which headers?

kyle7683 · 12-30-2012, 03:26 PM

Looking into buying shorty headers for my 86 302. Im just not sure on what brand will definitely and wanted to get some feedback on what to buy and what not to buy.
Thanks
Kyle

**JBfab** · 12-30-2012, 04:43 PM

BBK's are good so are bassanni's. ive had a good run with a set of mac's for a stang but required a custom y pipe. What ever you get spring the extra dough on the ceramic coating and a locking bolt set. Nothing beats a good looking header for years to come.

**buffaloroams** · 12-30-2012, 05:33 PM

X2 on the Ceramic coating, I used the Allen head bolts for mine.
Much easier to wrench on with clearance issues with standard hex bolts.

I heard of some guys complain about fitment issues with some brands but I went with Bassani because I never saw anyone complain about fitment issues on any of the forums I was searching. They cost a little more but I was extremely pleased with fit, quality and sound.

If you are on a tight budget I would just use factory exhaust manifolds as there is little performance difference.

Steve83 · 12-30-2012, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JBfab

Nothing beats a good looking header for years to come.

Spending that money on something that actually helps the truck run well certainly does!

Chrome don't get ya home.

Remember this thread?
http://fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216262

TS 90F150 · 12-30-2012, 06:34 PM

I have ran factory mustang (fox body) headers on my F150 when the engine was a stock 302. I was very pleased with the gains from them and they held up just fine. I have never had any issues with headers once installed on any of my vehicles.

The factory mustang headers would be cheap but may require a different/modifications to your existing y or h/x pipe.

hth
tim

**JBfab** · 12-30-2012, 07:08 PM

Chrome deff dont get you home but rusted headers after a week is anouther story. For the extra 60 bucks its well worth it. And i bought mine 8 years ago for $130 and they still look good. Any painted header would have rusted threw by now esp in my area.

**buffaloroams** · 12-30-2012, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve83

Spending that money on something that actually helps the truck run well certainly does!

Chrome don't get ya home.

Remember this thread?
http://fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=216262

Good point.
I realize that people need to search more but this issue is constantly coming up.
Be nice to have a tech thread that just deals with all these commonly asked header/exhaust questions.

kyle7683 · 12-31-2012, 08:07 PM

I was leaning towards the summit headers only because I don't want to break the bank. Anybody ever run these before?

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fdtdx18 · 01-01-2013, 01:02 AM

I run the summits right now. Tey work well if you have a free flowing exhaust behind them. The stock y pipe is crap behind it and in my opinion, makes buying the headers a waste of money. Also, after the 1st or 2nd time you get the truck to operating temp, you can kiss the paint on them goodbye. But for the money, I'm happy with them

V8Ranger · 01-01-2013, 10:14 AM

I just ordered a set of the Summit / Pace shorty headers, ceramic coated for my 96 5.8. I'll post some pics when I get them.

Carl

tyrant1k · 01-01-2013, 10:17 AM

Don't forget the locking header bolts you don't want to do your gaskets twice..

kyle7683 · 01-01-2013, 10:59 AM

Now what's the best way to get out a broken stud or nut? That's the only thing I'm worried about when thinking about the headers

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THOROUGHBRED · 01-01-2013, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fdtdx18

I run the summits right now. Tey work well if you have a free flowing exhaust behind them. The stock y pipe is crap behind it and in my opinion, makes buying the headers a waste of money. Also, after the 1st or 2nd time you get the truck to operating temp, you can kiss the paint on them goodbye. But for the money, I'm happy with them

x2

fdtdx18 · 01-01-2013, 11:38 AM

Another I forgot about the summits, I'd suggested upgrading to a thicker felpro gasket instead of the gasket that comes with them. I used the ones that come with it and its damn near impossible to get it to seal properly and not leak.

V8Ranger · 01-01-2013, 01:06 PM

I always had pretty good luck with Felpro Ultraseal header gaskets.

