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Macmillan1 · 10-31-2009, 02:32 PM

As of now i have the Stock set of locking hubs on my truck, BUT i have a set of Superwinch lockouts sitting in a box on a shelf, which do you guys think are better? or should i just save up my money for something like Warn Premiums?

Need4racin · 10-31-2009, 02:39 PM

The stock manual hubs will be fine.

Blasterway · 10-31-2009, 05:39 PM

Keep the stock, if they go bad you already have a backup set.

Mudhound · 10-31-2009, 08:55 PM

I agree. Run the installed ones UNTIL you blow one of them, THEN switch out the busted one. If the question had been " I have the Auto hubs on my FSB, and a set of Brand X manuals setting in a box, should I switch them?", the answer would have "Yes, switch them BEFORE they blow.".

jklaw13 · 11-01-2009, 12:29 AM

Warn or Mile Markers are sooo much easier to work with. They come out in one piece vs stock, a big when you need to repack bearings or change your rotor. I have no experience with Superwinch hubs but they are probably the same. Good Luck

drinkbrew · 11-01-2009, 03:20 AM

I switched to warn premiums right away since my stockers were already trashed, but I have heard way to many stories of the stock ones failing when they needed them. if you are going to keep you stock hub just make sure you carry your replacements and the tools you need to change them with you for when they do go out so you are not stranded.

**SSgtTEX** · 11-01-2009, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by jklaw13

Warn or Mile Markers are sooo much easier to work with. They come out in one piece vs stock, a big when you need to repack bearings or change your rotor. I have no experience with Superwinch hubs but they are probably the same. Good Luck

They are the same.

I ran Superwinch hubs in my bronco. Never once had an issue with them. Always ease to lock and unlock, but not so easy that they unlocked on their own. I was very happy with them.

If I were you, I would run the stock ones until you have a free hour or two. I wouldn't leave them in there until one blew up on you. Basically what I am saying is, when you get the time change, otherwise don't worry about it. Unless, you are getting ready to go on a wheeling trip, then make the time.

Hefty · 11-01-2009, 08:17 AM

The stock spicer (Ford) locking huds are extremely strong. Don't swap until you break. I have blown up milemarker and warn hubs both in the past year. I'm on set #3 in a year. The Warns are much better than the MM's

**Shadofax** · 11-01-2009, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Hefty

The stock spicer (Ford) locking huds are extremely strong. Don't swap until you break. I have blown up milemarker and warn hubs both in the past year. I'm on set #3 in a year. The Warns are much better than the MM's

Hefty, the old stockers used in 70's trucks is what you're thinking of. Lots of cast steel as I recall, before they started looking for lighter materials.

I can post a pic of my ford manuals, and they are basically a warn standard, short turn dial, with some white plastic around the inside. I never broke them, but they aren't very strong I'd think with that plastic in the hub body (not just the dial).

I'd put the superwinch ones in there and keep these as a backup.

Macmillan1 · 11-01-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadofax

Hefty, the old stockers used in 70's trucks is what you're thinking of. Lots of cast steel as I recall, before they started looking for lighter materials.

I can post a pic of my ford manuals, and they are basically a warn standard, short turn dial, with some white plastic around the inside. I never broke them, but they aren't very strong I'd think with that plastic in the hub body (not just the dial).

I'd put the superwinch ones in there and keep these as a backup.

I have the same hubs, basically warn standards, they work fine but theyre a little hard to turn compared to the superwinch, the superwinch comes out as one piece also

**Shane C.** · 11-02-2009, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadofax

I'd put the superwinch ones in there and keep these as a backup.

X2

bigblueford · 11-02-2009, 12:51 PM

I just replaced my blown stock auto hubs with the Warn Premium Manuals. $89 isn't a bad price to pay to have 4 wheel drive back.

The first side took me an hour (wrestling with that !@#$ C-clip). The other side took me 2 1/2 minutes.

My wife is sticking with her factory manuals on her Bronco til they blow. They work even after 20 years.

Kalashnikov · 11-02-2009, 06:08 PM

Stock ones are warn ones. Only difference is the on epiece deal. They aren't THAT strong. I broke one before breaking anything else.

