess we ought to invite em. :thumbup


Just did.

i was gonna bring that up to,

what, u actually coming this time :beer
As long as the truck is still running and im alive :toothless

no excuses you have 2 trucks and as good as i can remember the only reason ones down is because its not inspected.

no excuses you have 2 trucks and as good as i can remember the only reason ones down is because its not inspected.

And that's an EASY enough fix (Wink, Wink)
:brownbag

OK, as long as im alive ill be there.
I may have a few more trucks come with me. My buddy just bought a heep and is interested and a few guys he works with have heeps. One other has a lifted fullsize blazer. Only problem is they are cops and may not have that weekend off, we'll see.

Only problem is they are cops and may not have that weekend off, we'll see.

Great, bring the cops along! If anything illegal happens, I wasn't there, it was my twin ........ :brownbag

So seriously, how many people are we looking at here now? I'm probably gonna look into the forrest hill inn/motel/closet, whatever it is, within the next few weeks or so, since there's a little extra money laying around this month. or kev, if you wanna do a group thing so we can rooms near each other, just let me know who to call like last time and we'll get it set up

new list:
Me
drexelsteve (+1?)
bnkrtstk (+1?)
leonard
(& father)
accessory man
gators (+?)
jackhart +1
3? from PJB?
? from Twisted Wheelers?

Thats alot of trucks! So were lookin at atleast 10, maybe more if everyone shows. Any confirmations from PJB & TW?


Forrest Hill Inn is cool with me. Its cheap and clean. if we get a def#, then we can probably call and hold a bunch of close-by rooms for a few days, and just get everyone to call in and reserve one of em. This way we're all our rooms are close by, but no one has to front cash for like 10 rooms.


So id say we need to set a RSVP date so we can get the hotel/motel situation sorted out.
Once we get a definite #, i can get in touch with Kyle and get the park opened up for us.

Great, bring the cops along! If anything illegal happens, I wasn't there, it was my twin ........ :brownbag


Its better for us, they can get us out of stuff, they always get me out of jams :toothless

Its better for us, they can get us out of stuff, they always get me out of jams :toothless

Good point - nice to have friends in all the right places.

Maybe we could set an RSVP date for the 25th of January. That'd give those who are still up in the air about going about 2 1/2 weeks to decide. And then we'd have a month's notice to give both to the hotel and Paragon.

Hey guys, my buddy with the F150 advised that although he is coming, he isn't bringing his truck, due to technical difficulties, something about having lost his gas tank... He'll just ride with me, I guess.

As for me, I'm trying to have an Aussie locker (up front) put in before the trip. So far I've both emailed Torqmasters and called to place an order, but I haven't heard back from them in a couple of days, if you can believe that. Business must be good. I also installed dual optimas, but I was gonna do that anyway, not just for this trip. :thumbup

Haven't gotten around to tow hooks yet, will work on that probably this weekend.

Maybe we could set an RSVP date for the 25th of January. That'd give those who are still up in the air about going about 2 1/2 weeks to decide. And then we'd have a month's notice to give both to the hotel and Paragon.
Sounds good to me :thumbup

Hey guys, my buddy with the F150 advised that although he is coming, he isn't bringing his truck, due to technical difficulties, something about having lost his gas tank... He'll just ride with me, I guess.

Sucks he cant bring his truck, but atleast he still gets to go, even as a passenger.

new page, new list:

Me
drexelsteve (+1?)
bnkrtstk (+1?)
leonard
(& father)
accessory man
gators (+?)
jackhart
3? from PJB?
? from Twisted Wheelers?

this is looking to be on of our biggest trips i believe, well that is if every one wakes up on time *cough*dave*cough*. i know i'm def in i know my dad's coming not sure yet if we're gonna bring his truck seeing as we found that both leafs are cracked and its frigid out so might not head to the junkyard.

frigid ain't the word, my fawkin truck overheated today cause the dam coolant was frozen. Was gonna spool the frontend today but instead i had to deal with that. Don't worry, i'll be locked up by the run.

