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Old 10-31-2009, 12:56 AM   #1
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alright im going to start collecting parts for my diesel swap, but im having trouble deciding on an engine to use. i was thinking a 5.9 cummins turbo diesel but alot of my friends are saying to go with a powerstroke.

what would be the best choice for a turbo diesel
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Depends on what you're workin with donor wise and how thick your wallet is...bring your wallet either way tho...Strokers are great, but to do it the right way, it takes alot of work...Cummins are cool too and fairly simple, but destroke parts are an arm and a leg...haven't seen a Duramax conversion in a BKO yet...but a diesel is a diesel, as long as it has a turbo, anyways...
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Depends on what you're workin with donor wise and how thick your wallet is...bring your wallet either way tho...Strokers are great, but to do it the right way, it takes alot of work...Cummins are cool too and fairly simple, but destroke parts are an arm and a leg...haven't seen a Duramax conversion in a BKO yet...but a diesel is a diesel, as long as it has a turbo, anyways...
You do not need destroked parts if you want to put the Cummins in. Cummins had a repower program in the past that put 3.9L four cylinders in panel vans that had Ford and/or GM engines and transmissions. The engine to transmission adapters for the four cyclinder Cummins are compatable with the 5.9l six cylinder Cummins up to 2001 IIRC. There is very good info available here, http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/index.php. And you always have the Dodge option of course.
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Old 10-31-2009, 09:19 AM   #4
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having done a powerstroke conversion myself, I recommend a 12 valve cummins for ease of install. For a powerstroke you will need a complete donor to do the swap properly. Search around on here there are several threads on the topic
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Old 10-31-2009, 01:55 PM   #5
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Do it right do it ford, Get a 7.3 out of a 98 to like 03 maybe you can find one totalled with a good engine, the reason for the 98-03 is the 7.3 didnt have a turbo until 94 1/2 and in 98 not only did ford give it a bigger turbo but it also came with an intercooler which between the bigger turbo and the intercooler added a good 50-75 horsepower to the engine. Im not knockin the cummins though, dont get me wrong its a great engine with OMG power. Or if you want to be really unique about it find a way to get a 6.0 out of a 250 and replace the fuel pressure reg (its pretty much the only problematic part in the engine) and your set, thats a good engine also, but whatever you do, do not even consider a 6.4 they are nothing but a pile of crap, my fathers a diesel tech so naturally I get learn all about them, and I get to hear about all the problems with them.
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Do it right do it ford, Get a 7.3 out of a 98 to like 03 maybe you can find one totalled with a good engine, the reason for the 98-03 is the 7.3 didnt have a turbo until 94 1/2 and in 98 not only did ford give it a bigger turbo but it also came with an intercooler which between the bigger turbo and the intercooler added a good 50-75 horsepower to the engine. Im not knockin the cummins though, dont get me wrong its a great engine with OMG power. Or if you want to be really unique about it find a way to get a 6.0 out of a 250 and replace the fuel pressure reg (its pretty much the only problematic part in the engine) and your set, thats a good engine also, but whatever you do, do not even consider a 6.4 they are nothing but a pile of crap, my fathers a diesel tech so naturally I get learn all about them, and I get to hear about all the problems with them.
Ford, ya mean International? I agree tho, OE is best...but 6.0's are crap!(ask me how I know...lol) 00-03 7.3's are great motors, but they too have their weak points.(ask me how I know again...lol) In all honesty, if you're talkin strokers, 95-97 are the most durable motors, period.(IMO anyways, odometers don't lie, usually...lol) Put a GTP38 w/a comp shroud and an intercooler on em and watch the hell out!!!(I would say ask me how I know, but we'll all find out next summer, prelude of things to come anyways...lol)
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I agree tho, OE is best...but 6.0's are crap!(ask me how I know...lol) 00-03 7.3's are great motors, but they too have their weak points.(ask me how I know again...lol)
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They really dont, Ive seen a 96 350 with 400k and the truck still ran like it was brand new. I guess that would go under the whole tried and true thing.
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and in 98 not only did ford give it a bigger turbo but it also came with an intercooler which between the bigger turbo and the intercooler added a good 50-75 horsepower to the engine.
You mean 10 horsepower. The 97 is rated at 225 and the 99 is rated at 235. There is no 98.
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You mean 10 horsepower. The 97 is rated at 225 and the 99 is rated at 235. There is no 98.
I love you MikE2, you're like a friggin diesel encyclopedia!!! Agreed on the there is no '98...must've missed that earlier.
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They really dont, Ive seen a 96 350 with 400k and the truck still ran like it was brand new. I guess that would go under the whole tried and true thing.
My '04 6.0 was hyped to be the greatest thing ever when I bought it(more horsepower, better fuel economy than my '00 7.3) until the fuel pump went out at, I kid you not, 3,500 miles...followed by new injectors at 22,000...new torqueshift trans at 33,000...another fuel pump at 35,000...sold it at 43,000...enough said? Just glad all that headache was covered under warranty.

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Do it right do it ford, Get a 7.3 out of a 98 to like 03 maybe you can find one totalled with a good engine, the reason for the 98-03 is the 7.3 didnt have a turbo until 94 1/2 and in 98 not only did ford give it a bigger turbo but it also came with an intercooler which between the bigger turbo and the intercooler added a good 50-75 horsepower to the engine. Im not knockin the cummins though, dont get me wrong its a great engine with OMG power. Or if you want to be really unique about it find a way to get a 6.0 out of a 250 and replace the fuel pressure reg (its pretty much the only problematic part in the engine) and your set, thats a good engine also, but whatever you do, do not even consider a 6.4 they are nothing but a pile of crap, my fathers a diesel tech so naturally I get learn all about them, and I get to hear about all the problems with them.
Guess he didn't teach you well enough then. There was no 98 PSD, ever. And funny you mention a 6.4 as crap, any supporting information? If you check any of the cummins or duraturd forums those guys hate the 6.4s because they simply cannot beat them. Those damn things run high 12's on a DPF delete and Spartan tune.

Ill bet (without looking it up) you can't even tell me how much more the 99-03 injectors flow then the OBS 7.3's.
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Guess he didn't teach you well enough then. There was no 98 PSD, ever. And funny you mention a 6.4 as crap, any supporting information? If you check any of the cummins or duraturd forums those guys hate the 6.4s because they simply cannot beat them. Those damn things run high 12's on a DPF delete and Spartan tune.

Ill bet (without looking it up) you can't even tell me how much more the 99-03 injectors flow then the OBS 7.3's.
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You mean 10 horsepower. The 97 is rated at 225 and the 99 is rated at 235. There is no 98.
97 is 235, 99 is 255
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97 is 235, 99 is 255
I'm not sure where you gut your nunbers at but they are wrong.
The right valve cover on a 99 says 250 hp but Ford has it rated at 235.
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