I have an old MM, one of the ones that turns 90*, and it seems better than the warns.
Similar to these (same turn dial):

http://store.4wheelingplus.com/image...eep-cj-hub.jpg

**Shadofax** · 11-02-2009, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Kalashnikov

Stock ones are warn ones. Only difference is the on epiece deal. They aren't THAT strong. I broke one before breaking anything else.

I have an old MM, one of the ones that turns 90*, and it seems better than the warns.
Similar to these (same turn dial):

http://store.4wheelingplus.com/image...eep-cj-hub.jpg

That's an external locking hub though.

They did make an internal locking hub that was all steel. There was a site on line still selling them and then about 2-3 yrs ago, they just stopped selling them. They were from MM as I recall and all steel, about as strong as you're going to get (in a dial vs. a plug that keeps the whole front end moving all the time). Wonder why they stopped selling them?

**f1fiddy** · 11-02-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadofax

I'd put the superwinch ones in there and keep these as a backup.

x3

I have been running warn premiums for 4 years with no issues, but I still have the old stockers for back up just in case.

You will be much happier swapping hubs in your garage or driveway than on the trail imo.

Kalashnikov · 11-02-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadofax

That's an external locking hub though.

They did make an internal locking hub that was all steel. There was a site on line still selling them and then about 2-3 yrs ago, they just stopped selling them. They were from MM as I recall and all steel, about as strong as you're going to get (in a dial vs. a plug that keeps the whole front end moving all the time). Wonder why they stopped selling them?

Yea, that was just an example of the styling cosmetics. Mine (figures I only have one) is the normal internal.

**Shadofax** · 11-02-2009, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by f1fiddy

x3

I have been running warn premiums for 4 years with no issues, but I still have the old stockers for back up just in case.

You will be much happier swapping hubs in your garage or driveway than on the trail imo.

yes, especially if you are pulling them on the trail because they are broke, maybe wedged in, maybe they scored other stuff up or ?? I look at it as putting your best foot forward, your "starters". Leave the lesser hubs on the bench as just in case backups.

**BroncoRN** · 11-07-2009, 10:10 PM

i switched to MM supreme hubs. Never had a problem with them...highly recommend.

Kalashnikov · 11-07-2009, 10:22 PM

I just looked at my hubs the other day and they are both arms, not the one MM and Warn. Could've sworn one was a MM.

XXLBRONCO · 11-08-2009, 01:28 AM

just run the stock, until they break then switch to the other set, then get a set of warn premium for the next backup set.

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Keep Stock Hubs	25	34.25%
Change to Superwinch lockouts	7	9.59%
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10-31-2009, 02:32 PM	#1
Macmillan1 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Allendale NJ Posts: 399 iTrader: (1) Bronco Info: 1996 eddie bauer, 351w, 6 inch lift 36" tsl's/78 bronco custom 400/4spd, all kinds of fun Macmillan1s Garage	Locking hubs opinions As of now i have the Stock set of locking hubs on my truck, BUT i have a set of Superwinch lockouts sitting in a box on a shelf, which do you guys think are better? or should i just save up my money for something like Warn Premiums? __________________ Mark

11-01-2009, 03:20 AM	#6
drinkbrew Registered User Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Indio, ca Posts: 761 iTrader: (1) Bronco Info: 96 XLT, 5.8 drinkbrews Garage	I switched to warn premiums right away since my stockers were already trashed, but I have heard way to many stories of the stock ones failing when they needed them. if you are going to keep you stock hub just make sure you carry your replacements and the tools you need to change them with you for when they do go out so you are not stranded. __________________ http://www.supermotors.org/users/drinkbrew 96 bronco xlt 5.8, pro-comp stage II 6" lift, M/T classic lock wheels, 35" BFG all terrains, k&n stage II FIPK, FlowTech headers, electric fan, MSD coil with mods, ford racing 9mm wires, MSD cap and rotor, warn premium manual hubs and more to come .

