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post #1 of 44 (permalink) Old 09-30-2008, 12:42 PM Thread Starter
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Unbelievable.

It seems like my truck is falling apart.

I understand vehicles need maintenance...but this truck is getting out of control. I am going to vent a bit.

A few months ago I discovered tranny fluid leaking from my front seal, between the transfer case and tranny. Aamco charged me 650 bucks to re do the front and rear seal, put in a new filter, and new fluid.

A week later after washing it, I tried starting it at the car wash and it was dead. I had a friend come jump it, and I drove it home. Tried it right away again, and it was deader then hell. Had my battery tested, and found it was bad. Replaced it for 100 bucks. Luckily my alternator wasn't bad.

A few days later my truck started giving me major ideling problems. It was dying occasionally at lights, and while driving and letting off the throttle, the RPM"s would drop down almost killing the truck. My check engine light came on and I found out it was the MAF. I cleaned it and the problem went away.

A few weeks ago I found a bad antifreeze/coolant leak under my truck. I traced it back to what I think is the water pump. I checked all the hoses, and thermostat and didn't see any signs of leakage. I am hoping it is the water pump and not a head gasket. I am still cruising with the leak now because I don't have the money to fix it.

I managed to pull the money together for my new 33's last week because my tires were bald. After the leveling coils, my alignment is horrible. The TTB is showing what it can do...\'''O''/. Obviously I can't drive it that much with it like that because it will only wear down my brand new tires. I took it to ford for an alignment this morning only to be called back with the worse news yet. They claim the ball joints and upper control arms are bad on both side. Repairs are $1200 dollars. Give me a break. Thats insane! I don't have that kind of money. I told them to leave it the way it is. I am going to try to take it somewhere else. Or maybe try to do it on my own. How hard is the job?

Oh yeah, and my MAF started acting up again yesterday. Seems like a result of the bigger tires. Everything seems to be crumbling.

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post #2 of 44 (permalink) Old 09-30-2008, 12:48 PM
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I hate to break it to ya, but your truck is 12 years old now. 12 years is a long time to go without some serious maintenance, and it's all catching up to you at the same time. The ball joints are not tough if you have the right equipment, and damn near impossible if you don't. Most small shops I've seen charge $500 or so for a ball joint job, but having said that, if they're tearing it that far down anyway you had might as well have them do the TTB pivot bushings as well at the same time.
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1. It is a given that the truck should have been aligned after the leveling coils. No brainer there.

2. Before you can fix that coolant leak you have to find out whats leaking. Pretty much anything that could leak minus head gaskets can be fixed in the driveway.

3. I want to know what Ford was calling an upper control arm and how the arm itself could go bad even if there was such a thing on these trucks. Balljoints and everthing from the differential out could be replaced in the driveway for probably $500 or less. And you end up with a fully rebuilt front end, minus the differential itself.

Get a plan together and go for it. Times like these are what made me get another, newer truck. I was pretty much making a truck payment every month putting stuff into the 92. It was never ending. Now that it is not a DD anymore, some of those things can be put on hold yet the truck is still very much driveable when I need it.

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They claim the ball joints and upper control arms are bad on both side. Repairs are $1200 dollars.
UM..............yea ok

but like dave said. it is 12 years old so exspect things to break.
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kinda normal. Put on some junk 33s on the front and drive it. Do an "eye ball it" alignment.
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Since when do bronco's have upper control arms.

The ball jonts are a bitch if you do not have the right tools, and an alignment will probably cost about 300 bucks with the ball joint adjuster.


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The ball jonts are a bitch if you do not have the right tools, and an alignment will probably cost about 300 bucks with the ball joint adjuster.
A what?

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A what?
camber kit.... maybe thats what hes talking about
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You can rent the ball joint press from the parts store for free. You'll need a spindle nut socket for your hubs ($20) and a snap ring pliers set. Everything else is basic hand tools and patience. It's about a 4-5 hour job for the first side ball joint and about an hour for the other side. While you are in there you can replace the camber bushings that are causing your \--o-/ problem with a set of 2.75 degree adjustable available at Napa since the camber bushing has to come out to replace the ball joint. Then you just take it in for a routine (as TTB can be) alignment.

