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Old 12-05-2012, 12:23 PM   #1
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My 96 Bronco Question Thread

I wanted to have a central place to ask specific questions about my Bronco.

Up first:

How do I check the timing on the 96 model?
(I know how to check timing, spout connector, etc. There is no timing indicator that I can find on my 96.) I have searched and haven't found the answer that I'm looking for.

Update: Second Question:

Well it looks like my slave cylinder is leaking. So at this point I will replace the slave, clutch, pressure plate, flywheel(new or resurfaced) and rear main seal. Truck has just over 103,000 miles.

Questions: What clutch do you guys recommend? Is the late model mustang clutch the same? Any thing that I should think about upgrading over stock during this process? Does anyone make a upgraded clutch line? Saw someting about a 11" clutch upgrade, worth it, what parts?

I have searched and have done a lot of reading. I am not new to fords or mechanic work. Just looking for some advice on things that I might not have seen. Thanks for the help guys.

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Old 12-05-2012, 12:28 PM   #2
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Pull spout on drv side fender. Timin marks are on dampener just in front of misfire sensor wheel. I recommend going underneath and cleaning it up a bit. I actually took a pocket knife to clean up etchings. Then with motor running the timing mark ref bracket is bolted to pass side of dampener where the misfire sensor is.

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Old 12-05-2012, 01:05 PM   #3
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Ok, so it appears the person before me removed the timing pointer. I assume this is what it should look like(this is off a 94 351). Is it the same as below for the 96 5.0? Any ideas on where I can get one?

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Old 12-05-2012, 01:11 PM   #4
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I assume this is the part I need.

Does anyone know if the 5.8 bronco/f-150 and or 5.0 explorers will work?

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Ok, so it appears the person before me removed the timing pointer. I assume this is what it should look like(this is off a 94 351). Is it the same as below for the 96 5.0? Any ideas on where I can get one?

^^this picture is off of a 96 because of the crankshaft sensor

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I assume this is the part I need.

Does anyone know if the 5.8 bronco/f-150 and or 5.0 explorers will work?

that looks like my picture...........HA! It is!

Yes, 5.0 & 5.8 brackets are the same. I got one off of an Explorer when I needed one.
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Old 12-05-2012, 04:01 PM   #6
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LOL...that's funny. Thanks for the info. I will check around and see what I can come up with. Also, I went to check it out at lunch, and man, now I'm wondering how I would even see the pointer with the timing light. There is so much stuff in the way. I can't even see the crankshaft sensor from the top(tried multiple angles).
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Old 12-05-2012, 09:27 PM   #7
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LOL...that's funny. Thanks for the info. I will check around and see what I can come up with. Also, I went to check it out at lunch, and man, now I'm wondering how I would even see the pointer with the timing light. There is so much stuff in the way. I can't even see the crankshaft sensor from the top(tried multiple angles).
It's tough. Shine the pointer up as best as you can, and mark the balancer with a white crayon. I just timed my buddy's 96 F150 a couple weeks ago, in the dark. You just got to play with the angles, and make sure to stand clear of the fan. Ford's didn't make this too easy.
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Old 12-06-2012, 01:21 PM   #8
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Well I was finally able to do some inspection. Turns out I do have the pointer (awesome!). There was no way to see it from the top. Also, I discovered that the wiring loom and bracket that carries the crank position sensor harness, is the reason I couldn't see the timing pointer or balancer. I rerouted the harness to a safe and out of the way location. I can now see the timing pointer and balancer. I will do the timing check this weekend. Also, I like to use sand stone when marking the balancer. Thanks for the help.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:57 AM   #9
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Updated new question in first post...thank you!
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Old 02-19-2013, 11:07 AM   #10
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M5OD Clutch System Description & Operation, Diagnosis & Testing, Removal & Installation, Cleaning & Inspection, Adjustments, Specifications & Special Service Tools & Equipment
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I like your idea of having just one thread for your Truck but it might help you if you added new questions as they come up to the end post.

I will assume that questions in the first post were already answered and I am guessing that most others will too.

Also once your thread starts getting to be several pages long most people won't start reading at the beginning of the Thread, they will just start at the end and see what is going on and work backwards from there to get up to speed. At least that is what I do since there are thousands of threads on here and reading some of them all the way through takes a considerable amount of time.

Just my thoughts, do it however you want, just trying to help.

Wish more guys would have just one thread for their questions and honestly I wish I had done that in the beginning.

I usually read something that is similar to mine and piggyback onto someone else's thread with my question.
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Old 02-19-2013, 07:15 PM   #13
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^^this picture is off of a 96 because of the crankshaft sensor



that looks like my picture...........HA! It is!

