read both threads pirate and nc 4x4.
http://www.nc4x4.com/forums/showthread.php?t=25320
http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=584139
Good morning fellow PBB members,

PLEASE POST THIS ON ANY OTHER FORUM THAT DISCUSSES THE UPPER TELLICO OHV.

I just had a lengthy conversation with the N.C. Rangers that handle the Tellico OHV, received some useful information and was asked to pass it on in order to keep the trails in good shape. At this point, the trails will not close, but if the following things are not observed, they will continue to raise the fee until it is outrageous, which will cover repair of the trails via the outsourced trail maintenance contractors. I do not want to see $40 - $50 fees to ride.

First and foremost, the main thing they are trying to control right now is erosion and sediment around any streams, creeks or rivers. Secondly, ALL man made ATV bypasses are FORBIDDEN. If you are caught on an ATV bypass, you're vehicle WILL be impounded and you WILL be fined. Here is the word, directly from the horses mouth as to the other obstacles. No more speculation.

1. LOWER 2: This obstacle is not closed. You may NOT take a bypass. Stay on the main trail, take tag numbers (if available) of vehicles that attempt otherwise and report to the Ranger district at (828) 837-5152.

2. SLICKROCK: You may NOT take the bypass on the upper half or the ATV bypass to the right. This trail is under a maintenance contract and the bypass is for maintenance vehicles only. Stay on the main trail and take tag numbers (if available) of vehicles that attempt otherwise and report to the Ranger district at (828) 837-5152.

3. GUARDRAIL: You MAY take the lower route to the left around the main line to get to the top. This is not considered a bypass.

4. SCHOOLBUS: You MAY take the right line (the lesser of the evils) on the main trail. You MAY NOT use the "ATV bypass" off to the far right.

5. ALL OTHER OBSTACLES: You are NOT to manually disturb any of the land features or terrain. Winching logs or rocks out of the way is forbidden and you will be fined and/or possibly jailed.

Again, the USFS is mainly concerned about unnecessary erosion and sediment around water. I was specifically told that they were not as concerned about the upper ridge as they were at lower elevations by the water sources. In my opinion, USFS needs to post signs regarding this info so it will be clear. If you would like to verify anything posted, please call (828) 837-5152.

Thank you,

Chris Hyde

Can't you just give us the cliff notes???

:stupid

cliffs notes would be great

They are talking about lower 2 being closed which at this time it has not. It is an F4 extreme trails and I doubt most anyone here will be running alot of the F4 trails do to the fact most of our rigs are not set up for it.

http://www.tellico4x4.com/images/tellico_map.gif

well , i could have . i was very busy and wanted to go ahead and post it up.. sorry.
Good morning fellow PBB members,

PLEASE POST THIS ON ANY OTHER FORUM THAT DISCUSSES THE UPPER TELLICO OHV.

I just had a lengthy conversation with the N.C. Rangers that handle the Tellico OHV, received some useful information and was asked to pass it on in order to keep the trails in good shape. At this point, the trails will not close, but if the following things are not observed, they will continue to raise the fee until it is outrageous, which will cover repair of the trails via the outsourced trail maintenance contractors. I do not want to see $40 - $50 fees to ride.

First and foremost, the main thing they are trying to control right now is erosion and sediment around any streams, creeks or rivers. Secondly, ALL man made ATV bypasses are FORBIDDEN. If you are caught on an ATV bypass, you're vehicle WILL be impounded and you WILL be fined. Here is the word, directly from the horses mouth as to the other obstacles. No more speculation.

1. LOWER 2: This obstacle is not closed. You may NOT take a bypass. Stay on the main trail, take tag numbers (if available) of vehicles that attempt otherwise and report to the Ranger district at (828) 837-5152.

2. SLICKROCK: You may NOT take the bypass on the upper half or the ATV bypass to the right. This trail is under a maintenance contract and the bypass is for maintenance vehicles only. Stay on the main trail and take tag numbers (if available) of vehicles that attempt otherwise and report to the Ranger district at (828) 837-5152.

3. GUARDRAIL: You MAY take the lower route to the left around the main line to get to the top. This is not considered a bypass.

4. SCHOOLBUS: You MAY take the right line (the lesser of the evils) on the main trail. You MAY NOT use the "ATV bypass" off to the far right.

