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Old 11-05-2006, 01:14 AM   #1
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4.9 carb to efi swap

well i got the donor truck today. now for the fun and rip it apart. the tranny turned out to be a mazda not the zf but that is still ok. here is the truck as i got it.

she was hit real hard in the back end.


you can see the torn shackle. it was fun towing her home. get over 40 and she weaved all over the place. i used a few tie downsto lock the body to the tow dolly. i post as i go got alot stripped down tonight but the sun went down and i ran out of daylight for the camra. here is the new heart for my 1983 bronco.

i update as i go and if i get it going i do a writeup on this since i was not able to find any. if you have done this where did you instal the computer? just cut the firewall and put in the stock location? if you have any pictures please post or send them or the link to me. this looks easier than i thought at first. but famous last words. i got the tranny bolts and the motor mount bolts to remove then the motor is comming out. i found the front motor bracket but none for the rear was there one? or just use a bolt in the head or block?...mike

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Old 11-05-2006, 01:50 AM   #2
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Sweet Swap!!! I love straight sixes that are mated to manual transmissions. What happened to the donor truck? Good luck on an excellent swap.

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Old 11-05-2006, 12:13 PM   #3
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Keep us posted on the details of the swap. I have access to a 87 donor truck, w/an EFI L6 and a truck 5 spd.
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Old 11-05-2006, 02:22 PM   #4
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this has the mazda 5 speed so it will not follow the motor. i got to start posting parts for sale so i can get this done. i just degreased the motor the 1st time......more updates later
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Old 11-05-2006, 11:11 PM   #5
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ok-it was another busy day. here is the 4.9 efi ready to come out.

here is the motor out and on the stand.

here it is after the 2nd bath.

here is the front after bath 2

here is the 5 speed. after a fast bath. out and onto the for sale list.

here is the front end all stripped. no heaterbox, steering box, computer and motor.

it is not a ZF it is the M5od. i post more in the next day or so....mike

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Old 11-06-2006, 12:22 AM   #6
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Right on. Good thread. I am getting ready to pull an EFI 460 from an F250, so this is helping alot. Post up if you run into any problems. I'd appreciate it!

Awesome work! Keep it up!
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Old 11-06-2006, 02:01 AM   #7
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OH NO! ! ! My truck won't be unique any more! :




Good luck with it.

This photo is really interesting, from an engineering point of view. The failure looks odd at first glance, but after a moment of thinking about it, it makes sense.
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Old 11-06-2006, 02:26 AM   #8
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the car was a porche and it lifted the bed abd slammed right into the rear tire o the full load of inpact was the shackle bolt. you can the see the spring just bent away after the bolt broke...

i hope this swap goes as easy as it is looking at this point. i looked the efi block over and the mechanical clutch boss is there and is threaded and waiting for my clutch. i found both motor mount were torn apart and different than my current ones. thes look like body bushings.......i will keep updating as i go.....mike

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...the mechanical clutch boss is there and is threaded...
That's odd. On my '95 4.9L, I had to drill & tap that boss. Those threads are specific to pre-'84 mechanical clutch equalizers, so there was no reason for Ford to drill/tap them after that year.
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i found both motor mount were torn apart and different than my current ones. thes look like body bushings.
They're supposed to be filled with silicone oil, but they always leak. Just bolt normal '83 mounts to the block.
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Old 11-11-2006, 12:32 AM   #10
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please ditch that 2G alt! and those "hydrolic" motor mounts are terrible. good thing i have some custom made ones coming into my possession soon :-D

awsome thread, hope to see some updates.
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Old 11-11-2006, 12:22 PM   #11
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here is todays update. Yes as soon as the motor is in the truck running i be installing my 3G in the new motor. I know it ran in the configuration and do not want to play withthe belts right now. that is an easy swap and i willnot be connecting the 2G alt. i get pictures of the clutch mount as soon as i can start on the motor next weekend (weater allowing) the cast number show 1992. i plan on getting new 1983 style mounts and oil pump and main seal and clutch system.
here was my son removing the bed bolts.

the bed is now off.