ooooooooo spool, in that case maybe i won't do that pull off with ya, limited slip in rear and spool up front +160 extra cubes. anyhow its been snowing in the poconos all week, and if the temp stays the way it is we should be in for a hellva time, just nobody break anything.

what, gettin cold feet? :goodfinge

we'll see what happens.

frigid ain't the word, my fawkin truck overheated today cause the dam coolant was frozen. Was gonna spool the frontend today but instead i had to deal with that. Don't worry, i'll be locked up by the run.
how the hell could your coolant freeze

how the hell could your coolant freeze

cough wrong mixcough :goodfinge

hahaha, that happened to my parents yesterday too :histerica

cough wrong mixcough :goodfinge
yup :brownbag

:slap

hahahaha, today this loser i work with told me his stock 99 chebby 1500 xcab could go anywhere my truck could :histerica :histerica :histerica
i told him to prove it at paragon in feb. (He said he would, but i know he'll chicken out.)

hahahaha, today this loser i work with told me his stock 99 chebby 1500 xcab could go anywhere my truck could :histerica :histerica :histerica
i told him to prove it at paragon in feb. (He said he would, but i know he'll chicken out.)

No worries, I've winched out aChevy before :thumbup

looks like i will have my aussie locker and winch bumper (minus the winch, not enough fundages) for paragon. :chili:

No worries, I've winched out aChevy before :thumbup
ive pulled two of em (and a dodge) out of the water crossing on Inner Spare Tire :thumbup

looks like i will have my aussie locker and winch bumper (minus the winch, not enough fundages) for paragon. :chili:
Sweet! :rockon

no fair everyones getting goodies, damn my poor, broke ass(no money).

how's about I buy you a nice air freshener for the trip Leonard?? :goodfinge

no fair everyones getting goodies, damn my poor, broke ass(no money).
well on that note should i get some bfg's or mtr's, i can't decide. :goodfinge

well on that note should i get some bfg's or mtr's, i can't decide. :goodfinge

no super swampers???

no super swampers???
nah, ain't nothin like a set of NEW tires.

So buy NEW swampers! Theyll probably be cheaper than MTRs anyway.

well on that note should i get some bfg's or mtr's, i can't decide. :goodfinge

:lowblow

well heres the thing, i can get 35"BFG MT's for $140, 35"MTR's for $150, 37" MTR's for $175.(prices from work) Problem is that they're all on backorder, the 37's for 2months!!!. well i can also get some dunlop's or grabbers for about 120-130. too many decisions. :thumbup

Get the tire you want, even if you have to wait a couple months to get it. Otherwise youll just end up buying them down the road anyway.

i've made my choice. u guys will have to wait to find out :goodfinge

so uh...about this trip, everybody still in? can't wait to make yall look bad :thumbup

Unless my truck spontaneously combusts sometime between then and now, im still in! :thumbup

are we still shooting for a confirm date by the 25th? this way we can start calling and getting reservations made .....

still in...yeah, would like to start making confirms. if we know we're goin, why wait?

I'm in :thumbup

I just went reading through the forum due to Jackhart's nagging me to go, and i THINK that I'm going to do it. I need to look at my work schedule and my potential funds by then. I HAVE to get some new tires before then. I'm looking at getting some 33 BFG MTA's, maybe 32's if I don't have the cash. Oh yea....and I need to get rid of these auto hubs.

How many trials are down there that arn't going to eat my stock rig. I don't need to be busting up my DD. :brownbag

How many trials are down there that arn't going to eat my stock rig. I don't need to be busting up my DD. :brownbag

My concern too, cuz it's my DD also. Apparently we aren't doing anything too gear busting, at least that is what I was told. As you can see, I am running pretty stock, I may have a front locker in place by next month, depending on if/when the Aussie arrives. But no lift, no large tires, etc.

