Greasable Vs Non Greasable Balljoints

MikeW · 10-18-2007, 12:18 AM

I believe I have the moog lifetime warranty balljoints, I just need to search for a receipt if I can find it.

Now bring on the debate of Greasable Vs Non-Greasable, I want this set to last 100K if it has to.
I haven't had good luck with balljoints. When I first brought it in May 2000, the balljoints were replaced by a shop, those only lasted 20,000 miles, So now I need new balljoints again, these have 1,000 short of 60,000 miles on them. Now I don't want to be replacing them again, I'd like to do a SAS when I have the financial opportunity to do so.
I plan on buying Spicers at NAPA with the lifetime warranty, Im dissapointed in Moog as this set was, but I don't know who the first set came from, but I don't think they lowers were greasable ones, but think the upper ones were, I may be wrong.

**Fireguy50** · 10-18-2007, 02:51 AM

From what jopes told me....

Most people don't lube the Greasable joints offen enough to justify it. Plus the grease paths lower the joints strength. get the quality life time sealed joints.

**MikE2** · 10-18-2007, 10:13 AM

With ball joints I get the greasable ones. The upper one is tough to grease but if you get a needle with the right zirc it can be done. You just gotta have the wheel turned right and the axleshaft in the exact right position. With U-joints, non greasable all the way.

MikeW · 10-18-2007, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikE2

With ball joints I get the greasable ones. The upper one is tough to grease but if you get a needle with the right zirc it can be done. You just gotta have the wheel turned right and the axleshaft in the exact right position. With U-joints, non greasable all the way.

I have a needle adapter and I am familiar with that.

SyntheticD · 10-18-2007, 10:27 AM

i have 4 point greasable u joins have to use the needle on each end. i like greasable balljoints, just invest in your own greasegun and remeber to grease about every time you change the oil.

Spectre · 10-18-2007, 02:35 PM

If you have ridiculous size tires on your truck and are going to go through Ball joints anyways does it make sense to just use the cheaper non greasable joints?

***Gacknar*** · 10-18-2007, 03:48 PM

3 of my factory non greasables ball joints lasted 480,000 miles, so I replaced them with the same non greasable joints

Bronco4Life · 10-18-2007, 05:16 PM

I'd go with Spicer non-greaseables. They're what my old mechanic buddy recommends, as he's put several moog BJ's in some local kids' trucks that haven't lasted for #$&*, and then had extreme success with Spicer BJ's.

gialinn · 10-18-2007, 05:23 PM

Yeah, I always go with a good quality ball joint or tie rod end. I like greasable, but the other ones work Just fine.

**MikE2** · 10-18-2007, 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gacknar

3 of my factory non greasables ball joints lasted 480,000 miles...

Say bye to that with those new tires you got.

10-18-2007, 12:18 AM	#1
MikeW In Front of Jopes Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Brrmidji Posts: 3,408 iTrader: (3)	Greasable Vs Non Greasable Balljoints I believe I have the moog lifetime warranty balljoints, I just need to search for a receipt if I can find it. Now bring on the debate of Greasable Vs Non-Greasable, I want this set to last 100K if it has to. I haven't had good luck with balljoints. When I first brought it in May 2000, the balljoints were replaced by a shop, those only lasted 20,000 miles, So now I need new balljoints again, these have 1,000 short of 60,000 miles on them. Now I don't want to be replacing them again, I'd like to do a SAS when I have the financial opportunity to do so. I plan on buying Spicers at NAPA with the lifetime warranty, Im dissapointed in Moog as this set was, but I don't know who the first set came from, but I don't think they lowers were greasable ones, but think the upper ones were, I may be wrong.

10-18-2007, 02:51 AM	#2
Fireguy50 can I go to bed yet? Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 11,483 iTrader: (20) Bronco Info: rusty	From what jopes told me.... Most people don't lube the Greasable joints offen enough to justify it. Plus the grease paths lower the joints strength. get the quality life time sealed joints. __________________ Ryan McCormick RJM Injection Tech My Bronco Fuel Injection Technical Library Parts replacement is not auto repair, if you can’t diagnose, don’t open the hood!

10-18-2007, 02:35 PM	#6
Spectre Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Riverside, CA Posts: 9,904 iTrader: (3) Bronco Info: 78 Bronco 400/C6	If you have ridiculous size tires on your truck and are going to go through Ball joints anyways does it make sense to just use the cheaper non greasable joints? __________________ Vic - W6VIC 1978 Ranger Bronco XLT 400/C6 with only 33's =( 2001 F250 - 6" SL. 37" tires Goliath 2007 Yamaha R1 Ricochet

10-18-2007, 03:48 PM	#7
*Gacknar* The Anti Yam! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia, Douglasville Posts: 21,826 iTrader: (4) Bronco Info: 86 Bronco XLT 357w/AOD	3 of my factory non greasables ball joints lasted 480,000 miles, so I replaced them with the same non greasable joints __________________ 86 Bronco - 357W/AOD - 6" suspension lift, 3" body lift - 38" TSL Radials - 456:1 Gears Sequential Multiport Mass-Air Fuel Injection from a 93 Mustang GT My SuperMotors Site - My Engine The Greatest Thread on FSB

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10-18-2007, 10:13 AM	#3
MikE2 Fullsize Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 2,578 iTrader: (5)	With ball joints I get the greasable ones. The upper one is tough to grease but if you get a needle with the right zirc it can be done. You just gotta have the wheel turned right and the axleshaft in the exact right position. With U-joints, non greasable all the way.

10-18-2007, 10:27 AM	#5
SyntheticD Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Location: Burley Idaho 83318 Posts: 753 iTrader: (9) Bronco Info: 84 F150 I6 4x4 Short Box	i have 4 point greasable u joins have to use the needle on each end. i like greasable balljoints, just invest in your own greasegun and remeber to grease about every time you change the oil.

10-18-2007, 05:23 PM	#9
gialinn Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 390 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1989 stock 302 eddie bauer	Yeah, I always go with a good quality ball joint or tie rod end. I like greasable, but the other ones work Just fine.

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