5. ALL OTHER OBSTACLES: You are NOT to manually disturb any of the land features or terrain. Winching logs or rocks out of the way is forbidden and you will be fined and/or possibly jailed.

Again, the USFS is mainly concerned about unnecessary erosion and sediment around water. I was specifically told that they were not as concerned about the upper ridge as they were at lower elevations by the water sources. In my opinion, USFS needs to post signs regarding this info so it will be clear. If you would like to verify anything posted, please call (828) 837-5152.

Thank you,

Chris Hyde

From what i understand..

It isnt true that they are closing the lower 2, but; (from a post on PBB by Chris hyde)

PLEASE POST THIS ON ANY OTHER FORUM THAT DISCUSSES THE UPPER TELLICO OHV.

I just had a lengthy conversation with the N.C. Rangers that handle the Tellico OHV, received some useful information and was asked to pass it on in order to keep the trails in good shape. At this point, the trails will not close, but if the following things are not observed, they will continue to raise the fee until it is outrageous, which will cover repair of the trails via the outsourced trail maintenance contractors. I do not want to see $40 - $50 fees to ride.

First and foremost, the main thing they are trying to control right now is erosion and sediment around any streams, creeks or rivers. Secondly, ALL man made ATV bypasses are FORBIDDEN. If you are caught on an ATV bypass, you're vehicle WILL be impounded and you WILL be fined. Here is the word, directly from the horses mouth as to the other obstacles. No more speculation.

1. LOWER 2: This obstacle is not closed. You may NOT take a bypass. Stay on the main trail, take tag numbers (if available) of vehicles that attempt otherwise and report to the Ranger district at (828) 837-5152.

2. SLICKROCK: You may NOT take the bypass on the upper half or the ATV bypass to the right. This trail is under a maintenance contract and the bypass is for maintenance vehicles only. Stay on the main trail and take tag numbers (if available) of vehicles that attempt otherwise and report to the Ranger district at (828) 837-5152.

3. GUARDRAIL: You MAY take the lower route to the left around the main line to get to the top. This is not considered a bypass.

4. SCHOOLBUS: You MAY take the right line (the lesser of the evils) on the main trail. You MAY NOT use the "ATV bypass" off to the far right.

5. ALL OTHER OBSTACLES: You are NOT to manually disturb any of the land features or terrain. Winching logs or rocks out of the way is forbidden and you will be fined and/or possibly jailed.

Again, the USFS is mainly concerned about unnecessary erosion and sediment around water. I was specifically told that they were not as concerned about the upper ridge as they were at lower elevations by the water sources. In my opinion, USFS needs to post signs regarding this info so it will be clear. If you would like to verify anything posted, please call (828) 837-5152.


Kinda obvious, but I posted it anyway.

(awww man, broncomania edited his post.)

I doubt most anyone here will be running alot of the F4 trails do to the fact most of our rigs are not set up for it.


yes , but read #5 in the cliff notes.
and this
First and foremost, the main thing they are trying to control right now is erosion and sediment around any streams, creeks or rivers. Secondly, ALL man made ATV bypasses are FORBIDDEN. If you are caught on an ATV bypass, you're vehicle WILL be impounded and you WILL be fined. Here is the word, directly from the horses mouth as to the other obstacles. No more speculation

... I doubt most anyone here will be running alot of the F4 trails do to the fact most of our rigs are not set up for it. yes , but read #5 in the cliff notes.


Well that just takes all the fun out of it :doh0715: [/sarcasm]



I doubt my little winch will move a rock/log anyway... Which reminds me that i still need to order that replacement synthetic rope. Have you ordered yours yet, Dale?

i still need to order that replacement synthetic rope. Have you ordered yours yet, Dale?
check these out.
http://www.masterpull.com/

Whoa!! Thanks man! This is exactly what i need... and a lot cheaper than i was expecting!

http://www.masterpull.com/item.cfm?itemid=9123

Whoa!! Thanks man! This is exactly what i need... and a lot cheaper than i was expecting!

http://www.masterpull.com/item.cfm?itemid=9123

you are welcome. here is the one i want. but its way to expensive.:thumbup
http://www.masterpull.com/item.cfm?itemid=35367

Niicce!! It may be a bit of overkill for my 700# ATV, tho...



Wow, we hijacked the heck out of this thread :brownbag

Which reminds me that i still need to order that replacement synthetic rope.

I've got one I'll sell ya...it comes with a free winch attached to a Bronco.....:toothless