Well I guess I can always biatch out if the trail looks too untamed. After the new rubber I'm barely going to have the cash for an oil change and gas down there :brownbag

I'm going to try though :rockon

I have no interest in anything difficult either, this is still my daily driver with no lift etc. etc. just don't get behind Leonard, he will do anything :toothless and Drexelsteve has a 79, so bone stock that thing goes anywhere, and he has done sme work, so dont get behind him either

I have no interest in anything difficult either, this is still my daily driver with no lift etc. etc. just don't get behind Leonard, he will do anything :toothless and Drexelsteve has a 79, so bone stock that thing goes anywhere, and he has done sme work, so dont get behind him either

We forget that drexelsteve also likes to drop trees! :histerica

Here's the thing - the only two who aren't pretty much stock are reptillikus and drexelsteve; and leonard if his 'i don't give a s.hit' attitude counts as a mod. But we're not gonna run anything the group as a whole can't run and between reptillikus, drexelsteve and i we have a good idea of the layout of the land and what to expect on each trail, give or take weather changes and what not. So we're not gonna take you guys somewhere if we don't think you'll make it through and eveyone's always good about paying attention to people's concerns, like no excessive body damages, not too many rocks, etc.
Besides, there are usually bypasses that will loop you around obstacles you don't feel comfortable taking. The great thing about Paragon is the variety of trails - and there's always the play area if you're looking for some mud and some light poser wheeling.

oh yea, almost forgot --

i'm in .. with the brand new camcorder AND digital camera i've acquired over the past few weeks. so bring your pretty faces boys - we're gonna put you in the movies! :toothless

yup, like my girl said there's always a bypass around obstacles so there shouldn't be anyproblems. from what i read on paragon's site the park is gonna be open to the public every weekend in feb as long as we register between 9 and 10am, but hopefully it won't be that crouded. ought to be a great tiime :thumbup

yup, like my girl said ........... :thumbup

Or as I like to refer to her, Steve's Best Mod Yet!


:thumbup

u never stop do ya :histerica

If I ever do, Send an Ambulance. :shocked

we're not gonna run anything the group as a whole can't run and between reptillikus, drexelsteve and i we have a good idea of the layout of the land and what to expect on each trail, give or take weather changes and what not. So we're not gonna take you guys somewhere if we don't think you'll make it through and eveyone's always good about paying attention to people's concerns, like no excessive body damages, not too many rocks, etc.
Besides, there are usually bypasses that will loop you around obstacles you don't feel comfortable taking. The great thing about Paragon is the variety of trails - and there's always the play area if you're looking for some mud and some light poser wheeling.

yeah, what she said :toothless

I have an idea of some trails we can run thatll take up most of a day, and shouldnt be too bad for a stocker. between the three of us we should be able to come up with a weekend's worth of stuff that wont destroy a truck on 31s :thumbup


Steve, you mentioned the ride to PJB and twisted wheelers....any word from them?



new page, new list:

Me
drexelsteve (+1?)
bnkrtstk (+1?)
leonard
accessory man
gators (+?)
jackhart
stangmata
3? from PJB?
? from Twisted Wheelers?

Three possibles from PJB but no definites from there or TW.

I'm with stang and Jack, I don't wanna bust up my rig. :brownbag

just a taste
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=103184&toggle=fullsize&filename=DCP01313.JPG

just a taste
http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=103184&toggle=fullsize&filename=DCP01313.JPG

ya got claws ya prick, oh well just hope ya don't have to back up in a stuck. umm maybe i still could pull out the big bad 460.

i think having a "i don't give a shit attitude" should count as a mod.

Claws are cool, they do pretty good going forward, but suck in reverse. They just dig to china.


Bnkrtstk, dont worry, we wont destroy your truck. Youll still be able to drive home :toothless

don't plan on backin up :thumbup i tell ya what, these pics don't do em justice. they look much more agressive in person. can't wait to wheel em.

They look great, and I like the bumper, but what possesed you to use the old school grill?

