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MUD E1 01-10-2004 01:31 AM

Headlight switch replacement
 
I ordered and have received a headlight switch to replace the one in my 1990 full size Bronco. The problem is, the switch that was delivered is not compatible with what is in my Bronco and the supplier argues that it should fit. Here is a picture of my switch:
http://bejara.freeservers.com/BR01.jpg

Here is a picture of the switch that was delivered
http://bejara.freeservers.com/BGY01.jpg

As you can see, they are quite similar, but have two noticeable differences: (1) my switch has nine electrical terminals and the delivered has eight (some in slightly different locations), and (2) the plastic housings are keyed differently, meaning the delivered switch will not physically plug into my harness plug, shown here:
http://bejara.freeservers.com/BR03.jpg

Has anyone run across this problem when trying to replace this switch? Anyone know where I can get the correct switch? For reference, the part number stamped on my switch is E7TB-11654-AC and the part number that the supplier says the delivered switch is (it's not stamped) is E7TZ11654B.

Incidentally, the supplier has not replied to any of my concerns (via email and phone) after Wednesday when I emailed them these pictures and described the problem.

Dustball 01-10-2004 10:29 AM

Return it or sell it on eBay. Get one from a junkyard for cheap and you'll know that it fits.

MUD E1 01-10-2004 12:09 PM

I would like to return it, but the supplier appears to be ignoring me and I am not about to just send it back without confirmation of a refund. As for junk yards, I don't buy electronic stuff from them if new parts are readily available.

Rockfrog 01-10-2004 02:43 PM

I would have them check the part number again .... E7TZ is an odd combo (the Z code is associated with Mustang - not a truck) you may have gotten a car switch instead of the truck swith and that may be where the problem lies .... you are also experiencing the exact reason many of us hit the junkyards for parts. even the readily available parts may not be the right one (even if you go directly to Ford it's not always guaranteed - but at least they will refund on the wrong part)
I'd be calling and e-mailing continuously to the supplier - make them pay attention .... bored? send an e-mail, online, send an e-mail ..........

None2Slow 01-10-2004 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockfrog
I'd be calling and e-mailing continuously to the supplier - make them pay attention .... bored? send an e-mail, online, send an e-mail ..........

Vindictive? Post the email addy here and we'll send an email :lowblow

MUD E1 01-10-2004 03:07 PM

I'm not ready to disclose the supplier yet. I'm sure many partrons of this board have had good experiences with them (in fact, the rear window weather stripping they sent me was very satisfactory). Still, if an appropriate response is not offered in a reasonable amount of time, then I can choose alternative methods of recourse. A well placed letter can do wonders.

Thanks for the insight on the Z code, Rockfrog. That might just be the problem. I'll contact my Ford dealer to see what they know about it.

. . . I may end up contacting some wrecking yards afterall.

Dustball 01-10-2004 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rockfrog
I would have them check the part number again .... E7TZ is an odd combo (the Z code is associated with Mustang - not a truck) you may have gotten a car switch instead of the truck swith and that may be where the problem lies .... you are also experiencing the exact reason many of us hit the junkyards for parts. even the readily available parts may not be the right one (even if you go directly to Ford it's not always guaranteed - but at least they will refund on the wrong part)
I'd be calling and e-mailing continuously to the supplier - make them pay attention .... bored? send an e-mail, online, send an e-mail ..........

Not at all, E7TZ decoded as-

E- 1980's
7 as in 1987 (1988 model year)
T- Ford light trucks
Z- Ford Division Service Parts

Just about every part on your Bronco will have the E7TZ or similiar prefix.

Go here for decoding-

http://www.wantabe.com/hdrace/dfrdpt.htm

miesk5 01-10-2004 07:04 PM

yo ,
I did a search earlier today, but had to go quickly.
Look at: Ford Parts network
and see that the E7TB-11654-AC can not be found, but that the other is avail.:
E7TZ11654B $29.33 $24.64
Electrical - Chassis electrical - Switches - Headlamp switch
HEADLAMP SWITCH, F150-350, Bronco 1992 - 1998 ..shown as 1992 +..!
...
but
Motorcraft search comes up w/SW-2103 [Headlamp Switch] Includes OEM styles (DAEH-9300HCN and 9383 ERW)
Can you go to a NAPA with it? and see what they have in stock

MUD E1 01-10-2004 10:13 PM

Thanks for the help, guys. I did a search on the Motorcraft today too and found that the E7TZ11654B goes on a 1990. I must have a freak Bronco. I called the local Ford dealer and gave them the E7TB-11654-AC off of my switch--they have 3 in stock. I guess I'll find out Monday if I'm really in luck.

I wonder if the Z (Ford Service Parts) is a designation for replacement parts, not ones used on the production line.

Anyone want a E7TZ11654B for $15?

gators0204 01-11-2004 02:37 PM

I bought mine from autozone, and a new harness from ford. Matched up perfectley fine.

MUD E1 01-14-2004 12:57 AM

It turns out, evidentally, that the supplier gave me the right part number via email (E7TZ-11654-B) but had accidentally sent the wrong switch in the mail. That's why the supplier was convinced it was the right switch but that I knew it wasn't. The only part number that came in the mail was on the box, a cross-reference number of SW-208 (of which I cannot find anything for on the internet). The supplier allowed me to return the switch.

Are you still with me? Here's a picture of the switch that the Ford dealer gave me today:
http://bejara.freeservers.com/MOTO01.jpg

If freeservers has not caught on to all of my links, then you may be able to see that it is the same as the one in my Bronco that needs to be replaced. Here is a picture of the box the Ford dealer gave me:
http://bejara.freeservers.com/MOTO02.jpg

So, all is well. I'm still not sure why there are two part numbers for this switch, one in my Bronco (E7TB-11654-AC) and the one that is replacing it (E7TZ-11654-B). What's even more confusing is that there is a THIRD part number, the one on the new switch that the Ford dealer gave me:
http://bejara.freeservers.com/MOTO03.jpg

It's E77B-11654-AA . . . and it's Motorcraft. I give up!


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