here is the cab all torn down (going for a rock crawler project)




that is all since the rain is here today. i wait and see if it allows any more work...mike

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Old 11-11-2006, 05:24 PM   #12
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If that bed is in reasonably good shape, it's worth some money. Don't trash it. I've sold virtually every scrap from the '88 F150 I used in the '75 Bronco project (which I expect to get back & finish soon) and I only have a few chunks left from my '96 Bronco. If you have the storage space & patience, you can sell almost all of it.
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:07 AM   #13
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ok this will be the last of the donor truck and the next steps after this post will be getting the efi ready to go in and running.
ok the rear gas tank is out and readt to chop the frame to get rid of it. i posted it for a week and no one wanted one.

here is the frame with the rear end cut out. i love the plasma cutter made fast easy work of chopping the frame.

i chopped the the rear cab mount as the cab is going onto another bronco frame as a rock crawler project.

now chopped the the frnt end.
i going to remove the rivets and clen these and sell for a shackle flip for someone.

well i think this is only good for inside parts or if someone wants to replace the tubes it might work again. it did not look this bent in the truck.

here is the front end -i remove the parts and sell off.

here s the pile going to scrap.

the next set of pictures will be of the motor prep and bronco prep for the swap.

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Old 11-15-2006, 02:09 AM   #14
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One word on those "scrap" leaf springs: crossbow. 'Nuff sed.
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Old 12-19-2006, 07:44 PM   #15
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update-----i still healing and the doctor said i should not yet do any part of this swap yet. so i update where i am at. i got the donor motor on the stand waiting for the new oil pump (just to be sure easy to swap since i am there. it had good pressure before i pulled it) oil pan gasket, main seal and the pilot bearing,clutch. pressure plate, throw out bearing and the 1983 style motor mounts. i got the under the hood harness mostly figured out and going to lay out the under the dash harness and get ready to mount it as soon as the doctor says i can and will not hurt my back anymore. (the family and i were rear ended in a 4 car crash but a drunk driver driving on a suspended license without insurance. my daughter and i were sent to the hospital in an ambulence ride. this happened Nov 16th. i still in alot of mid back pain the neck and lower back are almost back to normal but i still fighting a head ach on and off since the wreck. They said the damage to the van exceeded $10000 and scrapped it as non-repairable. I tried to find a 4 door bronco for the family but all were on the east coast or texas and too far away. i working out the last deals on a 1993 suburban 4x4 as the tow - family vehicle). i post more updates as they come and i hope they come faster. i sure do miss the bronco and hate seeing the old girl sitting waiting for the transplant......mike
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Old 02-02-2007, 11:56 PM   #16
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ok---good news doctor said i can now start doing things again. well i been working on wiring harness. lots of fun.
rear harness with dual fuel tanks.

i removed what was not needed.

under the hood harness all opened up.

harness all fixed

Aux relay/ fuse panel

under the dash wiring

i picked up an ignition module for the drivers fender.

i update more soon. i hoping this goes real fast now...mike

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Old 02-03-2007, 02:09 PM   #17
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LOL - My wife would have choked me in my sleep had I put dirt car parts on 'her' dinning room table!

You sure your back is still bad from the accident!?

Looks like it's going well so far!
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Old 02-17-2007, 02:50 AM   #18
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ok-this was a good week. i got the new 3 1/2" efi high presure fuel tank.

new oil pump.



pan gasket.

motor mounts








Clutch kit









I hoping to get this installed this weekend...mike

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Old 03-02-2007, 02:22 AM   #19
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ok- time to move forward. i washed the fuel tank and undercoated the bottom of the tank to protect from rust. here it is drying. i flip and do the top side in the am.






after cleaning the motor real good it was no wonder why there was an oil leak.
you can see the pan gasket squezed out in many places.

it is out here too. this is the hole for the manual clutch assembly.

I looking ahead and the alt mount is 10-3 but it allows 12-6 as well so i will swap pullies

i continue to update as i go. Mike

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The 12-6 holes are for the 130A alt. I just bolted one onto my engine - no pulley swapping.
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