Bnkrtstk, dont worry, we wont destroy your truck. Youll still be able to drive home :toothless

That's all that counts. I was kidding..........sort of.

Well I'm going to space out the front bumper this weekend and put some coil spacers in the front in preperation for the 33's. I've just got to do a little more shopping so that I can absolutely decide on which tires I want.

I'm getting stoked!

Well I'm going to space out the front bumper this weekend and put some coil spacers in the front in preperation for the 33's. I've just got to do a little more shopping so that I can absolutely decide on which tires I want.

I'm getting stoked!

I like the Pro Comp MT's I got them from www.ntwonline.com. They were by three get one free.

Thatsa nice looking tire....just a bit out of my price range.

Thanks for the link! I'm checking out other tires right now

I found this on Paragon's BB

Hotel discounts;http://paragonap.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=2276

I'm waiting for a call back, single room rate is 69.95/night. I waiting for a group rate, do you think we can fill ten rooms?

damn, i should get me some 33's too.
I just got a grizzly push bar, tryin to find some offroad lights for it now. Not really a wheelin mod, but it beats what Will got. :goodfinge

I just spoke with Laurie at the Hampton, 69 a night, continental Breakfast, HBO, high speed internet connections(for all you laptop people), appetizer and drink coupons for Damon's. Just a thought. If you decide to go with them call and ask for Laurie or Natalie. If not make sure you tell them you're headed to PAP. 570.454.3449.

thats where we stayed last time. Place was really nice but my g/f had a bad experience with them (they screwed the bill up). She says she'll never stay there again :cry

thats where we stayed last time. Place was really nice but my g/f had a bad experience with them (they screwed the bill up). She says she'll never stay there again :cry

Nah, it was the Fairfield Marriott. We can do the Hampton if it can work it's way into the budget. :thumbup

Cool, ill have to call the Hampton tomorrow :thumbup

then thats the place across the steet? :shrug

$69 a night aint too bad

then thats the place across the steet? :shrug

not sure where it is .....

Not really a wheelin mod, but it beats what Will got. :goodfinge

your just jealous of my mighty wood. actually i'm waiting for the bumper and grill guard i got off of steve(bnkrtstk), thank you much, to get back from being blast beaded and zinc coated(no rust for a long long time) then their getting painted and put on.

i think the hampton was across the street.

The Forest Hill is right across the street from the Marriott, if I remember clearly. I think The Hampton is actually the hotel right as we get on I81 to heads towards Paragon - it has the drop down behind it overlooking the valley and it attached to the Top of the 80's restaurant, which overlooks the interstates and the mountains.

So we'll have to figure that out -- but anyway, it's past the 25th. Do we have a final list ready so we can start making our plans and phone calls?

was gonna ask if anybody made arrangments at ether the hampton or forest hill, i prefer the cheaper of the two myself but i'll go with the majority. actually may only be able to do sunday, starting a new job on monday and i have to work every other sat. but i should be able to arrang it so i'm off, just need a weekend to stay above freezing so i can get some work done getting tired of losing my fingers.

'da list:
Me
drexelsteve (+1?)
bnkrtstk (+1?)
leonard
accessory man
gators (+?)
jackhart
stangmata
3? from PJB??
? from Twisted Wheelers??
So at this time id have to guess that theres only gonna be 8 trucks.


I forgot to call last friday :brownbag Where is everyone gonna stay so i can call the right hotel/motel?
Also, everyone IS going, right? Theres no turnin back now!!! :toothless

forest hill???? definitely prefer the cheaper one - sixty bucks less is sixty bucks happier.

8's better then the usual 3-4 i would think not only for wheeling but it means more beer.