Water pumps are like $30. It's not likely the head gasket unless you severely overheated it. I don't fall for the "I can't afford it" line. I know the feeling you are having, but it is an old vehicle so you have to be willing to get in there and turn a wrench.
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post #11 of 44 (permalink) Old 09-30-2008, 01:32 PM Thread Starter
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1. It is a given that the truck should have been aligned after the leveling coils. No brainer there.

2. Before you can fix that coolant leak you have to find out whats leaking. Pretty much anything that could leak minus head gaskets can be fixed in the driveway.

3. I want to know what Ford was calling an upper control arm and how the arm itself could go bad even if there was such a thing on these trucks. Balljoints and everthing from the differential out could be replaced in the driveway for probably $500 or less. And you end up with a fully rebuilt front end, minus the differential itself.

Get a plan together and go for it. Times like these are what made me get another, newer truck. I was pretty much making a truck payment every month putting stuff into the 92. It was never ending. Now that it is not a DD anymore, some of those things can be put on hold yet the truck is still very much driveable when I need it.
Yeah, I understand that the alignment needed to be done. That isn't a surprise. The surprise was expecting a 50 dollar bill and getting a call back saying it is going to cost 1200 before they can even come close to aligning it. Kinda a shitty thing to hear when you're broke and don't want to ruin your new tires. haha.

I wish I could go out and get a new DD so I could tear into my Bronco daily...and not have to worry about getting it back together before the next day. I wouldn't have any problems with repairs then. I graduate college in 8 months, so hopefully I will pick something up for a DD then.

I just talked to the guy from Ford on the phone briefly between my classes. I am going in around 12:30 to get the whole story and see what they mean. I will update with exactly what is wrong soon.

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Oh, also I don't plan on spending that kinda money to get it done. I will attempt to do it on my own, and hopefully succeed.

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I hate to break it to you, but thats the way it goes. I have experience this myself and the maintenance always comes up after the modifications. Waterpumps, ball joints, anything on the truck besides engine work is pretty easy. Get a friend (someone semi-knowledgeable), some info from FSB, and the right tools; and you can have anything done. I took a weekend in May to do the ball joints by myself in my driveway. I had a basic set of Craftman hand tools, a D44 socket, torque wrench, and a rented BJ press. Its the labor that kills, I spent $330 for 4 BJs, all new TRE's, draglink, and an alignment. It was time consuming, but nowhere near impossible.


Keep your head up man. Your engine probably just needs a tune up. Do the sixlitre and you should be good to go. Bigger tires aren't going to give you MAF problems.



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Yeah, I enjoy getting in and working on my truck. Its a great feeling knowing you did it and you are capable of doing it yourself.

I will get everything fixed eventually, it will just take some time. Thanks for the info. I think I am going to try to replace the ball joints and put some adjustable bushings on there this Sunday.

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Im going to go through my bank accounts and add up what I have spent in parts and maintanence and compair it to what I bought it for

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you shouldnt be complaining really, on my 84 I had to redo the entire ignition system,tires and brakes,new carb and fuel pump, new belts and hoses,all the fluids,alignments,Steering wheel coloum had to be rebuilt,had to get new shocks,new front wheel bearings,new tie rod ends and radius arm bushings. I had around 2500 just in parts(i do all my own work) before i could drive it a mile down the road.

Now im doing an EFI swap, thats atleast 1500 right there. Its all relative though. its worth it to me.

If you dont like doing maintence be glad you bought the newest year you could, you would have sold my 84 before ever getting it on the road.
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I would love to be working on my broncos, but i just don't have time right now. Broncos NEVER had "upper control arms" I think you're gettin' jacked here.

I tried sniffing coke, but the ice cubes kept getting stuck in my nose.
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It's about a 4-5 hour job for the first side ball joint and about an hour for the other side.

been there done that.

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Yeah, I enjoy getting in and working on my truck. Its a great feeling knowing you did it and you are capable of doing it yourself.

I will get everything fixed eventually, it will just take some time. Thanks for the info. I think I am going to try to replace the ball joints and put some adjustable bushings on there this Sunday.
This is the kit I will end up ordering when I rebuild the axle thats going in the 92'. It would be hard to buy all the parts seperatly for less, and appearantly the kit comes with grande joints now.

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I would love to be working on my broncos, but i just don't have time right now. Broncos NEVER had "upper control arms" I think you're gettin' jacked here.
Don't jump the gun. I promise the dealer works on more newer vehicles than Broncos. Could just be misnomering the radius arm for a control arm. And yes, a spent RA bushing with screw up alignment.

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