RAttling Sound

BeatNursery · 02-26-2013, 05:29 PM

I have checked everything that is attached to the serpentine belt and replaced all worn parts. I have recently had my transmission rebuilt. Had to take it back to the shop because the first time they put a shitty torque converter in it (so they say). The same shop also did my rear diff. (which also is still whinning.) I pulled codes and from the best that I can tell they were :

28 VAT sensor out of self test range.

86 3&4 Shift solenoid circuit failure.

62 Converter clutch error (E4OD).

86 Adaptive fuel limit reached.

28 Loss of IDM, right side.

When I rev engine to about 1500 rpm this grinding sounds (maybe like bad bearings) radiates through the truck. The shop claims it is the exhaust. Its original and is entirely possible. However, This rattling only happens when I'm in drive. Not reverse or neutral. I can't afford to replace exhaust at this point after dropping a huge chunk of change on the tranny and diff. Please help.

eatsrottenflesh · 02-26-2013, 06:41 PM

you said you checked everything by the belt, makes me think the noise is coming from the front. try removing the belt and see if the noise persists. if nothing else it helps eliminate any pulley. as far as the codes, a few of those pertain to the trans, like the trans shop didnt clear the codes or theres still a problem in the trans, try clearing the codes (disconnecting the battery for a bit) and see what returns. if the exhaust rattles its generally a heat shield or the guts in the cat have broken loose the high tech way to check is to punch the exhaust and listen for the noise. hope that helps

eatsrottenflesh · 02-26-2013, 06:41 PM

p.s. check your diff fluid level

**jermil01** · 02-26-2013, 07:42 PM

get a mechanics stethescope or use a short piece of garden hose to see if you can isolate the noise..

also you should be getting 3 digit codes not 2.

and find yourself a new shop..

BeatNursery · 03-01-2013, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jermil01

get a mechanics stethescope or use a short piece of garden hose to see if you can isolate the noise..

also you should be getting 3 digit codes not 2.

and find yourself a new shop..

I am going to post a video of the codes I pulled.. I am definitely not pro at reading these codes. The rattles only happen at 1500 rpm and in drive... If I hit the brake and hit the gas at the same time I can usually recreate this phenomenon. Not sure that I want to sit under the truck to listen for this while that process happens.

BeatNursery · 03-01-2013, 02:31 PM

here are the codes I videoed ChaCha spitting out at me...

http://youtu.be/tKvHNnel4Wc

**jermil01** · 03-01-2013, 02:44 PM

says the video is still being processed.

BeatNursery · 03-01-2013, 02:52 PM

New link posted up.. and its done processing.

BeatNursery · 03-01-2013, 02:57 PM

Should be solid now...

**jermil01** · 03-01-2013, 03:05 PM

I'm getting 111 which is system passed at the beginning then the Continuous Memory code is

628 - Converter clutch Lock-Up error (E4OD)

**bigTXbronco** · 03-01-2013, 03:34 PM

Engine... Rebuilt too? Stock? Got a cam? Know anything about the torque converter? Stall? With the symptoms you describe, noises you hear, location of them and the code you are throwing I would blame the torque converter. I've had a ballooned torque converter with these same symptoms.

BeatNursery · 03-01-2013, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigTXbronco

Engine... Rebuilt too? Stock? Got a cam? Know anything about the torque converter? Stall? With the symptoms you describe, noises you hear, location of them and the code you are throwing I would blame the torque converter. I've had a ballooned torque converter with these same symptoms.

Nothing done to the engine (yet). Everything is stock so far except for the Punisher valve body I had them put on the trans. I dont know what kind of torque converter they used but if it is the TC then I hope the third time is a charm. Maybe I should drive to Houston...

Cantflysolo · 03-03-2013, 03:29 AM

I also have the rattling down low. It is the exhaust, we narrowed it down to the stupid shield. I have a laundry list of stuff to do on my bko so that will get fixed later. But I would check your exhaust over good, if it's original it is gonna start happening. I had two of the original hangers break in the first week that I bought it. Sucked but I knew what I was getting into and enjoy fixing stuff...

BeatNursery · 03-07-2013, 02:47 AM

Yeah... I found a muffler shop to do a High flow cat and a new muffler. Shes going to be a bit louder. Hopefully no rattle. Im going to try and get them to use 3" pipes.

02-26-2013, 05:29 PM	#1
BeatNursery Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 65 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 93 Ford Bronco Eddie Bauer 5.0, E40D, with a bad attitude and a drinking problem...	RAttling Sound I have checked everything that is attached to the serpentine belt and replaced all worn parts. I have recently had my transmission rebuilt. Had to take it back to the shop because the first time they put a shitty torque converter in it (so they say). The same shop also did my rear diff. (which also is still whinning.) I pulled codes and from the best that I can tell they were : 28 VAT sensor out of self test range. 86 3&4 Shift solenoid circuit failure. 62 Converter clutch error (E4OD). 86 Adaptive fuel limit reached. 28 Loss of IDM, right side. When I rev engine to about 1500 rpm this grinding sounds (maybe like bad bearings) radiates through the truck. The shop claims it is the exhaust. Its original and is entirely possible. However, This rattling only happens when I'm in drive. Not reverse or neutral. I can't afford to replace exhaust at this point after dropping a huge chunk of change on the tranny and diff. Please help. Last edited by BeatNursery; 02-26-2013 at 05:30 PM. Reason: Codes: The duplicate codes are simply the options based on the number the comp spits out. And were taken KOEO.