8's better then the usual 3-4 i would think not only for wheeling but it means more beer.
i second that

little bit of wheelin I just did tonight

http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=104104&toggle=fullsize&f=Picture 107.jpg

http://www.superford.org/getfile.php?id=104101&toggle=fullsize&f=Picture 105.jpg

Tryin to stuff those 31's with the 2 1/2" lift, just ain't happening :shrug

forest hill???? definitely prefer the cheaper one - sixty bucks less is sixty bucks happier.
Forrest Hill is cool with me

'da list:

Also, everyone IS going, right? Theres no turnin back now!!! :toothless


uhhhhh...i just got news I MIGHT have to go to South Carolina that weekend. God I hope not!

uhhhhh...i just got news I MIGHT have to go to South Carolina that weekend. God I hope not!
otherwise... :slap

uhhhhh...i just got news I MIGHT have to go to South Carolina that weekend. God I hope not!


business or family related ansewer for business uh boss sorry i can't make it down to S.C. but my leg just fell off and well you know. :duh

uhhhhh...i just got news I MIGHT have to go to South Carolina that weekend. God I hope not!


SC my ass, you're just chicken. :goodfinge

SC my ass, you're just chicken. :goodfinge

Trust me man I'm going to be soooo bummed if I have to go down there. I'm even getting my tires next week so I'm going to be DYING to try them out.

But I gotta stick to priority.

Trust me man I'm going to be soooo bummed if I have to go down there. I'm even getting my tires next week so I'm going to be DYING to try them out.

But I gotta stick to priority.

I hear ya, there will be more trips. Are there any spots near you to wheel/camp. I'd be up for a late summer/fall road trip.

I hear ya, there will be more trips. Are there any spots near you to wheel/camp. I'd be up for a late summer/fall road trip.

There's some places up in the Adirondaks. That would probably be quite a hike for you though. I need to do my research a little more and find out what is in southern NY.

So we've got our definites ..... pretty much

Have we decided on the Forrest Hill? We need to make reservations ..... and I guess we need to call Paragon too??

It's getting close!!!!!!!!!! Bought new accessories for the camcorder and digital camera today (bigger memory cards, longer batteries) so I'm all set. :toothless

'da list:
Me
drexelsteve (+1?)
bnkrtstk (+1?)
leonard
accessory man
gators (+?)
jackhart
stangmata
3? from PJB??
? from Twisted Wheelers??
So at this time id have to guess that theres only gonna be 8 trucks.


OK unfortunately I am not a definate, just a maybe. strickly a cashflow thing. We have a Zoning board meeting on Feb. 4th, if good news I should be able to go. I can make my own hotel arrangments of need be, or sleep in the bar, I mean in the truck. :shocked

ALSO, I saw Gators last night on the road at a light, hardly recognized him he was driving some little car!!!! We chatted for a minute at the light but I think he should be put on probation for driving a little car :thumbup

as usual, droppin like flies :goodfinge hey, i drive a little car...u got a problem with that? :boxing

as usual, droppin like flies :goodfinge hey, i drive a little car...u got a problem with that? :boxing

me no likey anything smaller then a V8 engine
:toothless

steve, it was a '03 jetta :thumbup

me no likey anything smaller then a V8 engine
:toothless
what, it has a hemi in it :brownbag

what, it has a hemi in it :brownbag

an 03 Jetta with a Hemi???? is that what happens when a German man and a ram have sex????

So seeing as the Jetta has a Hemi, when do you plan on hooking a boat trailer up to it and racing it????

PLUS I think if it had a hemi I would have seen it next to you in the passenger seat. Least it was clean, more then my truck was
:toothless

an 03 Jetta with a Hemi???? is that what happens when a German man and a ram have sex????

So seeing as the Jetta has a Hemi, when do you plan on hooking a boat trailer up to it and racing it????