Carl

SamsRX7 · 01-01-2013, 01:28 PM

Stay away from Cheap such as Thrusher. A year later you will be replacing them

kyle7683 · 01-01-2013, 06:14 PM

I was planning on getting the mr gasket ultra seal gaskets. How well do the summit line up with the stock y pipe. Im planning on using that for now until I get enough money to either have a custom y pipe made up or go for the bassani.

89Heaver · 01-02-2013, 09:41 AM

do yourself the best favor you can and get Remflex gaskets.....you will thank me as i have thanked people from here who told me to get them

kyle7683 · 01-02-2013, 10:05 AM

Ok will do but how well do the summit headers line up with the stock y pipe?

kyle7683 · 01-03-2013, 10:46 PM

Bump

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12-30-2012, 03:26 PM	#1
kyle7683 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 175 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1986 bronco, EFI 302, 4x4, a/t tires, 2" lift	which headers? Looking into buying shorty headers for my 86 302. Im just not sure on what brand will definitely and wanted to get some feedback on what to buy and what not to buy. Thanks Kyle __________________ 1986 Ford Bronco XLT, 302 EFI, 31in A/Ts., 2" lift, American Flag license plates

12-30-2012, 04:43 PM	#2
JBfab Fullsize Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Emerald, PA Posts: 1,979 iTrader: (8) Bronco Info: 94 C150, 351/zf,5"lift,35" xterains,flow40, mac headers,sag swap, elec fan, 4WDB	BBK's are good so are bassanni's. ive had a good run with a set of mac's for a stang but required a custom y pipe. What ever you get spring the extra dough on the ceramic coating and a locking bolt set. Nothing beats a good looking header for years to come. __________________ It's not custom if you bought it from a catalog! Visit my build thread- http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/...d.php?t=211825

12-30-2012, 05:33 PM	#3
buffaloroams Man with a Golden ticket Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Battle Ground Posts: 3,764 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 96 blackout XLT Sport 5.8L E4OD, 4" Rancho w/ 35" MTR's	X2 on the Ceramic coating, I used the Allen head bolts for mine. Much easier to wrench on with clearance issues with standard hex bolts. I heard of some guys complain about fitment issues with some brands but I went with Bassani because I never saw anyone complain about fitment issues on any of the forums I was searching. They cost a little more but I was extremely pleased with fit, quality and sound. If you are on a tight budget I would just use factory exhaust manifolds as there is little performance difference. __________________ You just might be a redneck if you start a conversation with: "happened to us when Dad got pinched by the feds." - Biker Pepe' -

12-30-2012, 07:08 PM	#6
JBfab Fullsize Member Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Emerald, PA Posts: 1,979 iTrader: (8) Bronco Info: 94 C150, 351/zf,5"lift,35" xterains,flow40, mac headers,sag swap, elec fan, 4WDB	Chrome deff dont get you home but rusted headers after a week is anouther story. For the extra 60 bucks its well worth it. And i bought mine 8 years ago for $130 and they still look good. Any painted header would have rusted threw by now esp in my area. __________________ It's not custom if you bought it from a catalog! Visit my build thread- http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/...d.php?t=211825

12-31-2012, 08:07 PM	#8
kyle7683 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 175 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1986 bronco, EFI 302, 4x4, a/t tires, 2" lift	I was leaning towards the summit headers only because I don't want to break the bank. Anybody ever run these before? Sent from my iPhone using AutoGuide.com App __________________ 1986 Ford Bronco XLT, 302 EFI, 31in A/Ts., 2" lift, American Flag license plates

12-30-2012, 06:34 PM	#5
TS 90F150 Registered User Join Date: May 2009 Location: Upstate SC Posts: 940 iTrader: (4) Bronco Info: 1990 F150	I have ran factory mustang (fox body) headers on my F150 when the engine was a stock 302. I was very pleased with the gains from them and they held up just fine. I have never had any issues with headers once installed on any of my vehicles. The factory mustang headers would be cheap but may require a different/modifications to your existing y or h/x pipe. hth tim