11-01-2009, 08:17 AM	#8
Hefty Need a Bumper? Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Monument, Colorado Posts: 4,264 iTrader: (14) Bronco Info: 93 Bronco 7in SAS 38's 4.56 and rear detroit front e-locker, 72 bronco under construction Heftys Garage	The stock spicer (Ford) locking huds are extremely strong. Don't swap until you break. I have blown up milemarker and warn hubs both in the past year. I'm on set #3 in a year. The Warns are much better than the MM's __________________ HeftyFabworks.com ---------ColoradoFullsize.com

11-02-2009, 12:51 PM	#12
bigblueford Registered User Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Pawnee National Grasslands, Nunn, Colorado Posts: 248 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1989 FSB 351/C6 (mine) 1990 FSB 302/AOD (hers) bigbluefords Garage	I just replaced my blown stock auto hubs with the Warn Premium Manuals. $89 isn't a bad price to pay to have 4 wheel drive back. The first side took me an hour (wrestling with that !@#$ C-clip). The other side took me 2 1/2 minutes. My wife is sticking with her factory manuals on her Bronco til they blow. They work even after 20 years. __________________

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10-31-2009, 02:39 PM	#2
Need4racin I See Georgia Join Date: May 2005 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,576 iTrader: (2) Bronco Info: 96 XLT 302/E4OD & 90 EB 302/AOD Need4racins Garage	The stock manual hubs will be fine.

10-31-2009, 05:39 PM	#3
Blasterway Registered User Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: NE PA Posts: 396 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1978 Bronco Ranger XLT 400 NP435 4 speed, NP205 "T"case. 2001 Ford Expedition XLT 5.4l stock Blasterways Garage	Keep the stock, if they go bad you already have a backup set.

10-31-2009, 08:55 PM	#4
Mudhound Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Eastern Kentucky, in the Red River Gorge area Posts: 515 iTrader: (1) Bronco Info: 84 BII, 87 Ranger STX, 89 FSB Mudhounds Garage	I agree. Run the installed ones UNTIL you blow one of them, THEN switch out the busted one. If the question had been " I have the Auto hubs on my FSB, and a set of Brand X manuals setting in a box, should I switch them?", the answer would have "Yes, switch them BEFORE they blow.".

11-01-2009, 12:29 AM	#5
jklaw13 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Washington Posts: 1 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1978 Bronco 400M, edelbrock intake and carb, crane RV cam and roller rockers, 6" James Duffy lift jklaw13s Garage	Warn or Mile Markers are sooo much easier to work with. They come out in one piece vs stock, a big when you need to repack bearings or change your rotor. I have no experience with Superwinch hubs but they are probably the same. Good Luck

11-02-2009, 06:08 PM	#13
Kalashnikov Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 804 iTrader: (4) Bronco Info: 94 F150 I6-E4OD 88 F350 7.5-ZF5 89 F350 7.5-C6 90 F350 7.5 95 F150 EB 5.8-E4OD 71 Kaiser M35A2 Kalashnikovs Garage	Stock ones are warn ones. Only difference is the on epiece deal. They aren't THAT strong. I broke one before breaking anything else. I have an old MM, one of the ones that turns 90, and it seems better than the warns. Similar to these (same turn dial): http://store.4wheelingplus.com/image...eep-cj-hub.jpg __________________ OFFROAD RECOVERY* Light-Medium Duty Trucks Servicing New England 95 F150 EB 5.8-E4OD 94 F150 XLT I6-E4OD 90 F350 XLT 7.5 89 F350 XLT 7.5-C6 88 F350 Custom 7.5-ZF5 88 Bronco EB 5.0-C6 RIP 71 Kaiser M35A2

11-07-2009, 10:10 PM	#18
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11-07-2009, 10:22 PM	#19
Kalashnikov Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Worcester, MA Posts: 804 iTrader: (4) Bronco Info: 94 F150 I6-E4OD 88 F350 7.5-ZF5 89 F350 7.5-C6 90 F350 7.5 95 F150 EB 5.8-E4OD 71 Kaiser M35A2 Kalashnikovs Garage	I just looked at my hubs the other day and they are both arms, not the one MM and Warn. Could've sworn one was a MM.

11-08-2009, 01:28 AM	#20
XXLBRONCO Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: tn Posts: 60 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 90 bronco 302, 6''with 3'' body, custom bumpers, t18 4spd, sitn on 42's sas in progress XXLBRONCOs Garage	just run the stock, until they break then switch to the other set, then get a set of warn premium for the next backup set.

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