Yes, 5.0 & 5.8 brackets are the same. I got one off of an Explorer when I needed one.
Haha yeah well that is my picture of my leaking timing cover that I spluged silicone on the night before we went to Tahoe to the Rubicon, and it is off my '96 5.8. I pulled the motor and sealed up all the leaks since then and she looks pretty again. That cover on the misfire/crankshaft sensor is the pointer and bolts to the corner of the timing cover. I just cleaned my harmonic/vibration damper off with parts wash and used liquid paper to mark 10*BTDC and it has stayed on for well over a year now.....lol. God that picture is ugly, of course I did it at about 11 pm hoping to stop the very, very, slight trickle of coolant that was actually pooling over onto the top of the timing cover and leaching down along the block/cover. Took forever to finally pin it down....
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^^this picture is off of a 96 because of the crankshaft sensor



that looks like my picture...........HA! It is!

Yes, 5.0 & 5.8 brackets are the same. I got one off of an Explorer when I needed one.
They may be the same on the '95's but they are exclusive on '96 5.8 only, as far as changing mounting location to the lower right corner of the timing cover as compared to earlier years and the misfire sensor, which is what they call them in '96 has both pieces tack welded to the sensor cover like in my picture. One is the flat one that you actually use to reference the timing mark (use the flat side to the right when looking at it) and the one along the flat front side with the circle on it........you can't use an Explorer one on a '96 5.8 though......no offense just fyi..... -Kevin-
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:12 PM   #15
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I like your idea of having just one thread for your Truck but it might help you if you added new questions as they come up to the end post.

I will assume that questions in the first post were already answered and I am guessing that most others will too.

Also once your thread starts getting to be several pages long most people won't start reading at the beginning of the Thread, they will just start at the end and see what is going on and work backwards from there to get up to speed. At least that is what I do since there are thousands of threads on here and reading some of them all the way through takes a considerable amount of time.

Just my thoughts, do it however you want, just trying to help.

Wish more guys would have just one thread for their questions and honestly I wish I had done that in the beginning.

I usually read something that is similar to mine and piggyback onto someone else's thread with my question.
Yeah. I was gonna try it out that way. What I may do is post the new question in the last post and update the first as well. That way if someone is interested they read the last post and my go back to the first post to see all the topics covered in this thread.
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Update: Second Question:

Well it looks like my slave cylinder is leaking. So at this point I will replace the slave, clutch, pressure plate, flywheel(new or resurfaced) and rear main seal. Truck has just over 103,000 miles.

Questions: What clutch do you guys recommend? Is the late model mustang clutch the same? Any thing that I should think about upgrading over stock during this process? Does anyone make a upgraded clutch line? Saw someting about a 11" clutch upgrade, worth it, what parts?

I have searched and have done a lot of reading. I am not new to fords or mechanic work. Just looking for some advice on things that I might not have seen. Thanks for the help guys
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:22 PM   #17
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Thanks for the links. Also, want to know thoughts on specific brands. I checked a few sources and they list the bronco with an 11" clutch. So that means that the mustang 10.5" clutch won't work. Anyone know different?
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Old 02-21-2013, 04:23 PM   #18
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I plan to do the shifter repair, while I'm at it.

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Friends use and like the LuK PRO GOLD PERFORMANCE 07-909
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Related Clutch System Components
Component Part Number Qualifier
Master Cylinder LMC177 LMC177
Slave Cylinder LSC003 LSC003 Bearing not included
Slave Cylinder LSC003B LSC003B Release Bearing & Slave Cylinder Combination
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Release Bearing, Do Not Lubricate in a 96; "...The release bearing and pre-lubricated internal slave cylinder are designed to operate without any additional lubrication. Do not lubricate these parts during installation. Doing so may cause premature failure..."
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Release Bearing Installation Procedure; "...The slave cylinder you remove from the vehicle will appear similar to one of the two original-equipment designs shown below. This procedure provides instruction for bearing installation on slave cylinders that include a spring boot assembly and plastic spacer. The slave cylinder is now ready for installation. Remove the slave cylinder spring from the boot assembly, discarding the rubber boot, release bearing and plastic spacer. Seat the new release bearing assembly on the slavecylinder spring and install the assembly on the slave cylinder. Press down on the bearing to install the new retaining ring, included in the clutch set. Press down on the bearing to remove the retaining ring and two washers. Discard the ring and washers. Remove the bearing, spring boot assembly and plastic spacer..."
Source: by lukclutch.com
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Have a std clutch slave got from napa. Made in Mexico. Flywheel from napa Sachs made in china. Slave clutch went with dealer sealed unit. Pilot is timken from summit new pressure plate bolts. Also re sealed input cover on tranny with new input seal which comes out backwards.
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