01-01-2013, 01:02 AM	#9
fdtdx18 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: edgemoor delaware Posts: 189 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1993 custom 302, flowmaster super 10, interco tsl's 33x12.5x15, rancho rs5000's, summit shortys	I run the summits right now. Tey work well if you have a free flowing exhaust behind them. The stock y pipe is crap behind it and in my opinion, makes buying the headers a waste of money. Also, after the 1st or 2nd time you get the truck to operating temp, you can kiss the paint on them goodbye. But for the money, I'm happy with them

01-01-2013, 10:14 AM	#10
V8Ranger Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Merritt Island, FL Posts: 79 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1996 5.8 EB, 33's	I just ordered a set of the Summit / Pace shorty headers, ceramic coated for my 96 5.8. I'll post some pics when I get them. Carl __________________ The wife left a note on the fridge... "It's not working, I can't take it anymore! Gone to stay with my Mother" I opened the fridge, the light came on and the beer was cold........ What the hell is she talking about?

01-01-2013, 10:17 AM	#11
tyrant1k Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Jacksonville, FL Posts: 84 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 94',1 Ton leaf SAS, 10.25 Rear, 37" Good Year Military take off's, EFI 460	Don't forget the locking header bolts you don't want to do your gaskets twice..

01-01-2013, 10:59 AM	#12
kyle7683 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 175 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1986 bronco, EFI 302, 4x4, a/t tires, 2" lift	Now what's the best way to get out a broken stud or nut? That's the only thing I'm worried about when thinking about the headers Sent from my iPhone using AutoGuide.com App __________________ 1986 Ford Bronco XLT, 302 EFI, 31in A/Ts., 2" lift, American Flag license plates

01-01-2013, 11:38 AM	#14
fdtdx18 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: edgemoor delaware Posts: 189 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1993 custom 302, flowmaster super 10, interco tsl's 33x12.5x15, rancho rs5000's, summit shortys	Another I forgot about the summits, I'd suggested upgrading to a thicker felpro gasket instead of the gasket that comes with them. I used the ones that come with it and its damn near impossible to get it to seal properly and not leak.

01-01-2013, 01:06 PM	#15
V8Ranger Registered User Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Merritt Island, FL Posts: 79 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1996 5.8 EB, 33's	I always had pretty good luck with Felpro Ultraseal header gaskets. Carl __________________ The wife left a note on the fridge... "It's not working, I can't take it anymore! Gone to stay with my Mother" I opened the fridge, the light came on and the beer was cold........ What the hell is she talking about?

01-01-2013, 01:28 PM	#16
SamsRX7 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 7 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 87 Bronco XLT Eddie 5.slow	Stay away from Cheap such as Thrusher. A year later you will be replacing them

01-01-2013, 06:14 PM	#17
kyle7683 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 175 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1986 bronco, EFI 302, 4x4, a/t tires, 2" lift	I was planning on getting the mr gasket ultra seal gaskets. How well do the summit line up with the stock y pipe. Im planning on using that for now until I get enough money to either have a custom y pipe made up or go for the bassani. __________________ 1986 Ford Bronco XLT, 302 EFI, 31in A/Ts., 2" lift, American Flag license plates

01-02-2013, 09:41 AM	#18
89Heaver Registered User Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: ny Posts: 112 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 89xlt 5.8l c6	do yourself the best favor you can and get Remflex gaskets.....you will thank me as i have thanked people from here who told me to get them __________________ 89 xlt, 351w, C6, 355 gears, F250 front coils. Duratrac 33x12.5x15. 3G upgrade. My first one

01-02-2013, 10:05 AM	#19
kyle7683 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 175 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1986 bronco, EFI 302, 4x4, a/t tires, 2" lift	Ok will do but how well do the summit headers line up with the stock y pipe? __________________ 1986 Ford Bronco XLT, 302 EFI, 31in A/Ts., 2" lift, American Flag license plates

01-03-2013, 10:46 PM	#20
kyle7683 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Dirty Jersey Posts: 175 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 1986 bronco, EFI 302, 4x4, a/t tires, 2" lift	Bump Sent from my iPhone using AutoGuide.com App __________________ 1986 Ford Bronco XLT, 302 EFI, 31in A/Ts., 2" lift, American Flag license plates

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