02-26-2013, 07:42 PM	#4
jermil01 Charlie doesn't surf!! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: JAX, FLA Posts: 10,325 iTrader: (31) Bronco Info: 1992 xlt, 351EFI, .040, E40D, D44 SAS w/Trutrac, Detroit locked 8.8, MAF conv, Tweecer tuned..	get a mechanics stethescope or use a short piece of garden hose to see if you can isolate the noise.. also you should be getting 3 digit codes not 2. and find yourself a new shop.. __________________ Vote 4 Top 4x4 Site!!!

03-01-2013, 02:31 PM	#6
BeatNursery Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 65 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 93 Ford Bronco Eddie Bauer 5.0, E40D, with a bad attitude and a drinking problem...	Codes here are the codes I videoed ChaCha spitting out at me... http://youtu.be/tKvHNnel4Wc Last edited by BeatNursery; 03-01-2013 at 02:32 PM. Reason: Chimp like wording.

03-01-2013, 02:44 PM	#7
jermil01 Charlie doesn't surf!! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: JAX, FLA Posts: 10,325 iTrader: (31) Bronco Info: 1992 xlt, 351EFI, .040, E40D, D44 SAS w/Trutrac, Detroit locked 8.8, MAF conv, Tweecer tuned..	says the video is still being processed. __________________ Vote 4 Top 4x4 Site!!!

03-01-2013, 02:52 PM	#8
BeatNursery Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 65 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 93 Ford Bronco Eddie Bauer 5.0, E40D, with a bad attitude and a drinking problem...	opps New link posted up.. and its done processing.

02-26-2013, 06:41 PM	#2
eatsrottenflesh Registered User Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: De Kalb,IL Posts: 180 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 93 5.8 stock...for now	you said you checked everything by the belt, makes me think the noise is coming from the front. try removing the belt and see if the noise persists. if nothing else it helps eliminate any pulley. as far as the codes, a few of those pertain to the trans, like the trans shop didnt clear the codes or theres still a problem in the trans, try clearing the codes (disconnecting the battery for a bit) and see what returns. if the exhaust rattles its generally a heat shield or the guts in the cat have broken loose the high tech way to check is to punch the exhaust and listen for the noise. hope that helps

03-01-2013, 02:57 PM	#9
BeatNursery Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 65 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 93 Ford Bronco Eddie Bauer 5.0, E40D, with a bad attitude and a drinking problem...	Should be solid now...

03-01-2013, 03:05 PM	#10
jermil01 Charlie doesn't surf!! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: JAX, FLA Posts: 10,325 iTrader: (31) Bronco Info: 1992 xlt, 351EFI, .040, E40D, D44 SAS w/Trutrac, Detroit locked 8.8, MAF conv, Tweecer tuned..	I'm getting 111 which is system passed at the beginning then the Continuous Memory code is 628 - Converter clutch Lock-Up error (E4OD) __________________ Vote 4 Top 4x4 Site!!!

03-01-2013, 03:34 PM	#11
bigTXbronco always evolving Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Spring, TX Posts: 1,292 iTrader: (36) Bronco Info: BIG mud truck and then some (96 5.8, 4 linked/sas'd)	Engine... Rebuilt too? Stock? Got a cam? Know anything about the torque converter? Stall? With the symptoms you describe, noises you hear, location of them and the code you are throwing I would blame the torque converter. I've had a ballooned torque converter with these same symptoms. __________________ Local to Houston? Need an off-road shop for some custom work? One stop shop... Ask me for info.

03-03-2013, 03:29 AM	#13
Cantflysolo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Eau Claire, Wisconsin Posts: 75 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: '94 XL 5.0	I also have the rattling down low. It is the exhaust, we narrowed it down to the stupid shield. I have a laundry list of stuff to do on my bko so that will get fixed later. But I would check your exhaust over good, if it's original it is gonna start happening. I had two of the original hangers break in the first week that I bought it. Sucked but I knew what I was getting into and enjoy fixing stuff...

03-07-2013, 02:47 AM	#14
BeatNursery Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Dallas Posts: 65 iTrader: (0) Bronco Info: 93 Ford Bronco Eddie Bauer 5.0, E40D, with a bad attitude and a drinking problem...	exhaust Yeah... I found a muffler shop to do a High flow cat and a new muffler. Shes going to be a bit louder. Hopefully no rattle. Im going to try and get them to use 3" pipes.

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