PLUS I think if it had a hemi I would have seen it next to you in the passenger seat. Least it was clean, more then my truck was
:toothless
It was a dealer option :shrug

It was a dealer option :shrug

Sleeping with a ram was a dealer option? YUK

It was a dealer option :shrug

A drug dealer option perhaps, bring some of whatever they gave you to smoke when they told you that up to Paragon. No wonder you can sleep through an alarm your getting the good stuff!!!!!

me no likey anything smaller then a V8 engine
:toothless
well no offense, but your v8 engine is pretty small :goodfinge

well no offense, but your v8 engine is pretty small :goodfinge

Yup, but I drive it everyday. I have no doubt a 78-79 with a 460 is the way to go, but you don't use it as your only transport :toothless

I could hardly afford my 78 with the 351M, but I miss it

Yeah, really! What the hell, you get to whatever you want to your truck, and who cares, cuz you have a puny car to drive around! The rest of us have to drive our broncos around everywhere we go! What the hell?!













:toothless

A drug dealer option perhaps, bring some of whatever they gave you to smoke when they told you that up to Paragon. No wonder you can sleep through an alarm your getting the good stuff!!!!!
I get a refill of that every oil change.

what do you mean have to kev i chose to, and matt you better show up, nothin smaller then a v8 huh oh well guess i've got another truck to drag around paragon then :goodfinge

lol, i know :toothless

Hey, i may have an '84 toyota comin up with us. If we can get it registered/insured/inspected before the ride, that is.

Do you have to be inspected to ride, i forget?

Do you have to be inspected to ride, i forget?

hey what's up guys? haven't been around for a little while, up to my eyeballs re-tiling/painting the kitchen, had to stay off the floor for a little, no 'puter access.

i am wondering who/when/where are we gonna make reservations? just a reminder my friend Bill (with the broken F150) is coming along for the ride, guess we'll grab a room together. would just as soon make the reservation now, because i know we are going no matter what.

my damn aussie locker isn't here yet, neither is my bumper. i am gettin a little anxious....

i don't think you have to be inspected just registered. at least they never bothered me when i was riding with a 2-3 month out of date stickers.

good cause mine are out of date as of last month. Probably will have it inspected by then anyway.

i dont think it has to be. I mean, how to you register tube buggies?

oh yeah...everyone is staying at Forrest Hill Inn then?

Whats the point of having the insurance then? Its not like the ins company will insure you for 4wheelin

i dunno. i wouldnt worry about it too much, im sure theyll let you in with no problem. I cant recall anyone ever looking at my insp. sticker anyway.

Whats the point of having the insurance then? Its not like the ins company will insure you for 4wheelin
got that right, after my "incident" with that heep my ins. agent siad i wasen't aloud to wheel anymore. yeah ok :wacko

i dont think it has to be. I mean, how to you register tube buggies?

oh yeah...everyone is staying at Forrest Hill Inn then?


you have a number/address for Forrest Hill?

you have a number/address for Forrest Hill?


Forrest Hill Inn (570) 459-2730
Route 93 & Airport Beltway

I just reserved mine :thumbup

I just reserved ours. I didn't think and told them two people and it's $54.00 a night. Is it cheaper to tell them one? 'Cause I'll call them back and tell them my "passenger" cancelled and get a lower rate. I'm cheap, what can I say.

sounds good to me, i'll tell my guys at work so they can reserve a room. :thumbup

I just reserved ours. I didn't think and told them two people and it's $54.00 a night. Is it cheaper to tell them one? 'Cause I'll call them back and tell them my "passenger" cancelled and get a lower rate. I'm cheap, what can I say.

That's the rate I got too, just tell them it's you and a child, kids stay free. :thumbup

I always tell them im going to be at Paragon all weekend, and they knock a couple bucks off :thumbup

i'll reserve mine tomorrow probably.

That's the rate I got too, just tell them it's you and a child, kids stay free. :thumbup

It IS her and a child, you met Steve. He is a big CHILD, like me, and Leonard, and the rest of us, so we can all stay in her room FREE
:beer

It IS her and a child, you met Steve. He is a big CHILD, like me, and Leonard, and the rest of us, so we can all stay in her room FREE
:beer
well your a$$ be sleepin on the floor :lowblow

haha sucks for you matt